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I really liked the consistency of using the same mission everytime. There was enough to think about during match ups. I'm of the camp that the table, the player and the army is enough variables especially with a fairly complex mission.

I would really prefer if Capture and Control was taken out of the mix but I can't think of anything to replace it that would just be another objective. It's true you have to make an army for this kind of mission but I think because 3-4 of the 5 objectives are so easily bunched together the strongest lists end up being assault armies and it takes some of the maneuvering out of the game.

If you make one of the objectives Table Quarters it might reduce objective clumping.

I think that might just be worse. You would be fighting for the quarters and the loot counters at the same time.

The only thing I could think of is Hold the Center and loot counters can't be within 18 inches(or maybe more) of the center. You might have to remove the clause that they can't be within 12 inches of the board edge.

It's possible that you could do 4 objectives in each corner 12 inches from each table edge, Hold the Center and KPs. That sounds pretty good actually.

I like the loot counters in the corners for a few reasons.

1) it's more fair for shooting armies. When they are all bunched up it's really an assault armies world.

2) gives people a chance to do something with units that came out of reserves late or outflanked poorly.

3) rewards movement more than capture and control. creates a balance between shooting and assault.

I'd like to try it out but I have to help Parker test for Wargamescon. Hopefully the Blade and Bolter guys and ATC promoters will try it out to see if they like it.


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Might need to be 15, don't want it to be too close to the center but also not too far.

Capture and Control is the worst, lets find a way to get rid of it.

Thanks again to everyone for their input!
We are already working on building a bigger, better ATC for 2012- Dates and other info to follow soon!
-Shane


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Just a quick response to a few things:
1 - The Champion Element will be fixed (or removed if need be).
2 - The terrain will be worked on. The way we had the sections set up were 2 light tables, 2 heavy tables and 1 mid table. This was designed that way to be a part of the paring strategy. Honestly I thought there would be complaints about too much terrain, guess I was WAY wrong.
3 - The Venue - That particular room houses over 300 people all weekend on several occasions throughout the year and the A/C has always kept it cool. We have other events there and have never had issues like that weekend. please believe me when I say that if I had never used that room before that I would definitely not put us all there! The problem started at 1:00 Saturday when we had to open the doors to let the fumes from the backed up sewage system out from where some MORON put 3 ft of Paper Towels down a toilet and ruined everyones weekend! Once those doors were opened and the air let out, there just was no catching up and all of the units froze up on us.
Outside beverages will be one of our priorities to address next year any venue big enough to house something like this will always have strict food/beverage constraints but we will fight harder for your ability to bring things in.
Honestly I was ashamed of the venue all weekend and I can't apologize enough from maintenance to concessions and beyond. We did get half of our money back!
4 - We will start earlier on Saturday and be sure to better inform everyone of food options. One of the reasons we had such a short lunch break and times between rounds was so that people could get somewhere ASAP that evening. We had fliers and information out on the front tables for food options, but I never thought to announce that - apologies.

All great and awesome points guys and the only comment I feel the need to "defend" ourselves against would be the schedule because I feel that we started on time and had the parings and rounds done and everyone playing on schedule. We wanted everyone there at 8:30 Sat morning and wanted everything wrapped up by 10:00 that night and I was the last one out of there and sitting at a restaurant by 10:45 Sat night. It was 12 hours worth of games, 1.5 of lunch breaks and then the time in-between to figure parings (a min of 15 mins between each round) so it should have been a least a 14.5 hour day that we managed to turn into a 13 hour day. Besides the awesome players and turnout, it was honestly one of the few things I was actually proud of over the weekend - LOL!

Ive rambled enough! Thanks!


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Also, Most likely that the ATC will not be a part of SIEGE next year so that we can concentrate solely on the ATC event.
Date Location and Details will follow Soon!

You guys did a great job, there is no doubt about that!

I wouldn't mind starting at 7 though so there would be more time to get some dinner and hang out.

We will most likely start at 7 next year.

A 7a.m. start would be great! It would give us out-of-town guys an opportunity to enjoy the area, as well as, have time to hang out with the rest of the guys that Saturday night.

Tony Malave
http://chicagokamikazes.blogspot.com//

ATC 2012 Date Set!
June 16 & 17 2012
Details can be found at : https://www.facebook.com/ATC40k