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 Azazelx wrote:

 Dinamarth wrote:
I wonder if Deathwatch will be included?

I imagine with the new emphasis on smaller "DLC" type expansions - and with the amount of additional background and such fleshed out in the FFG RPG books, that Deathwatch could be their own standalone supplement, with tacticals, devastators, techmarines, psykers - the lot.

My friend and I debate this all the time, but I fully believe that deathwatch can be (almost) perfectly represented with the marine codex as-is. Sternguard or Vanguard are basically elite kill teams. Pedro makes Sternguard scoring and gives you preferred enemy (orks). You don't often hear about Deathwatch deploying in force, so pedro+sternguard+stormraven and a sniper scout squad gives a pretty good allied Deathwatch detachment for your Inquisition army. It's really not a bad stopgap.

But yeah I could see a Deathwatch supplement in the future. Preferred enemy (xenos), some good anti-monster Relics, scouts with battle brother stat-lines, and access to special issue ammo for all bolter weapons would do the trick in my opinion.

 pretre wrote:

 Kroothawk wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Although, it appears that the license does not provide for physical copies anymore. Whoops:
GW eBook License

So it's mobile computer (tablet, notebook) only again?

Any computing device.

"personal computers, e-book readers, mobile phones, portable hard drives, USB flash drives, CDs or DVDs"

Not to drudge this back up but... Item 3 under the purchase agreement for C: AS lets you print a copy.

Edit: Nevermind, saw that this was resolved. Oops!

This smells like an update for the inquisition stuff that was in the 3rd edition witch hunters book. And another digital only release for the inquisition? This really screams to me that when the grey knights are up for release we might actually get print versions of this and the sisters of battle in the form of a combined inquisition codex. I'll sign for that. Maybe they can actually throw out those plastic sisters that have suppossedly been done for ages now for that codex release then. I mean there isnt much plastic that could go with a new GK codex unless we get a bunch of new units. but if sisters are in the new book that would make a lot of sense. And give a reason why a codex would be digital only... for now!

 Azazelx wrote:
I imagine with the new emphasis on smaller "DLC" type expansions - and with the amount of additional background and such fleshed out in the FFG RPG books, that Deathwatch could be their own standalone supplement, with tacticals, devastators, techmarines, psykers - the lot.

Oh, you mean C:SM?

It could happen as you say, but I will be incredibly saddened if there are no Sternguard style Marines occupying an Elite slot in the upcoming =][= codex.

So...any word on rumored rules yet?

I'm tentatively excited about this.

As a side note, how is this going to interact with the Grey Knights codex? Will you no longer be able to take the Inquisitors and their Retinues in there? Or are these going to just be DIFFERENT Inquisitors?

 Jimsolo wrote:
So...any word on rumored rules yet?

I'm tentatively excited about this.

As a side note, how is this going to interact with the Grey Knights codex? Will you no longer be able to take the Inquisitors and their Retinues in there? Or are these going to just be DIFFERENT Inquisitors?

According to replies by GW digital edition, Codex =][= will not affect Grey Knights, but it will "just" let us use Inquisition forces into any imperial army; and there will be no new models (yet?). So what I get is: GK codex stays the same, but you can use inquisitors and their forces, maybe reorganized, with IG, SM (any loyalist), AS... and still with GK themselves.

 Vain wrote:

 Azazelx wrote:
I imagine with the new emphasis on smaller "DLC" type expansions - and with the amount of additional background and such fleshed out in the FFG RPG books, that Deathwatch could be their own standalone supplement, with tacticals, devastators, techmarines, psykers - the lot.

Oh, you mean C:SM?

It could happen as you say, but I will be incredibly saddened if there are no Sternguard style Marines occupying an Elite slot in the upcoming =][= codex.

Why, when for Deathwatch you just add the Inquisitor and some henchmen to a Marine army made up heavily of Sternguard. Deathwatch are primarily a variant chapter of marines, with additional wargear.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Why, when for Deathwatch you just add the Inquisitor and some henchmen to a Marine army made up heavily of Sternguard. Deathwatch are primarily a variant chapter of marines, with additional wargear.

So that you can run a Guard army with =][= support including said Deathwatch Marines?

Tried it in the past. Not as hot as it sounds on paper.

 Kerrathyr wrote:

According to replies by GW digital edition, Codex =][= will not affect Grey Knights, but it will "just" let us use Inquisition forces into any imperial army; and there will be no new models (yet?). So what I get is: GK codex stays the same, but you can use inquisitors and their forces, maybe reorganized, with IG, SM (any loyalist), AS... and still with GK themselves.

I'm looking forward to the next GK codex, as it is most likely that it will not include Inquisitors any longer. Not that I do not like having Inquisitors in the codex, but with an Inquisition supplement it stands as an opportunity to remove Inquisitors from the book and add more GK units in their place.

Jefffar wrote:


It does make me wonder what will happen with Wolves and Blood Angels. Will they turn be independant Imperium Codexes or are they joining the Black Templars as an add on to Space Marines. Right now I say they will stay Independant, but I could see GW making a mint off of having 1 SM codex and then a supplement aimed at each of the most famous chapters.

I'd venture to guess that SW and BA will continue on with stand-alone codexes, since they were not included in the new SM codex.

BA at least just got a digital update which supports that idea.


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I won't be surprised if SW get a digiupdate soon.

 pretre wrote:
BA at least just got a digital update which supports that idea.


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I won't be surprised if SW get a digiupdate soon.

Did the BA actually get an 'update'? I was under the impression that it was just a digital version of the current dex with no amendments? I'm sure I read a comment somewhere on how it's the same as they didn't want to invalidate the existing dex (which is still widely available) - unlike the situation with Sister where it was impossible to get a dex officially ptior to the digital release. I don't really understand why they released the BA dex digitally if I'm honest.

D

Supposedly, there are a couple rules changes. We have to wait for it to hit 'shelves' though.

So 6th edition has 2 product lines?
A general publications one, available everywhere and digital 'codices' and 'updates' to download for some?

We know of:

- Sisters of Battle, returned as digitial Adepta Sororita "Full" codex
- Inquisition may show up again as digi-dex.
- Blood Angels may gain an digital 'update'.
- none of those seem to have a model release alongside....

- Tyranids, IG, Orks have rumor threads and are unlikely to be limited to digital; I'd guess standard release plus Models.
- GW loves DLC now.

Maybe their aim has shifted? No more focusing on Minis? Make money from DLC and recycled material plus hobby content delivered by fans? Go for regions, like the video game industry did?

Would enjoy new products. But the rumor mill is filled with: "play our existinggames with our existing minis differently and pay for it" , "did we tell you about 3rd company of chapter xyz?", " buy the same content we gave you in the good old days in printed books, but this time piecemeal as DLC" etc etc...
Really Sad.

Codex BA isn't getting an update. All they are doing is putting in the current errata from their FAQ and/or the rulebook. It's the exact same codex otherwise. Just like all the other books they've released in Digital being the same as the released codex.

 1hadhq wrote:
So 6th edition has 2 product lines?
A general publications one, available everywhere and digital 'codices' and 'updates' to download for some?

Available to everyone, just not in every language.

- Inquisition may show up again as digi-dex.
- Blood Angels may gain an digital 'update'.

These have both been confirmed.

Maybe their aim has shifted? No more focusing on Minis? Make money from DLC and recycled material plus hobby content delivered by fans? Go for regions, like the video game industry did?

Except they are still putting out tons of minis. They just figured out that they can release supplements as well and make money off them. In fact, they are putting out more minis than they did before, I would bet.

Would enjoy new products. But the rumor mill is filled with: "play our existinggames with our existing minis differently and pay for it" , "did we tell you about 3rd company of chapter xyz?", " buy the same content we gave you in the good old days in printed books, but this time piecemeal as DLC" etc etc...Really Sad.

Supplements are getting hardcopies. GW Digital said digidexes may get hardcopies if they sell well enough.

I think you just like saying DLC.

So each Ordo is getting their own Warlord table.

 Eldarain wrote:
So each Ordo is getting their own Warlord table.

According to?

 pretre wrote:

 Eldarain wrote:
So each Ordo is getting their own Warlord table.

According to?

Games Workshop: Digital Editions
Hey Everyone,
Thanks for helping us reach 6,000 likes today.

As a reward, we're going to let you see the names of the Warlord Traits from one of the three tables in Codex: Inquisition.

And you get to pick which one!
Which would you like to see guys?

Xenos, Hereticus or Malleus?

Comment below to let us know, and tomorrow, we'll post up the winning table.

- Eddie

Cool, thanks!

Man, I hope it's Hereticus!

D

Go post!

It would be good if there was a line in there about making Sternguard Troops to form a proper Deathwatch force.

3 Distinct Warlord tables is pretty cool.

 pretre wrote:

 1hadhq wrote:
So 6th edition has 2 product lines?
A general publications one, available everywhere and digital 'codices' and 'updates' to download for some?

Available to everyone, just not in every language.

Everywhere and everyone is the same thing?

Am pretty sure you don't get digital publications in a brick and mortar store. Excludes the FLGS from these releases.
As I said, the product line is split.

Consider the fact they supply the Apoc material and BL in multiple languages.
Compare this to additional material like supplements and digi-dexes they limit to a single one and zero minis to support those releases.

I am still favoring the ancient method of nice new minis and books which I may fork over good money to whoever offers the best services.
If I wanted bits and bytes I'd buy computer games.



So back on Topic: when will they support any digitial release with minis?

Inquisitional Stormtroopers for example could have fit nicely... oh wait its not available in their stores and thus their employees can't offer those to us.
Too bad. No minis = no money.

 pretre wrote:
Go post!

I did.

For Xenos.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Go post!

I did.

For Xenos.

HERETIC! RADICAL! BLASPHEMER!

Xenos does kinda need some love though.

 1hadhq wrote:

 pretre wrote:

 1hadhq wrote:
So 6th edition has 2 product lines?
A general publications one, available everywhere and digital 'codices' and 'updates' to download for some?

Available to everyone, just not in every language.

Everywhere and everyone is the same thing?

Am pretty sure you don't get digital publications in a brick and mortar store. Excludes the FLGS from these releases.
As I said, the product line is split.

Consider the fact they supply the Apoc material and BL in multiple languages.
Compare this to additional material like supplements and digi-dexes they limit to a single one and zero minis to support those releases.

I am still favoring the ancient method of nice new minis and books which I may fork over good money to whoever offers the best services.
If I wanted bits and bytes I'd buy computer games.



So back on Topic: when will they support any digitial release with minis?

Inquisitional Stormtroopers for example could have fit nicely... oh wait its not available in their stores and thus their employees can't offer those to us.
Too bad. No minis = no money.

My FLGS has wifi so I can buy a digital codex while I'm there.

 pretre wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Go post!

I did.

For Xenos.

HERETIC! RADICAL! BLASPHEMER!

Xenos does kinda need some love though.

Precisely why I chose to vote Xenos.

We never actually saw the book, so what better way to see this supplement's Warlord tables than with the Ordos that never saw anything?

 1hadhq wrote:
Everywhere and everyone is the same thing?

Am pretty sure you don't get digital publications in a brick and mortar store. Excludes the FLGS from these releases.

You also don't get the entire line of direct-only products at a FLGS. So I guess we have three product lines: Stuff available in FLGS, Direct-Only and Digital.

I am still favoring the ancient method of nice new minis and books which I may fork over good money to whoever offers the best services.

They still do that, or have you missed the army release a month schedule?

If I wanted bits and bytes I'd buy computer games.

So don't buy them. These are IN ADDITION to their existing lines. No sweat if you don't want it.

I love the Deathwatch, and have all of the FFG stuff...and I already have a Deathwatch army.

Use Codex: Blood Angels. Two Assault Squads as Troops. They are Kill-teams armed for assault. Two Sternguard Squads as Elites. They are normal Kill-teams. Librarian with Jump Pack as an HQ. Sanguinary Priest with Jump Pack for flavor.

Everyone is magnitized, so I can represent 12 different Chapters in every role.

I added two Razorbacks, and I have 1,000 points of Deathwatch.

It actually says in the fluff that a particular threat may require more than one Kill-team to deal with.

So, even though I WANT the Deathwatch to be in the new Codex, it is not impossible to represent them on the table. They do well, but MSU units can be destroyed if not played well...