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Do you remember thisnewscaster? Because I do and... wait... hmmm, too many extra jokes inferred by the picture... oh well.
Yes, the news that told it like it was, and kicked ass along the way... wait... we do have John Stewart, who is a comedian and, oh crap.
Wait... one more edit... just look like that far up the page... yep, that is what the media does not have now... yeah, that far, you know what I freaking mean .
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Wrexasaur wrote:If sebster moved to the U.S. he could get a career and a lifetime of substantial female... erm... wait... yeah, he would be happy, chicks dig the Aussie accent, it reminds them of turtles or something .
Huh, I do sound like a turtle. I'd never noticed.
“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
....I never noticed. And now a sexy sexy turtle...
WAIT... seriously... just watch the clip, OKAY!!! Geez, like it is a kidney or something with the gafilta-fish and the matzoh balls... I dunno even what to think about the thing.
"Note"
P.M. me if I am just providing too much PWNage too this forum... yeah... with the stuff, and the funny.... eat burgers and feedom friesn... hah freedom friends... wait... forgot the funny... and added the period. See I did it. Yay. And another one.
Wait... This is not an attack... it is a funny, like a forgotten balloon from France or something, perhaps... and maybe too... Seriously J.K. Sebster... did you see the periods... that is serious business.
Yes I am joking. With a joke... and stuff, so you can laugh for things, and the other places with the inabilitya to laugh with the funny.
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Wrexasaur wrote:"Note"
P.M. me if I am just providing too much PWNage too this forum... yeah... with the stuff, and the funny.... eat burgers and feedom friesn... hah freedom friends... wait... forgot the funny... and added the period. See I did it. Yay. And another one.
I would, but I haven't had the slightest idea what you've been talking about today
“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
Anuvver fing - when they do sumfing, they try to make it look like somfink else to confuse everybody. When one of them wants to lord it over the uvvers, 'e says "I'm very speshul so'z you gotta worship me", or "I know summink wot you lot don't know, so yer better lissen good". Da funny fing is, arf of 'em believe it and da over arf don't, so 'e 'as to hit 'em all anyway or run fer it.
Wrexasaur wrote:"Note"
P.M. me if I am just providing too much PWNage too this forum... yeah... with the stuff, and the funny.... eat burgers and feedom friesn... hah freedom friends... wait... forgot the funny... and added the period. See I did it. Yay. And another one.
I would, but I haven't had the slightest idea what you've been talking about today
I would hesitate to disagree with you on this one... but we all need some retrospect hours later on the amount of Sake we consume... I apologize . Seriously, sorry if I messed with you, I meant no harm.
Orkeosaurus wrote:+1 poast
+2 post technically... but the economics of that one are quite deep...
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My point was that the military needs more spending so they are going to focus on it. The reps in my area are military friendly because most of the population is comprised of military members or civil service members.
You understand that's basically the definition of porkbarrelling, and porkbarrelling is thought of as a bad thing?
Unless you are trying to do things that benefit the entire military. Pork barreling would be like having a bridge built in your district to boost the economy. Its incredibly hard to pork barrel with military spending unless you decided to have a military base built in your district because you need the extra funds. If you pass legislation for extra body armor or such, then its not really pork barreling.
Now someone said that morality caves to reality... WHat if the money for this new healthcare thing takes a long time to reach the doctors, especially the private practice ones? Now the morality would cause the doctors to see them anyways, but in "reality" they wouldn't take them because they aren't getting paid and the only "free" care they receive is emergency care. So the government HAS to be on the ball when it comes to paychecks, and it really isn't in some cases.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Although this healthcare thing isn't employing doctors, its buying certificates saying that they are now insured and that money is available for certain care that's expensive for them to afford.
And you can't say that most businesses support this plan, even when it comes to medical associations saying that they support this plan, many of the doctors in said associations are also opposed.
@ Wrex, many saw him for the color of his skin, and many put their votes in on that factor only. This however was done by pro and anti obama people.
He was also young and many theorised that McCain would die in office, although my argument was "Yeah and Kennedy was pretty young as well.".
I just hope he isn't assassinated, that would be a serious gak-storm.
Ooooh, what would happen if this bill is or isn't passed? Not in terms of healthcare, but the population's response.
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halonachos wrote:
Now someone said that morality caves to reality... WHat if the money for this new healthcare thing takes a long time to reach the doctors, especially the private practice ones? Now the morality would cause the doctors to see them anyways, but in "reality" they wouldn't take them because they aren't getting paid and the only "free" care they receive is emergency care. So the government HAS to be on the ball when it comes to paychecks, and it really isn't in some cases.
Why would morality force doctors to see patients? Most private practices, in my experience anyway, don't render service without the provision of insurance as of right now.
Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh.
Hippocratic oath, although they won't give preventative care they promise to give emergency care. Which is why the money makes them give preventative care.
halonachos wrote:Hippocratic oath, although they won't give preventative care they promise to give emergency care. Which is why the money makes them give preventative care.
The Hippocratic oath isn't really a singular thing. There are several versions; including some moderns ones which include a mandate for preventative care. That said, I've never seen any version of it which specifically mandates emergency care. Its often assumed that 'first, do no harm' represents such a mandate, and it can be interpreted that way, but it doesn't have to be.
The reality is that doctors are most often forced to see patients due to the administrative ER policies which keep public funds coming into hospitals. They don't get paid any more, or less, to do so. Now, if you have public insurance, a lot of those people piling into ERs can suddenly see private physicians who can treat them with the promise of payment. Just like they treat people with private insurance.
Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh.
I doubt that. Why would the government make sure that those on the public option will receive care if they don't want to do good, because obviously in the real world there is no morality and no good?
They lose money by paying and get nothing in return so why are they doing this?
halonachos wrote:I doubt that. Why would the government make sure that those on the public option will receive care if they don't want to do good, because obviously in the real world there is no morality and no good?
They lose money by paying and get nothing in return so why are they doing this?
I didn't say that morality doesn't exist. I said that reality trumps morality, which is another way of saying morality will fall prey to circumstance. In this particular instance a well run program is both moral, and useful for staying power. Morality and circumstance are in agreement, and all is right with the world.
Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh.
englhockey wrote:NOT EVEN A USA citizen how is he president again?
My taxes went up he said that wouldn't happen
cant wait to see people hate him more than bush...
Sounds like a sensationalist to me. Prove that he isn't a US citizen.
And remember that your country is in a recession (unlike mine, whee!), so I suppose tax increases would occurr. Think for a moment; would you be any better off with the Republicans in power right now?
People are like dice, a certain Frenchman said that. You throw yourself in the direction of your own choosing. People are free because they can do that. Everyone's circumstances are different, but no matter how small the choice, at the very least, you can throw yourself. It's not chance or fate. It's the choice you made.
Obama could never, ever hope to live up to the hype.
He will do well but looking back in 20, 30 years people will see it as a chance for change that fizzled under the expectations, and sent the nation broke.
Whilst in 20-30 years time Bush will be seen as an ass kicker who fought back and took the battle to the enemy, whilst sending the nation broke.
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Waaagh_Gonads wrote:Obama could never, ever hope to live up to the hype.
He will do well but looking back in 20, 30 years people will see it as a chance for change that fizzled under the expectations, and sent the nation broke.
Whilst in 20-30 years time Bush will be seen as an ass kicker who fought back and took the battle to the enemy, whilst sending the nation broke.
The problem with this is that if we actually go further into debt instead of starting to fix this problem the U.S. is as good as finished in 20 years, let alone looking back and saying hello. Obama either delivers something or we pay the price, it is simple as that. We need serious change, and if he decides to let the Republicans push him around along with the Democratic majority we will never see this reform take place.
The US is in no danger of death. You don't just abjurate the kind of dominance we possess. There will be changes for sure, but they will not sound some form of national death knell.
Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh.
Cheese Elemental wrote:Sounds like a sensationalist to me. Prove that he isn't a US citizen.
You can't, NObama will send the Death Panels after you.
Anuvver fing - when they do sumfing, they try to make it look like somfink else to confuse everybody. When one of them wants to lord it over the uvvers, 'e says "I'm very speshul so'z you gotta worship me", or "I know summink wot you lot don't know, so yer better lissen good". Da funny fing is, arf of 'em believe it and da over arf don't, so 'e 'as to hit 'em all anyway or run fer it.
The worst that is likely to happen to the USA is that you will lose your position of dominance and will need to co-operate with other nations on international issues.
I think that point has practically arrived when you consider that the USA could have handled the Iraq and Afghan wars without the British, but you cannot handle any further conflicts which might arise in Korea or Iran.
Borrowing and running a national debt is perfectly acceptable economics when the money is used for essential defence or to build up productive infrastructure such as transportation systems. Then in the good times the debt can be paid back.
The USA's debt problem is that the money has been borrowed artificially cheaply, thanks to the USD's status as world reserve currency (now waning) and it has largely been spent on consumer fripperies such as inflated housing costs.
Nonetheless the USA is a huge nation with colossal resources of many types and should be able to get through the difficult times. It may require social changes.
Does anyone have any information on this? I would like to know the prospects of the U.S. I have never been the wild west John Wayne type. Well... maybe if I get to have a funny cigar and a stick of dynamite .
If someone could lay out what they see for the future of the U.S. given the outcomes of this reform, I would appreciate that as well.
Use this for reference. Or not... whatever you feel like really. Wait wait wait.... where the hell did Ron Paul come from .
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halonachos wrote:I doubt that. Why would the government make sure that those on the public option will receive care if they don't want to do good, because obviously in the real world there is no morality and no good?
They lose money by paying and get nothing in return so why are they doing this?
I didn't say that morality doesn't exist. I said that reality trumps morality, which is another way of saying morality will fall prey to circumstance. In this particular instance a well run program is both moral, and useful for staying power. Morality and circumstance are in agreement, and all is right with the world.
But what kind of moral "good" does it do. There's qualitative and quantitative moral good. Sure it helps out 1/6 of the nation at the the expense of 5/6 the nation, so its not quantitative good or else it would help out 5/6 of the nation at the expense of 1/6 the nation. Surely it must be qualitative good, but these people are strangers for the most part and the money should be spent to help family or friends, so guess it isn't qualitative either.
Don't put yourself in the same boat of ignorance as those who said that about bush. He's your president but you didn't vote for him because you dislike/hate the guy or his politics.
Obama is our president but he sucks at the job and we want a new one.
You can respect the office, irrespective of your view of the person holding it at the time.
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halonachos wrote:Don't put yourself in the same boat of ignorance as those who said that about bush. He's your president but you didn't vote for him because you dislike/hate the guy or his politics.
Obama is our president but he sucks at the job and we want a new one.
WTH are you talking about?
If he wasn't even born in America - how can he qualify as a Natural-Born Citizen?
JohnHwangDD wrote:If he wasn't even born in America - how can he qualify as a Natural-Born Citizen?
Seriously? No, seriously?
“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
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