Speculation on special September release (Update with WD September incoming page)

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**johnstewartjohn**

kitch102 wrote:Has there ever been a Fantasy Naval game done by GW? The reason I ask:

About 10 years ago I was given a VIP tour of Nottingham HQ. I got to meet everybody, the white dwarf guys, the designers, the mini makers - everyone. I can't remember the name of the guy that did the tour, he was one of the mini makers and his wife was on the board or somewhere high up in mega management.

Towards the end of the tour I was asked what I thought would be a good concept for a new game, and suggested the navy theme (spinning off of the recent battlefleet gothic release) and was told that it was already under consideration. Not to say that it would never be released, but I would have thought that we'd seen it by now if they had any temptation of releasing something like.

Yes, Man o war

**Brother SRM**

kitch102 wrote:Has there ever been a Fantasy Naval game done by GW?

Yes, it was called Man O' War and has been mentioned frequently over the past page.
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**Stealershock**

ok, if this comes through, i will be off my nips on happiness. even more so if necro gets it

**Balance**

kitch102 wrote:Has there ever been a Fantasy Naval game done by GW? The reason I ask:

About 10 years ago I was given a VIP tour of Nottingham HQ. I got to meet everybody, the white dwarf guys, the designers, the mini makers - everyone. I can't remember the name of the guy that did the tour, he was one of the mini makers and his wife was on the board or somewhere high up in mega management.

Towards the end of the tour I was asked what I thought would be a good concept for a new game, and suggested the navy theme (spinning off of the recent battlefleet gothic release) and was told that it was already under consideration. Not to say that it would never be released, but I would have thought that we'd seen it by now if they had any temptation of releasing something like.

Yes. GW release Man o' War in 1993. I've enver played it, but some friends have said it was more than a wee bit unbalanced by some of the supplements, which tended to be true of many Specialist Games lines.

For comparison, Battlefleet Gothic came out in 1999. They also did a not-quite-Battlefleet Gothic called Space Fleet in 1991.

Also, Warhammer Historical did a game called Trafalgar a couple years ago that was a real-world naval game.

Apparently for a while the MoW ships were available by mail order, but the mast sprues were hard to find

**ceorron**

Kroothawk wrote:Gw had two options:

1.) Rerelease a proven bestseller with the potential to draw new customers to the game (Heroquest/Warhammer Quest) or
2.) Rerelease a game, that was an economic failure even at its first release, has no potential to gain new customers and now has a strong established competition with Uncharted Seas and Dystopian Wars by Spartan Games.

Tim Kirby and Mark Wells looked at each other, lol'd hard and chose option 2.

They might do, Kroothawk. They might

. This is GW after all.

**Mr. Konrad**

Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:
Kroothawk wrote:Posted by Erazmus_M_Wattle over at Warseer:

I have it in fairly good authority that the secret release is neither bloodbowl or heroquest. In fact I have it on good authority it's not a specialist game at all.

Surely not Trolls in the Pantry???

@Hellfury - ah my bad, didn't make the connection, assumed it was FFG's baby.

How about Squelch!

**dantay_xv**

Lol, lets throw, space crusade, advanced space crusade, heroquest and advanced heroquest into the mix...

Space crusade gives you marines wandering a hulk with a mix of races and dreadnoughts.....

Advanced space crusade gives you space marine scouts (and libby?) against Tyranids fighting aboard a hive ship.

Heoquest and advaced heroquest, a bit like D&D, all enclosed in 1 happy little box.

No basis to this, except to follow on above they aren't specialist games but are gw influenced, but as folks are throwing out its this or that!!! I thought I would have a go.

**TBD**

So we have seen the october Ogres now, but still no word on september.

Since we are only a month away, shouldn't they at least be hyping mystery boxes by now?

**Tzeentchling9**

TBD wrote:So we have seen the october Ogres now, but still no word on september.

Since we are only a month away, shouldn't they at least be hyping mystery boxes by now?

Ogres is set for September, not October.

**TBD**

Tzeentchling9 wrote:
TBD wrote:So we have seen the october Ogres now, but still no word on september.

Since we are only a month away, shouldn't they at least be hyping mystery boxes by now?

Ogres is set for September, not October.

Ogres have always consistently been slotted in for october, not september.

Of course it is not impossible that things have been switched around @ GW.

**Tzeentchling9**

TBD wrote:
Tzeentchling9 wrote:
TBD wrote:So we have seen the october Ogres now, but still no word on september.

Since we are only a month away, shouldn't they at least be hyping mystery boxes by now?

Ogres is set for September, not October.

Ogres have always consistently been slotted in for october, not september.

Of course it is not impossible that things have been switched around @ GW.

The back of the August WD says OK for September.

**BrassScorpion**

So we have seen the october Ogres now, but still no word on september.

No word for Sept.? Huh?

Yes, SeptOgre as I coined it is coming and GW has announced it.

As I've said before, one "mystery box" in 2009 doesn't mean we're getting one every year, only that we're getting a rumor about one every year since.

This is some of what is coming in SeptOgre:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/60/383862.page

**TBD**

They must have switched things then.

If there is no special box then maybe Necrons can now be up in october instead of november, hopefully.

Wasn't a "special release" more or less confirmed by some of the usual & reliable rumour people at other sites though?

**Balance**

BrassScorpion wrote:As I've said before, one "mystery box" in 2009 doesn't mean we're getting one every year, only that we're getting a rumor about one every year since.

It's kind of like how a few years ago there was a big round of rumors that Apple would do a big Super Bowl ad to introduce new stuff, even thoguh I thinkt he last time they really did one that was a big deal was [b]1984[b] (in 1984).

**Kroothawk**

TBD wrote:They must have switched things then.
If there is no special box then maybe Necrons can now be up in october instead of november, hopefully.
Wasn't a "special release" more or less confirmed by some of the usual & reliable rumour people at other sites though?

Yes, September is confirmed by the current WD.
Early rumours placed Necrons around Haloween, so either October or November. Only later rumours placed them earlier.
Harry and ghost21 were told about a box containing some naval Fantasy game. We will have to see if it comes or if this was a misinformation. I am not eager to see a naval Fantasy game though. Warhammer Quest or bust!

**shoggoth**

i didnt know where to put this but...

Manager of my local GW said since its the anniversary of blood bowl, its gonna be something to-do with that or was it birthday?
Anyway yeah that's oct/nov

he also said nothing for Xmas because GW never do.

That's what he said, take it how you will.

**Ouze**

shoggoth wrote:he also said nothing for Xmas because GW never do.

Yes, why release anything special before the biggest shopping holiday of the year? Their "business strategy" makes perfect sense*.

*IN STUPIDWORLD

**That one over there**

I would like to see Warhammer Quest get a shiny new update, After the awsome sauce that was Space Hulk i thimk they'd be missing a trick if they passed on it!

**dantay_xv**

Necron codex is due for release around Games Day...

**ceorron**

Ouze wrote:
shoggoth wrote:he also said nothing for Xmas because GW never do.

Yes, why release anything special before the biggest shopping holiday of the year? Their "business strategy" makes perfect sense*.

*IN STUPIDWORLD

No don't think your understanding Ouze. GW always release their Chirstmas stuff in November and December is always the marketing teams "easy" month. This means everything is in the shops when the organised people go for their Christmas shop and will still be in stock for us picking things up on December 24th. That makes a strong case for Necorns in November tbh.

**Tabitha**

No navy game will be released this year by GW. I wouldnt hold my breath for warhammer quest either.

**Eumerin**

ceorron wrote:No don't think your understanding Ouze. GW always release their Chirstmas stuff in November and December is always the marketing teams "easy" month. This means everything is in the shops when the organised people go for their Christmas shop and will still be in stock for us picking things up on December 24th.

Or for those of us picking stuff up on December 1. Nothing annoys me more than an item that goes on sale one or two weeks before Christmas.

**Starfarer**

Tabitha wrote:No navy game will be released this year by GW. I wouldnt hold my breath for warhammer quest either.

I don't really disagree with your statement, but do you have any info to back that up? Your statement seems to imply your have some inside info, so I'm just curious if you've heard something that hasn't been discussed here.

**SabrX**

Finecast SoB special characters? One can always hope.

**Tabitha**

SabrX wrote:Finecast SoB special characters? One can always hope.

I wish but nope.

Sisters actually are not going to have that much fine cast stuff at all. Its mostly all plastics, even some of the HQ's. There is some fine cast stuff though, again mostly HQ's that are not getting new models.

**sarcastro01**

It's Dark Future.....or Chainsaw Warrior. Two easy to put in one box and never upgrade again games that could use a return to the sunlight.

**Ascalam**

Dark future was fun.

Never played Chainsaw Warrior

**fullheadofhair**

So, a section of the warehouse in US has recently been set aside and is screened off and no-one is allowed to know what is in or going to be in it. And I thought this thread was a load of bollocks.

edit for other thought : could it just be new ogres. Are GW really that stupid and dumb about hiding new releases.

**agnosto**

fullheadofhair wrote:
edit for other thought : could it just be new ogres. Are GW really that stupid and dumb about hiding new releases.

I'm not going to pretend to know anything but we're talking about the same GW that denied space hulk up until it was released even though everybody in the internet already knew about it months in advance.

So, yeah; De'nial (the Nile) ain't only a river in Egypt....

**H.B.M.C.**

fullheadofhair wrote:Are GW really that stupid and dumb about hiding new releases.

You're being rhetorical, right?