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Alpharius wrote:Does Amazon carry the DW Game Master's Kit too?

Sadly, my Amazon-fu is insufficient enough to locate it!

Weird, I can't find it anymore. It used to be available on both the US and CA sites. Probably out of stock since even the core rulebook is no longer showing up on Amazon CA.

It's likely Amazon is holding off on listing these until they can actually get some in stock, and I bet they're none too pleased about the books getting to them after other stores as well.

I bet they're even less impressed with the long string of cancellations they've received over the past 5 days.

Finally...

Amazon wrote:
Hello from Amazon.com.

We have received new release date information related to the order you placed on August 25 2010 (Order# whole bunch of numbers). The item(s) listed below will actually ship sooner than we originally expected based on the new release date:

Ross Watson "Warhammer 40K RPG: Deathwatch Core Rulebook (Warhammer RPG)"
Previous estimated arrival date: October 01 2010 - October 05 2010
New estimated arrival date: September 22 2010 - September 23 2010

Ah, so Amazon did get their act together. Big deal, mine's already on the way.

Take that Amazon Fulfilment Centre (no really - that's what they call their warehouses).

Just got notification that mine shipped today.

Anyone who has Deathwatch, can you jump to the section where it specifically mentions that Marines are always male and quote that entire paragraph for me.

Thanks!

Alpharius wrote:Does Amazon carry the DW Game Master's Kit too?

Sadly, my Amazon-fu is insufficient enough to locate it!

wayland games and leisure games have it.

If no-one has done this by the time I get home, I'll type it out for you as I don't have the book to hand today.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Anyone who has Deathwatch, can you jump to the section where it specifically mentions that Marines are always male and quote that entire paragraph for me.

Thanks!

If I tell you, youd just hate me for it.

I already hate you, so it's a wash.

Post the paragraph please.

I cant find it tho I did see it.

Gender & Appearance
Due to the special nature of the zygotes that make up a Space Marine's geneseed, all Space Marines are male.

That's all there is about males/females.

See Dee - that wasn't so hard, now was it? I'm turning the 'hate' setting up to 'loath', especially as I have to go, at bare minimum, another 60 hours without this book.

Oh, and thanks Vhalyar. Got a page number by any chance?

the adventure is against the clock in the core book.

H.B.M.C. wrote:See Dee - that wasn't so hard, now was it? I'm turning the 'hate' setting up to 'loath', especially as I have to go, at bare minimum, another 60 hours without this book.

Oh, and thanks Vhalyar. Got a page number by any chance?

Yup, page 28. The rest of the paragraph is about scars and hairstyles

Vhalyar wrote:The rest of the paragraph is about scars and hairstyles

How very girly! I guess that was to rub it in?

Anyway, thanks for the page ref.

Speaking of funny things, it says that an unarmed Space Marine in power armour weights 500 to 1000 kg. PA weights 180 kg, so anywhere from 320 to 820kg naked.
One of the Techmarine talents (The Flesh is Weak) triples his base weight, so 960 to 2460 kg. Toss back in the power armour, equipment and whatever else and you're basically looking at a solid 3 tons. I imagine that a full servo-harness would be hefty, but no weight is given for the implants. The Techmarine better not run and stomp around while inside flimsy or damaged buildings

Vhalyar wrote:Gender & Appearance
Due to the special nature of the zygotes that make up a Space Marine's geneseed, all Space Marines are male.

That's all there is about males/females.

That's about all we need.

Thanks!

Now, I noticed Amazon list DW as 'in stock' yet my order was still on target for a ship date of 10/3.

WTF?

I complained, so now it is shipping out sooner with free upgraded shipping.

So, there is that!

Another Deathwatch question:

What do Implosion rounds do? And don't say "Implode".

I got my copy at 7:00 in the evening yesterday... stayed up till 4 in the morning reading and re-reading parts. This books full filled all my expectations.

My favorite bit... its only a mid-sezed fluff blurb... was it "explains" what happens when marines are left chapterless while in service to the Deathwatch... this was always my hook for explaining why some marines could be in service to the Deathwatch for the rest of their life... it is answered to my satisfaction. They paint the rest of their armor black and wear a black shield to denote such a thing; they tend to be broken men hiding their faces beneath black robes. Its also a way to have penitent chaos or renegade, since they're rumored black shields that are just that.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Another Deathwatch question:

What do Implosion rounds do? And don't say "Implode".

Honestly there explanation is weak... its anti-matter that causes a large "decompressing vacuum" with in the target.
Its a shell that has a tiny amount of anti-matter... developed as an alternative to krak weapons... I'd assume the anti-matter explodes first, to create the vacuum effect by depleting the atmosphere and matter around it. IN addition to normal bolter damage it inflicts 1d5 points of agility damage.

Agility Damage? O...k?

Wonder why they bothered with that exactly.

Thanks for posting it though.

...Hey did you just add that thanks as an after thought? I hope you get your copy soon. Sooooo good... out with the old crack, long live the new!

How long has deathwatch been active? Since before the Heresy?

Pretty crazy if an entire chapter disappears or goes chaos while one deathwatch member is serving a term. Must be extremely rare, but I'd love to play one of those types.

After the Heresy as the Inquisition were not around during or before.

Unless you are after Monty Python's Spanish Inquisition.

Getting Into the Storm tomorrow, my FLGS just mailed me that they got them today.

ordered the DW GM kit this afternoon.

Finished reading through the book, I have to say that Techmarines got well catered to. They've got a lot of extremely fun abilities well suited to both combat and non-combat situations. Same goes for Librarians. The other classes seem fairly standard.
Stuff like Luminen Charge and Ferric Lure are pretty awesome and fluffy.

Sounds like Techamarines are pretty similar to Explorators from Rogue Trader, although, more combat focused and less exploration.

I think a fully kitted out techmarine will be a force to be reckoned with. The way I'm building my current explorator, I can put out 4 ranged attacks a turn with no penalties, with so much armor that I usually don't have to worry about trying to dodge. And that's without power armor and other space marine advantages.

Now imagine a techmarine who gets power armor by default, and the other space marine buffs.

Fully kitted out they have weapons to tackle all situations. The Servo-Harness nets you a 20m flamer, a 10m plasma pistol and the servo-arms attack. You can then add any pistol or close combat weapon to one of your servo-arms; I see nothing that would prevent you from sticking a thunder hammer on it. And finally, you still have your hands free for more weapons like the conversion beamer, and then you're set for long, short and medium range combat.

On top of the cybernetics and other Techmarine talents boosting your armor and toughness until you're a tank.

Only weird thing is that the Mechadendrite Use talent is extremely vague and specifies options that are not explained anywhere in the book.