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That's what people thought with The End Times as well.

Right up until the rocks fell, everyone died, and the world blew up.


Now I'm not saying that necessarily will happen with 40k. It is GW's cornerstone line of product, after all. I'm just saying, the broad parallels there are hilarious for how much people go all "This isn't 40k End Times."

For all we know the GW Studio is rolling their eyes going "Duh, you fething morons, it's not 'The End Times'. It's 'The Gathering Storm'! Totally different. And we're sure you guys will be blown away by what comes after. We've got this great lineup of content that will rock the setting to its very foundations! And it shall be called... 'The Time of Ending'!"

tin foil is aisle 7. Buy stock while you can. People will always be able to draw parallels because they want to see them. Wizard's first rule...

So, back to gathering storm Part II, this elf chick is pretty hot!

Sothalor wrote:
That's what people thought with The End Times as well.

Right up until the rocks fell, everyone died, and the world blew up.


Now I'm not saying that necessarily will happen with 40k. It is GW's cornerstone line of product, after all. I'm just saying, the broad parallels there are hilarious for how much people go all "This isn't 40k End Times."

For all we know the GW Studio is rolling their eyes going "Duh, you fething morons, it's not 'The End Times'. It's 'The Gathering Storm'! Totally different. And we're sure you guys will be blown away by what comes after. We've got this great lineup of content that will rock the setting to its very foundations! And it shall be called... 'The Time of Ending'!"

Which is the name of the current Imperial Era since the 5th edition days and even refered from time to time as such since Codex Necrons from 3rd edition.

Also, Kronk, beware. I heard she's an attention junkie: she sucked the life of his previous partner.

Daddy issues, you say?

So, will she have psychic powers? Or be anti-psycher?

Do we know, yet?

Emperor F`ing Christ! Seriously, why is there no real leaks on the formations and the rules yet? This is killing me.

Faeit has some real leaks right now, including pictures.

Most of what was in the glossary has been confirmed to be correct. Looks like Strength from Death and being able to generate psychics from the Revenant discipline are the main benefits from being Ynnari.

New large detachment is essentially a CAD in unit choices, but allowed from all three eldar codices. Coven units can't be chosen, but pretty much everything else is able to be played.

Unsure if you can take just a normal CAD as ynnari though, part of that text appears to be missing.

Is wraith stuff allowed? Seems like that'd go againt Ynnead's wishes.

Beastmasters confirmed!

Behold, sacrificial lambs! The ultimate in cheap Soulburst fuel!

 MasterSlowPoke wrote:
Is wraith stuff allowed? Seems like that'd go againt Ynnead's wishes.

uh god - boosted Wraith Knights and upgraded Jetbikes

Sounds like fun?

Tyel wrote:

 DarknessEternal wrote:

the_scotsman wrote:

 DarknessEternal wrote:

Oooh, 4 attacks at strength 4, that'll really gut things.

That's a colossal waste of points.

You mean 6 attacks at S4 AP2 with shred?

Only reason I mention Jain Zar is her ability to basically duel any beefy character in the game and win,

No, I mean 4. Once per combat she'll have 5 if she charges, other than that it's 4.

Also, she couldn't kill the characters that matter even if they were unarmed. 4 Str 4 Attacks with Shred will never do any damage to Iron Hands Bikemaster. He'll kill her unarmed.

Unless I am missing something I don't see how that works. Jain Zar will do about 0.5 wounds per turn vs your Bikemaster. Offset by IWND she takes a while to kill him but you would expect her to get there over 8-9 combat phases.

By contrast the Bikemaster has no chance of killing Jain Zar. He loses his weapon and is on -5 WS. So hitting on 5s, wounding on 4s and Zar has a 2+ armour save. So on average your Bikemaster is doing 1/9 wounds per turn. You have a good chance of not doing a wound in a combat that lasts nearly an entire game never mind killing her.

If you take away the Fist or Hammer, he still has the Lightning Claw. You also forget about the improved FNP.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

Tyel wrote:

 DarknessEternal wrote:

the_scotsman wrote:

 DarknessEternal wrote:

Oooh, 4 attacks at strength 4, that'll really gut things.

That's a colossal waste of points.

You mean 6 attacks at S4 AP2 with shred?

Only reason I mention Jain Zar is her ability to basically duel any beefy character in the game and win,

No, I mean 4. Once per combat she'll have 5 if she charges, other than that it's 4.

Also, she couldn't kill the characters that matter even if they were unarmed. 4 Str 4 Attacks with Shred will never do any damage to Iron Hands Bikemaster. He'll kill her unarmed.

Unless I am missing something I don't see how that works. Jain Zar will do about 0.5 wounds per turn vs your Bikemaster. Offset by IWND she takes a while to kill him but you would expect her to get there over 8-9 combat phases.

By contrast the Bikemaster has no chance of killing Jain Zar. He loses his weapon and is on -5 WS. So hitting on 5s, wounding on 4s and Zar has a 2+ armour save. So on average your Bikemaster is doing 1/9 wounds per turn. You have a good chance of not doing a wound in a combat that lasts nearly an entire game never mind killing her.

If you take away the Fist or Hammer, he still has the Lightning Claw. You also forget about the improved FNP.

Which she can take away too.

This is an awesome buff to Harlequins. You can still take the Quin formations in the Reborn warhost for the benefits - but also get Soulburst actions.

 MasterSlowPoke wrote:
Is wraith stuff allowed? Seems like that'd go againt Ynnead's wishes.

The only units that you CANNOT take are:

CWE:

Avatar of Khaine

DE:

Haemounculus
Urien
Drazhar
Mandrakes
Wracks
Grotesques
Talos
Cronos

Harlqueens:

None

And all the formations from the 3 codices are in too!

EDIT: Reliques from the 3 codices can still be taken in addition to the Ynnari ones

The wording also makes it clear that the Strength From Death rule (the one granting soulburst actions) is given to ALL Ynnari faction units, not just the ones losing existing army-wide rules like Power From Pain and Battle Focus.

That means that Wraith units, including Wraithknights, are getting a pure power boost by going Ynnari.

Another interesting note: While we haven't seen the Avatar's statline yet, the list of units you can take confirms that it is a Lord of War, and so is theoretically competing with Wraithknights for the slot.

Edit: I was wrong, we do get to see the Yncarne's statline.

9/7/6/6/5/10/6/10/3+, MC
Daemon, Deepstrike, Eternal Warrior, Fleet, PE (Daemons of Slaanesh), Psy ML3, SfD

Avatar of Ynnead: Whenever Aeldari model killed within 7", on 3+, Yncarne regains a lost wound
Inevitable Death: must be deployed by Deepstrike, can deepstrike once any unit is destroyed, placed as close as possible to destroyed unit but at least 1" away from enemies, and can't charge on that turn.
Ynnead Stirs: 12" bubble of Fearless and FnP bubble.

Yowza.

Lord Kragan wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

Tyel wrote:

 DarknessEternal wrote:

the_scotsman wrote:

 DarknessEternal wrote:

Oooh, 4 attacks at strength 4, that'll really gut things.

That's a colossal waste of points.

You mean 6 attacks at S4 AP2 with shred?

Only reason I mention Jain Zar is her ability to basically duel any beefy character in the game and win,

No, I mean 4. Once per combat she'll have 5 if she charges, other than that it's 4.

Also, she couldn't kill the characters that matter even if they were unarmed. 4 Str 4 Attacks with Shred will never do any damage to Iron Hands Bikemaster. He'll kill her unarmed.

Unless I am missing something I don't see how that works. Jain Zar will do about 0.5 wounds per turn vs your Bikemaster. Offset by IWND she takes a while to kill him but you would expect her to get there over 8-9 combat phases.

By contrast the Bikemaster has no chance of killing Jain Zar. He loses his weapon and is on -5 WS. So hitting on 5s, wounding on 4s and Zar has a 2+ armour save. So on average your Bikemaster is doing 1/9 wounds per turn. You have a good chance of not doing a wound in a combat that lasts nearly an entire game never mind killing her.

If you take away the Fist or Hammer, he still has the Lightning Claw. You also forget about the improved FNP.

Which she can take away too.

She gets to take away one weapon. Not both.

Check the natfka post again. Its there. its a ws9 bs7 Avatar statline, with eternal warrior. We also have points for the characters (if you downloaded the images, they're in the name)
Visarch - 150
Yvraine - 200
Yncarne - 275

Exactly what the health of the game needed, more Eldar buffs. Ugh

 rollawaythestone wrote:
This is an awesome buff to Harlequins. You can still take the Quin formations in the Reborn warhost for the benefits - but also get Soulburst actions.

Blitz and Soulburst, anyone?

I, for one, relish the opportunity to crash my 12 attack blender into two units in the same assault phase.

 Robin5t wrote:

 rollawaythestone wrote:
This is an awesome buff to Harlequins. You can still take the Quin formations in the Reborn warhost for the benefits - but also get Soulburst actions.

Blitz and Soulburst, anyone?

I, for one, relish the opportunity to crash my 12 attack blender into two units in the same assault phase.

Sadly that wont work. If you soulburst-charge into another combat, the combat starts after the initative step that triggered the soulburst

So Ulthwe Strike Force gives eldar a real null deploy option with a chance to come in turn 1 from deepstrike without scatter. Not sure what black guardian units have that make them elite, the old 3ed version just had BS/WS4 which is standard now.

 WrentheFaceless wrote:
Exactly what the health of the game needed, more Eldar buffs. Ugh

Yeah, mixed feelings about this. Excited to get new buffs to the Harlequins, but Eldar definitely don't need to be stronger.

 winterman wrote:
So Ulthwe Strike Force gives eldar a real null deploy option with a chance to come in turn 1 from deepstrike without scatter. Not sure what black guardian units have that make them elite, the old 3ed version just had BS/WS4 which is standard now.

Probaly BS 5 WS 5 just to show how much superior Guardians are over say Wyches

Likely with a pts drop.

 nintura wrote:
tin foil is aisle 7. Buy stock while you can. People will always be able to draw parallels because they want to see them. Wizard's first rule...

Can see them way over there with the big blinders corner display blocking your line of sight? If you don't want people to further discuss the obvious parallels between the Time of Ending and the End Times then don't chime in just to flame bait them while they're doing it.

Is there a link to the pictures on display?

thanks

Here you go - pictures to some of the Fracture of Biel-tan leaks

This is the original source:

http://imgur.com/gallery/ovnIQ

I'm looking a the warlord traits with the Visarch in mind and I would say that they are all good for him

 winterman wrote:
So Ulthwe Strike Force gives eldar a real null deploy option with a chance to come in turn 1 from deepstrike without scatter. Not sure what black guardian units have that make them elite, the old 3ed version just had BS/WS4 which is standard now.

So the one thing that Scatterbikes feared (Alpha strikes) can basically be circumvented at the cost of ObSec. Just take 4 "Black Guardian" Scatterbike units in this formation and reserve them to come in Turn 1 wherever you need them and pew-pew

Between that sword and that stat-line, the Yncarne looks like the sort of critter that basically nothing survives a turn in base contact with.

And some awesome artifact choices for the Solitaire too!

Hungering Blade gives him Fleshbane? Hells yes.
The Lost Shroud giving IWND and FNP? Hells yes!