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2010/11/22 23:04:00
Subject: Walking Dead Frazzled Mod Warning Potential Spoilers
ep, the hallmark of good Zombie fiction isn't the horrors perpetrated by the Zombies but by humans. In the Zombie apocalypse people are revealed to be the true monsters.
SO why not just make it an a normal apoc story. Some people want to see people get ripped apart by zombies. if i was to watch people be dicks to each other i'd watch C span
And whilst you're pointing and shouting at the boogeyman in the corner, you're missing the burglar coming in through the window.
Well, Duh! Because they had a giant Mining ship. If you had a giant mining ship you would drill holes in everything too, before you'd destory it with a black hole
2010/11/22 23:14:03
Subject: Walking Dead Frazzled Mod Warning Potential Spoilers
In some ways TWD could have been about any apocalypse, nuclear war for example.
however, zombies just add an extra layer of awesomeness.
TWD is very much in the spirit of Zach Snyder's Dawn of the Dead. In the opening scene a mother wakes up to find up daughter attack her and then rip out her husbands throat. That kind of disturbing craziness you can only get with zombies.
2010/11/22 23:28:58
Subject: Walking Dead Frazzled Mod Warning Potential Spoilers
KamikazeCanuck wrote:In some ways TWD could have been about any apocalypse, nuclear war for example.
however, zombies just add an extra layer of awesomeness.
TWD is very much in the spirit of Zach Snyder's Dawn of the Dead. In the opening scene a mother wakes up to find up daughter attack her and then rip out her husbands throat. That kind of disturbing craziness you can only get with zombies.
Whole heartedly agree,Zombies make every Apocalypse better.
Incidentally,In Snyder's remake of Dawn of the Dead,the little girl (Vivian IIRC),who attacks Anna and her husband at the beginning of the film,is not their Daughter,in the previous scene,when Anna is arriving home from her shift at the hospital and is seen talking with the little girl,she ask the child "How's your Mom?"...
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2010/11/22 23:30:33
Subject: Walking Dead Frazzled Mod Warning Potential Spoilers
KamikazeCanuck wrote:I see. I'm retroactively less traumatized now.
...Well,in retrospect the fact that the child is not they're child doesn't detract from the overall effectiveness of the scene,personally I quite enjoy the whole pre credit montage of the "World falling apart" at the beginning of the film...the scene with the Ambulance always gets me.
I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent.
2010/11/23 00:24:55
Subject: Walking Dead Frazzled Mod Warning Potential Spoilers
Anyways, I'm starting to like Daryl (the one the crossbow). He's a capable zombie killer and fairly smart. Has better temawork skills than his brother too.
2010/11/23 12:19:44
Subject: Walking Dead Frazzled Mod Warning Potential Spoilers
KamikazeCanuck wrote:In some ways TWD could have been about any apocalypse, nuclear war for example.
however, zombies just add an extra layer of awesomeness.
TWD is very much in the spirit of Zach Snyder's Dawn of the Dead. In the opening scene a mother wakes up to find up daughter attack her and then rip out her husbands throat. That kind of disturbing craziness you can only get with zombies.
I don't know, I don't necessarily buy that zombie movies are about the human situation. Most zombie films I've watched were gnerally about the zombies with some human interaction to break it up. Except for the comedies of course and the mother of them all... White Zombie buahahahah.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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2010/11/23 12:27:45
Subject: Walking Dead Frazzled Mod Warning Potential Spoilers
KamikazeCanuck wrote:Anyways, I'm starting to like Daryl (the one the crossbow). He's a capable zombie killer and fairly smart. Has better temawork skills than his brother too.
Yeah, he is definitely someone you want on your side when the s#!t hits the fan...
My Missus brought up an interesting thought last night...
[spoiler] She is of the opinion that Meryl (the Redneck who was left chained to the roof) was responsible for the zombie attack on the survivors camp,as she sees it,Meryl stole the van and then proceeded to pied piper some zombies back to the camp as revenge for being abandoned on the roof and having to saw off his hand to escape...[spoiler]
...sounds feasible to me.
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I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent.
2010/11/23 15:38:10
Subject: Re:Walking Dead Frazzled Mod Warning Potential Spoilers
FITZZ wrote: My Missus brought up an interesting thought last night...
Spoiler:
She is of the opinion that Meryl (the Redneck who was left chained to the roof) was responsible for the zombie attack on the survivors camp,as she sees it,Meryl stole the van and then proceeded to pied piper some zombies back to the camp as revenge for being abandoned on the roof and having to saw off his hand to escape...
...sounds feasible to me.
Not really feeling that one. He strikes me as more of a head on kind of guy. Plus, from the looks of him when we see him just before he "escapes" it looks like he has been sitting out in the sun for a while, which to me implies that he would not have had the time to conduct such a scheme.
Also:
Spoiler:
the chain to the stairwell is still locked in place. Not entirely sure how he would have got down quickly any other way (especially with one hand). Also wondering where the hell all the blood was on the roof from when he cut through several major arteries and veins without very much in the way of things to stop the blood...
Edit: not to mention all the zombies down in the store and on the streets.
Though the other party didn't seem to meet any resistance coming in, which means the zombies must have been drawn off somewhere, as they were swarming the building and surrounding streets previously.
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/11/23 15:40:09
FITZZ wrote: My Missus brought up an interesting thought last night...
Spoiler:
She is of the opinion that Meryl (the Redneck who was left chained to the roof) was responsible for the zombie attack on the survivors camp,as she sees it,Meryl stole the van and then proceeded to pied piper some zombies back to the camp as revenge for being abandoned on the roof and having to saw off his hand to escape...
...sounds feasible to me.
Not really feeling that one. He strikes me as more of a head on kind of guy. Plus, from the looks of him when we see him just before he "escapes" it looks like he has been sitting out in the sun for a while, which to me implies that he would not have had the time to conduct such a scheme.
Also:
Spoiler:
the chain to the stairwell is still locked in place. Not entirely sure how he would have got down quickly any other way (especially with one hand). Also wondering where the hell all the blood was on the roof from when he cut through several major arteries and veins without very much in the way of things to stop the blood...
Edit: not to mention all the zombies down in the store and on the streets.
Though the other party didn't seem to meet any resistance coming in, which means the zombies must have been drawn off somewhere, as they were swarming the building and surrounding streets previously.
IIRC...
spoiler:[/spoiler] When Meryl's brother and the rest of the group arrived and find that he's severed his hand and escaped,Daryl comments that he must have used his belt as a tourniquet,.."Explaining" how he didn't just bleed out on the roof..and of course we later see that he cauterized the stump using a heated burger press...suspension of disbelief..yes. ..but workable...as for getting off the roof..I believe they showed a fire escape ladder on the side of the building which he used to climb down...[spoiler]
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2010/11/23 16:58:26
Subject: Re:Walking Dead Frazzled Mod Warning Potential Spoilers
When Meryl's brother and the rest of the group arrived and find that he's severed his hand and escaped,Daryl comments that he must have used his belt as a tourniquet,.."Explaining" how he didn't just bleed out on the roof..and of course we later see that he cauterized the stump using a heated burger press...suspension of disbelief..yes. ..but workable...as for getting off the roof..I believe they showed a fire escape ladder on the side of the building which he used to climb down...
I understand him using the belt... I've not seen anything about presses yet though (is that in ep 4?).
When Meryl's brother and the rest of the group arrived and find that he's severed his hand and escaped,Daryl comments that he must have used his belt as a tourniquet,.."Explaining" how he didn't just bleed out on the roof..and of course we later see that he cauterized the stump using a heated burger press...suspension of disbelief..yes. ..but workable...as for getting off the roof..I believe they showed a fire escape ladder on the side of the building which he used to climb down...
I understand him using the belt... I've not seen anything about presses yet though (is that in ep 4?).
Spoiler:
Yes,when the group is searching for Meryl,they "track" his escape from the rooftop,as they follow the blood trail they come upon an oven and find a hamburger press with bits of burnt flesh on it,leading them to hypothesize that Meryl has cauterized his wound.
...Not really sure if that counts as a "spoiler"..but *shrug*
Spoiler:
The group then goes on to discover that Meryl has destroyed two zombies and exited through a side window,apparently escaping to the closed in alleyway bellow...from that point he apparently steals the groups van,and it is discussed among them that he is most likely on his way back to the camp..and very angry to boot...this is why my Missus speculated that Meryl,in some fashion led the zombies back to the camp.
Not saying I necessarily agree with her,but I do entertain the idea as possible.
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2010/11/23 17:30:17
Subject: Re:Walking Dead Frazzled Mod Warning Potential Spoilers
FITZZ wrote: My Missus brought up an interesting thought last night...
[spoiler] She is of the opinion that Meryl (the Redneck who was left chained to the roof) was responsible for the zombie attack on the survivors camp,as she sees it,Meryl stole the van and then proceeded to pied piper some zombies back to the camp as revenge for being abandoned on the roof and having to saw off his hand to escape...[spoiler]
...sounds feasible to me.
hmmm, I think your right.
2010/11/23 17:31:06
Subject: Walking Dead Frazzled Mod Warning Potential Spoilers
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2010/11/23 17:39:48
Subject: Walking Dead Frazzled Mod Warning Potential Spoilers
ghosty wrote:Im not so sure, dear Fitzz. The previous episode had the whole bit about the zombies leaving the city, and eating dear.
I assumed that the dead just stumbled in on them.
Poor Amy!
I agree that that too is a possibility dear ghosty.
...and yes,poor,poor Amy.
Spoiler:
The following day would have been her Birthday..I'm sure her sister will be quite the wreck for the next episode.
Spoiler:
pretty sure the next episode is them going to be dealing with zombie Amy and other zombified members of the group. Wasn't the Mexican guy bit but not killed too? He's got to be put down.
2010/11/23 17:41:21
Subject: Walking Dead Frazzled Mod Warning Potential Spoilers
ghosty wrote:Im not so sure, dear Fitzz. The previous episode had the whole bit about the zombies leaving the city, and eating dear.
I assumed that the dead just stumbled in on them.
Poor Amy!
I agree that that too is a possibility dear ghosty.
...and yes,poor,poor Amy.
Spoiler:
The following day would have been her Birthday..I'm sure her sister will be quite the wreck for the next episode.
Spoiler:
pretty sure the next episode is them going to be dealing with zombie Amy and other zombified members of the group. Wasn't the Mexican guy bit but not killed too? He's got to be put down.
Spoiler:
Yes,I believe your correct concerning zombie Amy...not sure about the Mexican guy,I know a Mexican woman is dragged to the ground in the scene...also..I believe Jim (the guy who was digging all the holes) is going to have been secretly bitten as well.
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2010/11/23 18:03:00
Subject: Walking Dead Frazzled Mod Warning Potential Spoilers
I dunno, I got the idea that when the guy was like "I remember why I was diggin' them holes" they're just gonna bury their dead before they become undead and then move on
2010/11/23 18:45:32
Subject: Walking Dead Frazzled Mod Warning Potential Spoilers
Just seen episode 4 - have to apologise to Fitzz -
Spoiler:
at the time he posted his thoughts on the attack on the camp, I didn't know episode 4 had already aired, so I was going on the "attack" in episode 3 where the single zombie made it through to the camp.
Having now watched episode 4, I think his conclusions are probably correct.
After watching tonight's I have to say they are likely taking it in completely different direction from the comic, and it is not just filler.
Spoiler:
they went to the freaking cdc. and there's a guy like Desmond from lost there, and he's the only one left. and he's going on about how this is a worldwide epidemic.
I haven't read past the second part of the first volume of the comic, but it seemed like a very cool story so far. I understand why they added things to stretch it out, but i'm not exactly sure why they diverted so much from the original.
Spoiler:
I'm wondering if Carl is still going to shoot Shane. I mean right now we haven't really seen the children learn how to shoot, and even though we've seen the set up for Shane to think about shooting Rick, they've already left the camp. Carl shooting Shane because he tried to attack Rick was the most poignant part of the first volume of the comic. They may be able to redeem it if Lori shoots Shane.
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2010/11/29 12:30:24
Subject: Re:Walking Dead Frazzled Mod Warning Potential Spoilers
CDC guy is a nut and tries to infect one or all of them with the Zombie bug. This leads to the season cliffhanger.
You know so far following Captain Cop Boy is pretty much 0-2. Time for Wicker Man to the Zombie Gods!
Also
Spoiler:
Captain Cop Boy likes to point that pistol doesn't he? If I were crossbow redneck man I'd seriously think about shoving that up his ass, or just leaving. These guys are all still moving Zombie Pizza.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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2010/11/29 13:19:30
Subject: Re:Walking Dead Frazzled Mod Warning Potential Spoilers
As an avid reader of the comic series i have to say how much i LOVE the TV series, the only thing that stuck out to me as being different is the way...
Spoiler:
jim gets bit. In the comic i think it matched more with the mindset of his character. After that night attack when all the zombies were dead he would not stop hitting one in the head with a bat screaming something like "YOU KILLED MY KID! YOU KILLED MY WIFE! YOU KILLED MY FAMILY! I HATE ALL OF YOU!" and the rest of the people were like "uhhh Jim? ..your hurt." and he looks down and hes missing a HUGE chunk of his forearm and hes like "just a scratch" so far thats the ONLY thing i miss.
oh and in regards of the show not being good later on?
Spoiler:
I liked the comic story in the beginning a lot bu i REALLY loved it when the Winter story arch and the Prison story arch go through. probably my favorite points of the story. If they stick to the book like they have, it'll be great
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2010/11/29 13:24:39
Subject: Re:Walking Dead Frazzled Mod Warning Potential Spoilers
...Well,in retrospect the fact that the child is not they're child doesn't detract from the overall effectiveness of the scene,personally I quite enjoy the whole pre credit montage of the "World falling apart" at the beginning of the film...the scene with the Ambulance always gets me.
