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Paul's team is subtitled: The Wrecking BOLS

The Wrecking Crew East's attorneys, in true GW fashion, will be contacting you due to infringement on our IP.

I don't get if. More WC shenanigans?

LOL - yeah those darned WC guys...always being such rounders and pulling their shenanigans....


Those Scallywags!

A quick question. On the ATC page it lists the mission rules as follows:

Mission Set-Up:
Players roll off to place Seize Ground Objectives (3 Objectives will be used)
Players roll off to pick deployment zone (and thus determining who gets first turn)
Players roll off to place Capture and Control Objectives
Deployment
Seize The Initiative Roll
Play!

This may be a little counter intuitive, but is there a requirement that the Capture and Control objectives be placed at least 12" away from the Seize Ground objectives? Or is it possible to have one objective from each set sitting right next to each other?

Are you allowed to drink while playing, I know it largely depends on the venue so figured I would ask.

Ok - SOME ANSWERS:

DRINKING:
Drinking is not allowed inside the hall due to increased insurance expenses and other hotel/staff logistics.
There are several bars and restaurants within walking distance and you can go there before, after or in-between rounds if you desire.

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The ATC page will be updated over the weekdend with this info, but here are some quick answers:

ELDANAR - All objectives will be at least 12" away from each other. (Exact wording will posted on the site)

Tabled/Wiped Out Opponents:
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If the game ends with one player completely "wiped off" the table (one player losing their entire army) - The following rules will apply:

The winning player will automatically receive an additional 5 Game Points. This additional 5 Game Points Cannot take their total Game Points above 30.
Example Scoring in the case of a "wipe"

A.) Player 1 Completely wipes out their opponent Winning both Seize Ground and C&C but Player 2 still manages to win Kill Points - Total Game Points : Player 1 (25) Player 2 (10)
B.) Player 1 Completely wipes out their opponent Winning Kill Points and neither player wins Seize Ground or C&C - Total Game Points : Player 1 (15) Player 2 (0)
C.) Player 1 Completely wipes out their opponent Winning All 3 Game Objectives - Total Game Points : Player 1 (30) Player 2 (0)
*D.) Because someone is going to do the math/what if? scenario and ask! - IF Player 1 has 1 model left at the end of the game, not controlling any objectives and Player 2 won Kill Points - In this case, the following exception will be made and the scoring will be as follows (again, in this case ONLY) - Total Game Points : Player 1 (15) Player 2 (10)
IF this case occurs it overrules the "Achieving more of these goals than your opponent wins the game." stated above.

We believe that this system still encourages players to play the mission and helps to maintain a form of Minor Victory/Major Victory game result that reflects a very close game between 2 deserving players.





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ALSO:

Pre-registration cut off is Saturday May 14th 2011

Pre-Pay for your ATC registration BEFORE MARCH 14th and receive $5 off each team members registration cost! (saving you $25 a team!)
email shane@dicehead.com with "ATC Pre-Registration" in the subject line for details.

ARMY LISTS ARE DUE ON or BEFORE Saturday May 14th!

Loving that massacre system.

So just to clarify:

1. No alcohol in the gaming hall. (As an aside for people not from Chattanooga, there are some pretty good local brewhouses located there.)

2. All objectives must be placed 12" from each other, regardless of whether they are from the Capture and Control or Seize Ground sets.

3. Tabling your opponent will garner 5 bonus points, not to exceed the maximum game cap of 30 points.

4. Additionally, there is a potential 10 point penalty for the tabled player: if a game ends with one player tabling their opponent, AND only having one model left, AND not holding any objectives, AND their opponent won KP's, the player with one model gets 15 points, and the player that was tabled gets 10 (rather than the 20 they would otherwise get for winning KP's and tying on the 2 objective missions).

I like it.

My only question is, what if under the potential penalty, the player who tabled their opponent but lost KP's has more than 1 model left, but nothing to claim objectives with or too far away from any? Does this penalty only apply in situations where the "tabler" has an actual single model, or were you using the single model example merely as a metaphorical analogy?

Thanks for the update Shane.

"My only question is, what if under the potential penalty, the player who tabled their opponent but lost KP's has more than 1 model left, but nothing to claim objectives with or too far away from any? Does this penalty only apply in situations where the "tabler" has an actual single model, or were you using the single model example merely as a metaphorical analogy? "

The 1 model example is just for examples sake.
The situation could be more than 1 model left.
-Shane

I wear long sleeve tee shirts and soak the sleeves in vodka overnite for non drinking venues.

I think the ETC has all teams post their army lists ahead of time for review.

Are you planning to do that? If so - what do you do to handle last minute teams?

Thanks!

Hello!

My wife linked me to the Con information - I did a bit of reading and see that there are two separate 40k events on Saturday and Sunday for individuals.

Is there a plan ni the future to host a GT, or is intended to remain a primarily team/club based event?

There used to be a 2 day GT in this area, Exterminatus. I would say that Shane would be up for hosting a GT in the future, but assuming the ATC takes off as a big event (and it looks like it already is shaping up to be big) I doubt he would cancel the ATC to make it a GT unless folks lost interest in the ATC format.

Dash - there is actually a crap ton to do at this - it's full blown convention.

Believe this is right but there is a 40K doubles tourney on Fri night, 40K RTT on Saturday, then the ATC on Sat/Sun.

Along with that you got some Fantasy stuff, clicks, role playing, warmachine, FOW, etc, etc.

Plus hopefully a lot of cute goth girls playing dress up!

wileythenord wrote:There used to be a 2 day GT in this area, Exterminatus. I would say that Shane would be up for hosting a GT in the future, but assuming the ATC takes off as a big event (and it looks like it already is shaping up to be big) I doubt he would cancel the ATC to make it a GT unless folks lost interest in the ATC format.

I was definitely meaning in conjunction with, not in replacement of.

IE, perhaps a concurrent ATC and GT.

Aldonis, I looked at the events taking place at the same time - I saw that there was a 3 round RTT on Saturday, and a 3 round Gladiator on Sunday.

Its a 9 hour drive, and I'm not comfortable traveling that far for an RTT. Either it would have only a few people (since the main event is something else) and I'd feel dumb for having traveled that far to get to meet and compete against so few people, or it would have a lot of people, and I'd feel dumb for playing in an event without enough rounds and criteria to do any kind of fair assessment of who the winner should be.

Well my suggestion is to get a team together and come play in the ATC. Its gonna be great times. And you will get to see how a real Dark Eldar army plays

wileythenord wrote:And you will get to see how a real Dark Eldar army plays

*laughing* And how is that good sir?

Actually you copied my army pretty closely with the new codex, so I can't talk trash about your list. But I'd love to see you come compete.

Did you move? I thought you lived in NC, its not 9 hrs from NC to Chattanooga is it?

wileythenord wrote:Actually you copied my army pretty closely with the new codex, so I can't talk trash about your list. But I'd love to see you come compete.

Did you move? I thought you lived in NC, its not 9 hrs from NC to Chattanooga is it?

Its nine hours from nowhere Louisiana to Chattanooga though.

And....my list was created pretty much immediately after the codex came out - after I started using it, I started advocating similar type lists on the internet. If someone's list is like mine, either they were influenced towards it, or arrived at the same conclusions I have.

Dashofpepper wrote:

wileythenord wrote:Actually you copied my army pretty closely with the new codex, so I can't talk trash about your list. But I'd love to see you come compete.

Did you move? I thought you lived in NC, its not 9 hrs from NC to Chattanooga is it?

Its nine hours from nowhere Louisiana to Chattanooga though.

And....my list was created pretty much immediately after the codex came out - after I started using it, I started advocating similar type lists on the internet. If someone's list is like mine, either they were influenced towards it, or arrived at the same conclusions I have.

Great minds think alike. I am still planning to build 5K of DE to have all sorts of options and the possibility of edition changes. That and I am also waiting on the official Venom release. But most of the lists I have seen that are successful have similar elements but there are changes mostly due to personal preferences and whatnot.

Dash I think you should form a team, show up, and table him just for claiming you stole his list heheh.

As for the Exterminatus GT it is dead and gone. Shane has most of my terrain outside of what was...kept for lack of a more slanderous term....so if anyone had the potential to do a GT it would be him. Although I doubt he will pull people from the ATC for a GT so it would doubtfully be at this same venue.

Yeah Dash - I'll buy you a beer for tabling Wiley- sure you can get a bunch of others.

You should get you a team - The Hod-Father who posted above is one cool cat - he has Charlie Sheen Tiger DNA.

All he knows is...."Winning".....

The Maul in the Mall will be on the Circuit this year.
July

thehod wrote:

Dashofpepper wrote:

wileythenord wrote:Great minds think alike.

Same can be said of lesser minds.

Nope Dash, I saw you sneak into my window one night and steal my sacred list that was inscribed into golden tablets! Done act like it didn't happen!

Aldonis is jealous because last time he faced my Dark Eldar, the Dark Kin ate his flower eating pansy eldar for lunch!

I seem to remember a close game that you won - but I guess to some that's "eating their lunch".....

And my eldar don't eat their flowers...they grow them and string them together in an artistic fashion....

Overall we are tied in tournament play - although I still owe you for stealing my Dark Angel easy win from Adepticon and replacing it with a hard core leafblower opponent. That was definately hard core low balling there Wiley!

Ha! Well maybe we can get a make up game at the ATC, just make sure you match whatever pathetic army you bring up against the awesome Dark Eldar army in my team!

Maybe Necronian and Sabote can have a classic knockdown drag out too!

I'll bring either my Necron's or Tau.....either should be adequate to deal with your S&M loving chicks.....

Shane,

Will the venue be open after the tournament rounds are done for the day on Saturday?

There is some trash talking going down on another forum and we are thinking of arranging a couple of grudge matches.

Thanks!