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Necros wrote:

Spoiler:

If the title of the thread says there's spoilers, why do we need spoiler tags?

Because not everyone watches the program at the same time?

For example I am about a week behind everyone else. I like to read up with what everyone else is talking about re the episode that I am on, but don't want to read about the next one by accident. You can generally tell when people are talking about the next episode and skip over the spoiler text.

Also means that I can read people's general impressions of the show without reading anything that gives away what actually happens.

Necros wrote:

Spoiler:

If the title of the thread says there's spoilers, why do we need spoiler tags?

That was put in after the thread started, by me, to cover my inherent ineptness at utilizing spoiler tags.

Frazzled wrote:I am thinking

Spoiler:

CDC guy is a nut and tries to infect one or all of them with the Zombie bug. This leads to the season cliffhanger.
You know so far following Captain Cop Boy is pretty much 0-2. Time for Wicker Man to the Zombie Gods!

Also

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Captain Cop Boy likes to point that pistol doesn't he? If I were crossbow redneck man I'd seriously think about shoving that up his ass, or just leaving. These guys are all still moving Zombie Pizza.

I agree...



Also.

5th episode was kinda boring. Too much Andrea morning her sister and Jim dying slowly and whatnot. The end was totally out of the blue with the CDC.

Just watched the fifth episode on stagevu to catch up with you lot across the pond.

Medium of Death wrote:Just watched the fifth episode on stagevu to catch up with you lot across the pond.

Spoiler:

Totally agree with Fitzz and Frazzled. Although I'm wondering why Scientist guy is all alone in that very secure building...

Frazzled wrote:

Medium of Death wrote:Just watched the fifth episode on stagevu to catch up with you lot across the pond.

Spoiler:

Totally agree with Fitzz and Frazzled. Although I'm wondering why Scientist guy is all alone in that very secure building...

Spoiler:

Simple. Thats because Scientist Guy is also Cannibal Guy...

Hmmm,that is one possibility Frazz,but...

Could be Fitzz.

Ya, he made a big deal about how his test subjects were infected but not yet zombies.

Well, last night was the season finally and I have to say I liked it quite a bit,overall I'm definitely looking forward to season two.

I liked it as well.



I liked how redneck brother #2 takes the head completely off the zombie with the axe. And who says Vikings are dead!

Frazzled put in spoilers for ya:



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It was an ok episode I guess its just the book had such a more powerful finale that required much less stereotypical hollywood sfx.

Seriously don't click if you haven't read book:

Yes ,he was pretty handy with that ax..



As for "red shirts"..

Love the comic, hope the show lives up to it.

@ Kamikaze..

FITZZ wrote: @ Kamikaze..

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I don't really see it as Hollywood that Carl didn't kill Shane...it's just pacing in the series, many viewers haven't read the comics...so there is a need to build up tensions and reasons for Shane to be killed,his attempted rape of Ricks wife went a long way in doing that for the second season,and as his character further devolves the confrontation your looking for becomes more likely.

The building with the ticking clock that Explodes is hollywood. Which is fine I was just saying the real low-effects finale is mroe powerful.

FITZZ wrote: @ Kamikaze..

Spoiler:

I don't really see it as Hollywood that Carl didn't kill Shane...it's just pacing in the series, many viewers haven't read the comics...so there is a need to build up tensions and reasons for Shane to be killed,his attempted rape of Ricks wife went a long way in doing that for the second season,and as his character further devolves the confrontation your looking for becomes more likely.

Also

Exactly.

I liked it. At the very very end, did it sound like a helicopter was flying by or was that my imagination?

Kinda wondering where they go from here. Hope they film it quick before the kids get all Harrypotterfied.

hemingway wrote:

FITZZ wrote: @ Kamikaze..

Spoiler:

I don't really see it as Hollywood that Carl didn't kill Shane...it's just pacing in the series, many viewers haven't read the comics...so there is a need to build up tensions and reasons for Shane to be killed,his attempted rape of Ricks wife went a long way in doing that for the second season,and as his character further devolves the confrontation your looking for becomes more likely.

Also

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Carl's character hasn't been developed to the point where him up and killing Shane would be appropriate to the TV version of the story. We get the impression that he's still very much a child and hasn't really come to grips with the realities of the world as it is, let alone the love triangle that is his parenting project. And to expand on what FITZZ says, the tension in the group hasn't reached the level where Shane dying by either Rick, Carl, or even Lori's hands is a necessary catharsis. The timing isn't right yet. We've just lost two of the party, the CDC just blew up, and the group is back on the road. The action has to die down for an episode or two, and the business with Shane in the basement of the CDC needs some time to ferment and pressurize before that plot comes to fruition.

Yes but they could have done some character developement for Carl in the ultra-slowpaced episode 5.

Look I'm know I'm coming off as one of those people who always says "The book is better" but I'm not. The thing is, it is in this case. I'm pretty fair-handed about these kind of things. I like the LOTR movies better than the books and there's even parts of The Watchmen movie I like better (although overall the book is much better in that case too.)

Sticking with The Watchmen example I prefer the "Dr. Manhatten threatens world" ending to the Book's "Squid-monster of doom" which if they put in the movie would make the movie like 2 hours longer. Both endings work well for their respective mediums.

I'm afraid that TWD is needlessly changing things. There's nothing overly comic-bookey about TWD so heavy change is not needed. i.e. no yellow spandex That Wolverine jokes about in X-Men 1.
The best example I can think of is one of my favorite movies: Sin City. They kept it the same panel for panel and the movie was better for it.

Anyways, rambling a bit there but the point I'm trying to make is I'm pro intelligent adaptation! Change suff to improve it not for the sake of changing it.

Necros wrote:I liked it. At the very very end, did it sound like a helicopter was flying by or was that my imagination?

Kinda wondering where they go from here. Hope they film it quick before the kids get all Harrypotterfied.

If you recall..




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KamikazeCanuck wrote:

hemingway wrote:

FITZZ wrote: @ Kamikaze..

Spoiler:

I don't really see it as Hollywood that Carl didn't kill Shane...it's just pacing in the series, many viewers haven't read the comics...so there is a need to build up tensions and reasons for Shane to be killed,his attempted rape of Ricks wife went a long way in doing that for the second season,and as his character further devolves the confrontation your looking for becomes more likely.

Also

Spoiler:

Carl's character hasn't been developed to the point where him up and killing Shane would be appropriate to the TV version of the story. We get the impression that he's still very much a child and hasn't really come to grips with the realities of the world as it is, let alone the love triangle that is his parenting project. And to expand on what FITZZ says, the tension in the group hasn't reached the level where Shane dying by either Rick, Carl, or even Lori's hands is a necessary catharsis. The timing isn't right yet. We've just lost two of the party, the CDC just blew up, and the group is back on the road. The action has to die down for an episode or two, and the business with Shane in the basement of the CDC needs some time to ferment and pressurize before that plot comes to fruition.

Yes but they could have done some character developement for Carl in the ultra-slowpaced episode 5.

Look I'm know I'm coming off as one of those people who always says "The book is better" but I'm not. The thing is, it is in this case. I'm pretty fair-handed about these kind of things. I like the LOTR movies better than the books and there's even parts of The Watchmen movie I like better (although overall the book is much better in that case too.)

Sticking with The Watchmen example I prefer the "Dr. Manhatten threatens world" ending to the Book's "Squid-monster of doom" which if they put in the movie would make the movie like 2 hours longer. Both endings work well for their respective mediums.

I'm afraid that TWD is needlessly changing things. There's nothing overly comic-bookey about TWD so heavy change is not needed. i.e. no yellow spandex That Wolverine jokes about in X-Men 1.
The best example I can think of is one of my favorite movies: Sin City. They kept it the same panel for panel and the movie was better for it.

Anyways, rambling a bit there but the point I'm trying to make is I'm pro intelligent adaptation! Change suff to improve it not for the sake of changing it.

I get where your coming from man,and your examples concerning Sin City are good ones (as are your ones concerning Watchmen...which I personally liked alot).
I guess what I was trying to get at is that TWD is a series and not simply a one off movie,so drawing in an "non core" audience and having people tune in for that next episode is something the producers will try to do,so the slower character/story development and " more Hollywoodish" additions,make sense in that light.
If you get what I mean.

Yes, its just TWD is also a series. In fact so far each episode has equaled one comic. I'm saying that sticking closer to the original script would attract more viewers anyway because its a better story. Once again I'm judging each scene on its own merrit.

Anyways, the debut and finale breaking all kinds of viewship records so they're doing fine obviously. That's a good sign for darker comic series adaptations.

However, I heard a rumor that they're fired the entire writing staff....not sure what to make of that.

KamikazeCanuck wrote:Yes, its just TWD is also a series. In fact so far each episode has equaled one comic. I'm saying that sticking closer to the original script would attract more viewers anyway because its a better story. Once again I'm judging each scene on its own merrit.

Anyways, the debut and finale breaking all kinds of viewship records so they're doing fine obviously. That's a good sign for darker comic series adaptations.

However, I heard a rumor that they're fired the entire wrinting staff....not sure what to make of that.

Hmm,hadn't heard anything concerning writers being fired...I'll have to look into that.

I have to wholeheartedly agree with you concerning the future of "darker comic" series adaptations,in that capacity TWD has indeed been groundbreaking.

My comic book guy is a die hard Preacher fan. He wants HBO to do that and sees TWD as the show that opens the flood gates to everything. Judging by the ratings it will be.

KamikazeCanuck wrote:My comic book guy is a die hard Preacher fan. He wants HBO to do that and sees TWD as the show that opens the flood gates to everything. Judging by the ratings it will be.

What I find extremely amazing on a personal level is that several years ago I got into a debate with some of my friends concerning the potential success of a T.V. series based around a zombie apocalypse (though we were not discussing the TWD comics...just a series in general).

Every single one of my buddies said "There's no way you'll ever see a series about zombies..there's just no market for it."

...I'm glad they were all wrong.

Yeah, i would say setting a cable ratings record shows there's a market for Zombies.
Not to bring up the reviled Twilight but did you notice Vampires and Zombies are everywhere this past couple years?

People just love.....dead people...

KamikazeCanuck wrote:Yeah, i would say setting a cable ratings record shows there's a market for Zombies.
Not to bring up the reviled Twilight but did you notice Vampires and Zombies are everywhere this past couple years?

People just love.....dead people...

Indeed I have noticed that,and while I'm not a fan of the Twilight films,I can't really complain that "darker" subject matter is no longer "taboo".
Plus I really can't see zombies receiving the same treatment vampires have...I can't imagine "romanticizing" a walking corpse who's sole intent is to pull your insides out and eat them.

Incidentally,it was George Romero's film "Day of the Dead" that first got me thinking about a television series based around survivors of a zombie apocalypse,the movie was quite good,IMO, but I had thought that it would have been cool to see more about the fall of humanity and the interactions between the characters in the underground bunker.

Well then I afraid I must recommend TWD the comic then! Available in TPBs at all fine funny book establishments right now.

Ha, I just noticed your location is exactly were TWD is set! Watch out for the exploding CDC!

KamikazeCanuck wrote:
However, I heard a rumor that they're fired the entire wrinting staff....not sure what to make of that.

yeah i think that's true, i read an article yesterday about it.