Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
Times and dates in your local timezone.
Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now.
I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent.
Jihadin wrote:some survivor group going to have a dentist in need of teeth
Actually, that's an excellent point - assuming we'll have a certified surgeon or doctor, harvesting the (healthy) organs of the dead would be a great idea - once we occupy a facility with a fuctioning walk-in freezer. I can only imagine how many people would join us simply based on the fact that doing so would ensure them adequate healthcare.
I still think cremation should be -the- method for corpse disposal (remember how I brought up flamethrowers earlier? Yea, exactly) and that we use their pyre for practical purposes at the same time, but organ donation should be considered, provided the conditions of the person's death was not due to Zombie Plague, Radiation, or anything else high-risk. I think burials should be ruled out though - Because you just never know with Zombie Plagues.
This message was edited 5 times. Last update was at 2011/11/19 00:18:44
You can't keep organs "on ice" for more than a few hours. You would be able to keep them alive longer using some kind of bioreactor, but they are really not available outside of research. Not to mention the problem of properly typing them and matching them to patients.
Phonebooks work. I seen a few insurgents try it. work reasonably well for 5.56mm but 7.62mm . Its only a temp stop gap measure. Complete body armors can be had for permanent use. Trust me...when the world goes to hell and your worry on catching a slug trying to get out of Dodge...your going have that thought cross your mind
Proud Member of the Infidels of OIF/OEF
No longer defending the US Military or US Gov't. Just going to ""**feed into your fears**"" with Duffel Blog Did not fight my way up on top the food chain to become a Vegan...
Warning: Stupid Allergy
Once you pull the pin, Mr. Grenade is no longer your friend
DE 6700
Harlequin 2500
RIP Muhammad Ali.
Jihadin, Scorched Earth 791. Leader of the Pork Eating Crusader. Alpha
SilverMK2 wrote:You can't keep organs "on ice" for more than a few hours. You would be able to keep them alive longer using some kind of bioreactor, but they are really not available outside of research. Not to mention the problem of properly typing them and matching them to patients.
Damnit! Forgot about the compatability part (Hence why... You know, I'm not a doctor )
Ahh well, take a page from Robert Pickton and use the organs of the dead for food for our pack of hunting wiener dogs and our livestock then. Pigs will eat anything.
This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2011/11/19 00:33:14
Also, I want a couple of these for my personal riverine force.
A rear mounted .50, a forward twin .50 and I think an M60 somewhere.
NO, not because of apocalypse now. I knew about the riverines and Plastic patrol boats before I saw the movie. It just reinforced how cool they were.
Unfortunately, most of these particular boats are decommed, so we'd have to go with some more modern... Maybe this.
Why the hell does that boat need so many guns for. I'm not complaining. It's cool as hell. But really? That's a crew of at least five on a little itty bitty patrol boat! Be great for attacking a helicopter or blowing up a car in the apocalypse.
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/11/19 00:36:56
Proud Member of the Infidels of OIF/OEF
No longer defending the US Military or US Gov't. Just going to ""**feed into your fears**"" with Duffel Blog Did not fight my way up on top the food chain to become a Vegan...
Warning: Stupid Allergy
Once you pull the pin, Mr. Grenade is no longer your friend
DE 6700
Harlequin 2500
RIP Muhammad Ali.
Jihadin, Scorched Earth 791. Leader of the Pork Eating Crusader. Alpha
Jihadin wrote:Phonebooks work. I seen a few insurgents try it. work reasonably well for 5.56mm but 7.62mm . Its only a temp stop gap measure. Complete body armors can be had for permanent use. Trust me...when the world goes to hell and your worry on catching a slug trying to get out of Dodge...your going have that thought cross your mind
....Everything I've ever seen would suggest that attempting to use phone books as body armor would fail, I've witnessed complete penetration with 9MM's and couldn't even begin to imagine a phone book defeating a .223 or 7.62x39mm.
Plus, how much range of motion could one have with a bunch of phone books duct taped to them?
I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent.
I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent.
Yea, when they did it in Mythbusters, it was vehicle armour. So there was still that layer of sheet metal on the door that helped add some outer strength to the whole package. Doubt phone books would work well on a human, unless they were hardcover... Steel hardcover.
You could always wear a steel plate under your poncho like mister Eastwood...
there were stories about a man who jumped the berlin wall clothed in a suit made out of meat...that he got from a butcher...he somehow stitched together hams and roasts and whatnot into a semi bullet proof vest...
But can you imagine the smell? And how many stray dogs would be following you?
Better then nothing but I give the insurgents credit for creativity even though they roll a
Proud Member of the Infidels of OIF/OEF
No longer defending the US Military or US Gov't. Just going to ""**feed into your fears**"" with Duffel Blog Did not fight my way up on top the food chain to become a Vegan...
Warning: Stupid Allergy
Once you pull the pin, Mr. Grenade is no longer your friend
DE 6700
Harlequin 2500
RIP Muhammad Ali.
Jihadin, Scorched Earth 791. Leader of the Pork Eating Crusader. Alpha
WARORK93 wrote:You could always wear a steel plate under your poncho like mister Eastwood...
there were stories about a man who jumped the berlin wall clothed in a suit made out of meat...that he got from a butcher...he somehow stitched together hams and roasts and whatnot into a semi bullet proof vest...
But can you imagine the smell? And how many stray dogs would be following you?
WARORK93 wrote:You could always wear a steel plate under your poncho like mister Eastwood...
there were stories about a man who jumped the berlin wall clothed in a suit made out of meat...that he got from a butcher...he somehow stitched together hams and roasts and whatnot into a semi bullet proof vest...
But can you imagine the smell? And how many stray dogs would be following you?
... Again, it's an interesting concept...but I doubt that any cut of meat would do much in the way of defeating most rounds....would be pretty damn funny to watch someone try it though.
I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent.
As an ex-tanker, my vote is NO apricots. Ever. Don't even mention them again.
They are evil and only bring bad luck.
Period.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
FITZZ wrote:
WARORK93 wrote:You could always wear a steel plate under your poncho like mister Eastwood...
there were stories about a man who jumped the berlin wall clothed in a suit made out of meat...that he got from a butcher...he somehow stitched together hams and roasts and whatnot into a semi bullet proof vest...
But can you imagine the smell? And how many stray dogs would be following you?
... Again, it's an interesting concept...but I doubt that any cut of meat would do much in the way of defeating most rounds....would be pretty damn funny to watch someone try it though.
Especially when they meet (meat?) my bull terrier.
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/11/19 02:02:44
Every time a terrorist dies a Paratrooper gets his wings.
CptJake wrote:As an ex-tanker, my vote is NO apricots. Ever. Don't even mention them again.
One of the NCOs back in my BMQ was attached to the PPCLI in A'Stan. Had a story about a ride in the back of a LAVIII and one of the boys in his section had snacked on a bunch of dried apricots beforehand. I guess they have a tendancy to make people gassy, because he said it seemed like a really... really... reeeeally long ride
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/11/19 02:28:21
Proud Member of the Infidels of OIF/OEF
No longer defending the US Military or US Gov't. Just going to ""**feed into your fears**"" with Duffel Blog Did not fight my way up on top the food chain to become a Vegan...
Warning: Stupid Allergy
Once you pull the pin, Mr. Grenade is no longer your friend
DE 6700
Harlequin 2500
RIP Muhammad Ali.
Jihadin, Scorched Earth 791. Leader of the Pork Eating Crusader. Alpha
I also vote no apricots however apricot booze is a maybe.
As for the dead, it probably isn't wise to use them as fertiliser if they radiation, virus's or some kind of poisoning had a hand in their demise and as we don't really have any way of checking that it would be smarter to burn them.
I'm an average stereotypical teenager that uses Dakka. I'm probably very unhealthy, and have the body mass of a squirrel.
Having said that, I'm a (fairly) good aim (No, not because I play CoD) and can probably run fast enough in an emergency. I don't need a lot of food, and I could probably make myself fairly useful in minor errands and supportive roles (i.e. "Fetch me some ammo boy, I need to keep the gun manned!" kind of thing)
PLEASE DON'T LEAVE ME TO DIE I WANT TO LIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pretre: OOOOHHHHH snap. That's like driving away from hitting a pedestrian.
Pacific:First person to Photoshop a GW store into the streets of Kabul wins the thread.
Selym: "Be true to thyself, play Chaos" - Jesus, Daemon Prince of Cegorach.
H.B.M.C: You can't lobotomise someone twice.
The American prison system has proved that point over and over again.
)
....Everything I've ever seen would suggest that attempting to use phone books as body armor would fail, I've witnessed complete penetration with 9MM's and couldn't even begin to imagine a phone book defeating a .223 or 7.62x39mm.
but I give the insurgents credit for creativity even though they roll a 
