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What is Barack Obama actually like? It's hard to get an impression of him across the pond because there isn't much media coverage. Is he actually the messiah-like person how he was portrayed in the early days, or is he all show and no go?

Just curious.

Frazzled wrote:

Is there anyone around who can translate Frazzledspeak?

translation: Methinks this thread will take a multi G dive quickly if there's any discussion.

Yeh if you haven't already noticed there is a strong republican majority amongst the american users on this site.

This thread will go the same way as all the gun-law, climate change and oh, countless other threads about the current US administration. Which I myself have learnt not to get involved in. This one will be no different.

NO you're wrong!

Others would argue the OT is lefty leftinkerton (TM).

WHAT HAVE I DONE??!

Frazzled wrote:NO you're wrong!

Others would argue the OT is lefty leftinkerton (TM).

Oh really? Maybe Mr Righty Right just speaks too loud then.

That Righty McRighterton to you!

Ok. I suppose Mr Right is too ironic.

I think he's a good man doing what he thinks is best. Sometimes I agree with him and sometimes I don't. This is true of most Presidents though. He isn't a demon or a savior or really even a paradigm changer. He is a man and thus subject to the flaws and virtues of us all. Only he gets 24 hour news coverage and I do not, which is a shame really.

Why don't we save the hassles and headaches and lock this now?

And... oh yeah... he is great... though I do question the fact he drinks Bud Light. Something wrong with that.

What do I think?

A distinct improvement on his predecessor and decidedly preferable to a certain 'maverick' who might have got in had her elderly running mate been taken ill...

He has the least desierabel job ever, and he had to clean up the mess that monkey who where in charge before made. Give the man a year to prove himself althoue I hope he fails HARD

Anshal: Give the man a year to prove himself althoue I hope he fails HARD

Why do you wish him to fail?

He's a politician. As such, I think he should be punched in the face. But that's just me.

I dont give Aun O' much thought, a President is one man in the policy machine after all. From an outsiders perspective i prefer a panoramic outlook on US politics rather than the personality stuff.

But one thing that caught my attantion is the recent advertising using association techniques between Obama and Hitler. One of the Feurer saying he supports obamas new policy, the other of Obama with a square moustache and the caption 'I've Changed'.

Now what 'Naziism' is Obama up to? A new invasion, detentions, harassment of minorities. No, he was caught setting up healthcare reforms.

Now if his detractors accused him of Communism and tried to compare him to Lenin I could more or less get the connection and would be 'good' propoganda; but subsidised health care being associated with Nazism doesnt wash.

It is ironic that the groups behind the posters are solidly right wing and in many cases were possibly all for Iraq and War on Terror. And leaving the justifications of such policies aside you can see a valid propoganda connection between the Bush administration and Nazi Germany on some level. So this is doubly hypocritical allowing for Obamas stated opinions on his prcedecessors military policies for him to be considered morally suspect in a 'Nazi' way.

Golden Eyed Scout wrote:He's a politician. As such, I think he should be punched in the face. But that's just me.

Now here is a youngin who already has seen clear to the appropriate policy!


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Orlanth wrote:I dont give Aun O' much thought, a President is one man in the policy machine after all. From an outsiders perspective i prefer a panoramic outlook on US politics rather than the personality stuff.

But one thing that caught my attantion is the recent advertising using association techniques between Obama and Hitler. One of the Feurer saying he supports this policy, the other of Obama with a square moustache and the caption 'I've Changed'.

Now what 'Naziism is Obama up to? a new invasion, detentions, horrid cruelty. No, but for setting up healthcare reforms.

Now if his detractors accused him of Communism and tried to compare him to Lenin I could more or less get the connection and would be 'good' propoganda; but subsidised health care being associated with Nazism doesntv wash.

ity is ironic that the grouops behind the posters are solidly right wing and in many cases were all for Iraq and War on Terror. And leaving the justifications of such policies aside you can see a valid propoganda connection between the Bush administration and Nazi germany on some level. So this is doubly hypocritical allowing for Obamas stated opinions on those policies that could be considered morally suspect in a 'Nazi' way.

Um, no most are going the socialist comparison route. I'm not sure where you're getting the Nazi thing.

Frazzled wrote:
Um, no most are going the socialist comparison route. I'm not sure where you're getting the Nazi thing.

Uk press showing posters made by some hard right lobbyists against Obamas health reforms. let me see if I can find a link to an online article....


EDIT for links:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203863204574346530636332384.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
"NewsBusters.org, a Web site of the conservative Media Research Center, notes that CNN, NBC and MSNBC have all shown "a poster of President Obama--on whose face a Hitler mustache has been Photo Shopped--bearing the caption ‘I've Changed.' " to illustrate the supposed extremism of ObamaCare critics:"


http://newsbusters.org/blogs/seton-motley/2009/08/12/nbc-cnn-msnbc-all-assign-communist-larouches-obama-hitler-poster-conse
This covers the whole story.

Here, let me get out my "lets blame bush for everything" easy button...

At least bush never bent over and kissed any foreign leaders asses and said America was wrong in regards to foreign policy aimed their way.

We'll see how much everyone loves Obama once he starts dipping into you paychecks to distribute your wealth to the people who are just too damn lazy to work.

We'll also see how much everyone loves him when all of the professionals in America leave or quit their practices because he is dictating what they can and cannot get paid.

I found it. thats Lyndon Larouche's kookjob group. They do that with every President. These are the guys that scare the aluminum hat crowd. Its interesting that the media picks up on it for them but not when it was done to Bush, Bush, Reagan, etc.

http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_treatment/archive/2009/08/12/who-s-behind-that-obama-as-hiltler-sign-lyndon-larouche.aspx

Orlanth wrote:

Frazzled wrote:
Um, no most are going the socialist comparison route. I'm not sure where you're getting the Nazi thing.

Uk press showing posters made by some hard right lobbyists against Obamas health reforms. let me see if I can find a link to an online article....

I have seen them as well. They aren't the most common but they are out there. [The Protestors] haven't heard of Goodwin's Law obliviously. Of course it doesn't really mean much anymore since in my lifetime I've heard the following referred to as Nazi's: Bill Clinton, Bush I, Hillary Clinton, Bush II, and Obama. Now I may not be an expert on National Socialism but I am pretty sure they can't all fit the definition.

usernamesareannoying wrote:Here, let me get out my "lets blame bush for everything" easy button...

At least bush never bent over and kissed any foreign leaders asses and said America was wrong in regards to foreign policy aimed their way.

We'll see how much everyone loves Obama once he starts dipping into you paychecks to distribute your wealth to the people who are just too damn lazy to work.

We'll also see how much everyone loves him when all of the professionals in America leave or quit their practices because he is dictating what they can and cannot get paid.

Start to? Check out his approval ratings against other Presidents. He's worse than everyone in many years but Clinton for the same time period. Thats change I can believe in!

Obama isn't like Hitler, he is literally worst than Hitler. He's like Hitlin, that's Hitler and Stalin combined.

No scratch that he's Stao Hitledong. That's Hitler, Stalin and Mao Zedong.

Wait scratch that, he's Stim Maong Hil, that's Hitler, Stalin, Mao Zedong and Kim Jong Il.

There 'opinions' and there's stuff like that. Ok, so you dont like Obama, how is he so er, evil?

What has he done in the last half year to get that level of bad rep in the US?

Orlanth wrote:There 'opinions' and there's stuff like that. Ok, so you dont like Obama, how is he so er, evil?

What has he done in the last half year to get that level of bad rep in the US?

Thats the moment the defandant is mistakenly put on the stand and blurts out "No thats the knife I used! er...uh..."
Door is now open.

Frazzled wrote:

usernamesareannoying wrote:Here, let me get out my "lets blame bush for everything" easy button...

At least bush never bent over and kissed any foreign leaders asses and said America was wrong in regards to foreign policy aimed their way.

We'll see how much everyone loves Obama once he starts dipping into you paychecks to distribute your wealth to the people who are just too damn lazy to work.

We'll also see how much everyone loves him when all of the professionals in America leave or quit their practices because he is dictating what they can and cannot get paid.

Start to? Check out his approval ratings against other Presidents. He's worse than everyone in many years but Clinton for the same time period. Thats change I can believe in!

i miss slick willy.
so he got a hummer off an intern, big deal. his only mistake over the other presidents that behaved just as badly was the fact that he got caught...

Have you not heard? Death Panels dude. Obama is the head of the Death Panels. He's going to Florida to kill all the old Jews because they're too old and they didn't vote for him.

The scariest thing about Obama so far is the fear mongering, hate that I have seen spew out of my beloved republican party. Quite frankly even though I initially agreed with Bush on Iraq, I gradually came to see that I was lied to about the reasons why we went in, I still supported Bush and wasn't embarassed about it the way I have been lately. Am I happy that Sadam Hussein is gone. YES, but am not happy about being lied to.

Anyway, I digress...there is a guy at my workplace that has a wall, full of propaganda where Obama's depicted as hitler this and that. This from a guy who you would not normally think is a radical. I wonder how much of this hate is racially motivated.

To the original question, I'm still wating to see what Obama's going to do. I wish him all the success in the world, the same way I did Clinton. I have to admit that I disliked Slick Willy, much more than I dislike Obama.

I like that he is trying to do something about healthcare, although I'm not sure at this point if his plan is all that good, because I don't think it's a full blown Nationalized health care system. It's more of a hybrid, which is why I think it will fail.

GG

I was amused that someone said Dr Hawking would have been left to die under the NHS if he was British, which is what Obama's health plan is going to do to America.