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They are not. When testing, vanguards don't know what units will or will not be released during the 1st 2 phases of testing. They are used with the same frecuency during testing.
They are not. When testing, vanguards don't know what units will or will not be released during the 1st 2 phases of testing. They are used with the same frecuency during testing.
That is strangely at odds with the words directly from the vanguards who do playtesting who completely admit that they test the unreleased units less than the released/soon-to-be released units and tell the players that rules will always be looked at more closely when models are closer to release. There are playtesting vanguards who say with some surety that certain units (ex: Tontorr, Thunder Riders) will be nerfed before they are released because they are currently too powerful for their points.
They are not. When testing, vanguards don't know what units will or will not be released during the 1st 2 phases of testing. They are used with the same frecuency during testing.
That is strangely at odds with the words directly from the vanguards who do playtesting
I am a vanguard that does playtesting.
Para Bellum doesn't tell us what to and what not to playtest.
There is a miscommunication happening here. I'm not saying that they do.
I am saying that by the admission of the seeming majority of vanguards who playtest, they playtest unreleased models LESS THAN released models, because whenever this question comes up in the official discord, multiple vanguards to chime in and say this.
And the official PB line seems to be that units will be looked at closer (assuming the best for PB+playtest team here, this likely means "playtested more" rather than literally just looking at them) when they are near release, which that alone implies that they are playtested less than units that are released.
I apologize if I cannot make what I am saying make sense to you, and to prevent clogging up the N&R thread with drama, this will be my last post on the subject.
Rihgu wrote: they playtest unreleased models LESS THAN released models
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Playtesting happens before *anything* releases. What happens is that, after release, things get fine tuned (after all, things escape testing). Unreleased things don't get used in tourneys, for the most part, so they don't get post playtesting fine-tuning.
I'd imagine released units are tested more than unreleased ones because you can't test units in isolation, you've got to put them in armies made up of already released models,
so every test battle you have you're playing far more released models than unreleased ones (even if it's the unreleased ones you're more interested in),
Well, welcome to 2022. Not that i am happy about that one hike.
Automatically Appended Next Post: For the record, the ice jotnar and the divinity have the same price tag, as these are meant to be 'premium' sculpts for rare units, FWIW.
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Yeah. I was NOT happy with the price tag on my Hellbringer, the Apex & Seanar have solid sculpts and good detail so there's an element of 'get what you pay for' there. But the Drake is riddled with the sorts of rough edges common to their early sculpts.
Yea, same here. The First Blood rewrite seemed very, very clean compared to TLAOK so it does give me an extreme amount of hope for TLAOK 2.0... when their small dev team gets the bandwidth to actually do that...
FB2 is an improvement but it is still below the standard IMO. They can and should do better, especially with a community quite happy to do the work for free.
Fairly solid, IMHO. Funny that the linebreaker FAQ is exactly at odds with what Rhys has been saying on discord for the past few months.
Biotic Renewal nerfed to be single target instead of AoE.
Everything else seems to be wording cleanup/explanation, to me.
Reinforcement line rules just got messier by adding yet another feature to a completely unexplained rule. The fact that nowhere does it explain how pushback works but it keeps referring to it is an odd thing I will continue to pester the devs about but it really seems like it will never be fixed.
Dragonslayers, Vanguard Clone Infiltrators, and Biomancers nerfed. Sea Jotnars got an interesting change to be able to volley for free, while engaged, in addition to their 2 regular actions, which does bring some parity to the Ice Jotnar.
Hm. Underwhelming to me, what I see in the exclusives is the diorama aspect and that floors more like a nice scenic base. Compared to the likes of Eruption and at the price tag it will come with... meh.
I'm almost certain this is meant to be the Regalia of the Dominion (Tactical Retinue). It comes with a special Strategos - the only character that has Regalia/Tactical as "Available" instead of "Restricted", and the end of the product description even calls it out by name.
Buried in the same tomb, Alexius and his Companions arose bedecked in the full Regalia of the Dominion, ready to enforce their will on a world gone mad.
That said, it could easily be interpreted as a mix of Combat/Regalia/Arcane, so overall a very versatile set of models for the faction.
