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@ Whale :

Nice entries. I wonder how many models will enter this contest.
Poor judges, I don't envy you. It will take you ages to rate each paintjob.


I like Cam's second guard. He is as sober as mine. Perfect scheme for a party at the nightclub.

Quick question, if someone paints two amazing guardsmen models (let's use weetyskemian44 as an example) would they be eligible for two awards? I only plan on painting one guardsmen, so I wouldn't be too keen on seeing the first and second place trophies going to the same person. Spread that love around!

Who cares about the prizes ?

Oaka, of course if you can only win one award., we will be fair and just in that case...im sure we can all agree on that

however, im not sure whether or not the 1 - 3 winner should be excluded from the Best Paint Scheme Award

thoughts?

Given that everyone has the opportunity to give in up to 2 entries and that all can be as silly as they like, and given that I personally am well out of the running here, I see it as the entries are all separate and judged individually, and as such can win 1st and 2nd and best paint scheme, if their entries deserve such recognition. I also see this being very unlikely to happen given the brilliant work so many people are handing in. Weety's are gobsmacking work, but others are brilliant too, and we have other people who will no doubt put in excellent work. The judges are going to have a very hard time of it I am afraid. But I think it's a bit tight that (for example only) Weety's second model gets dropped because the first one judged gets a prize. We all have the chance of 2 entries, I certainly want both of mine judged, and would enjoy having feedback and critique on both.

Just my two cents. Please feel free to ignore me as I have nothing to do with the running of this most excellent contest.

Hey guys when is the deadline for the competition now? I'm still waiting to get my guy in the post, thanks!

Well, weety actually used two significantly different styles, so that is pretty cool, but lets say Minus threw another guy in what was lime green and yellow, using the same styles as the first, etc. Based on the juding criteria, they are likely to score very similarly, if not the same. If his identically scoring models ended up in first and second, is that really fair for the other 20 people (or whatever)? As a judge, do I have to make up some reasons not to judge them the same, or should I stay blind to who painted them? I'd say you can get one of the top three based on your better scoring model, but any and all are open for the best paint. I'll still score each model, and I'd be happy to give feedback on anyone that wants it. But assuming Bebop runs a second lap, we don't want people discouraged by assuming that one 2 people are going to win all 4 places.

 bebopdrums2424 wrote:
Oaka, of course if you can only win one award., we will be fair and just in that case...im sure we can all agree on that

however, im not sure whether or not the 1 - 3 winner should be excluded from the Best Paint Scheme Award

thoughts?

I have been involved as a volunteer at several performing arts competitions (opening doors, mostly) and it was customary to have some awards that would be given to people who did well but didn't place in 1st, 2nd or 3rd - the one time this was not done drew a little bit of resentment because one pianist got several awards (including 1st place)...

In light of that I think that treating it like as a stand alone award would be best.

Just my two bits, thats all, by the way guys everything looks great.

One fair way to do it may be to allow people to do two entries and their lowest scoring model of the two is not counted in the running for a prize.

That way no one would take first and second place for example but would get feedback on both models none the less.

If I were part of the jury, I would do as Cam says. I would judge each entry individually.
It's a competition about the best painted model, not the best painter. If someone here is able to paint both best guards, plus creating the best color scheme... well he should be a top notch painter and deserve it, given the pretty high level of entries 'til now.
That's quite unlikely to happen, I'd say.


That said, imagine I'd enter 2 guards, win all the prizes. I would be REALLY happy of that because that would mean that judges love my work.
But I would only keep one prize, and offer the others to either the painter that comes right after me, or the guy (girl ?) that painted my favorite entry. Because I enter this comp' for fun and for glory. Not for the prizes.


Anyway... I don't have a second Cadian to paint, then if someone wins all the prizes... it won't be me.

I was using you as an example because bright ass pink and purple stood out.

I think one prize per painter is probably safer.

whalemusic360 wrote:I was using you as an example because bright ass pink and purple stood out.

I understood. ^^


Re-reading it, this post is a good idea I think.

carlos13th wrote:One fair way to do it may be to allow people to do two entries and their lowest scoring model of the two is not counted in the running for a prize.

That way no one would take first and second place for example but would get feedback on both models none the less.

This would avoid that someone gets first and second place. Even if I honestly think that it is unlikely to happen anyway.

As for the color scheme, it can be given to one of the best painted models or it may be given to another entry. It's possible that the best painted model also has the best color scheme. It's also likely that someone comes up with a very cool color scheme but is not the best painter in this comp' technically speaking. Both cases might happen. I don't see any problem with this.


But once again, Bepop this is your contest. Do what you want.

I'll leave the finer points of judging to the judges..... although it's sounding tricky at the moment! but i'm sure we'll sort it out all fair and just!

and MY GUARDSMAN ARRIVED :-) I'll be posting a w.i.p up on Friday to keep me motivated!

Finally....Did you like the crumpled envelope too?? Total class and style i know i know

EDIT: guys, check the OP, its finalized for updated rules regarding placement. but for the sake of saving you a trip, ill put it here:

If youve entered two models, your highest placed model will count towards the 1, 2, 3: The lowest will be disregarded.

For the color contest: I believe that every model will be allowed to enter that one. It seems nobody has a problem with this, and again, i will make it clear: THE COLOR CONTEST HAS NO BEARING ON PAINTING QUALITY. ITS SIMPLY ABOUT COLOR CHOICE. COLOR ONLY...!!!! understood? Good.

BB

Perfect.


Now, let's post new entries people.
I love seeing new guards posted on this topic on a daily basis.

All cool.

I can enter a third entry if you like????

Heres my thought: When the contest has officially ended, i will ask each entry to post his FINAL OFFICIAL ENTRY PICS FOR JUDGING. What this means, Cam, is that if you would like to do more than one, or redo an entry or what have you, id say this is acceptable. (JUDGES PLEASE CHIME IN HERE IF YOU FEEL DIFFERENTLY ABOUT THIS) However you can only officially submit two entries for judging. No one will stop you if you have new ideas that you want to try or a scheme that you just thought of and would rather enter than a previous entry. Im quite sure that no one would be upset if you wish to redo your entry. The constant is that for the FINAL entries for judging, there can only be two.
Honestly, im just enjoying seeing so many creative cadian schemes, that personally for my own enjoyment, id love to see many more...

 bebopdrums2424 wrote:
Heres my thought: When the contest has officially ended, i will ask each entry to post his FINAL OFFICIAL ENTRY PICS FOR JUDGING. What this means, Cam, is that if you would like to do more than one, or redo an entry or what have you, id say this is acceptable. (JUDGES PLEASE CHIME IN HERE IF YOU FEEL DIFFERENTLY ABOUT THIS) However you can only officially submit two entries for judging. No one will stop you if you have new ideas that you want to try or a scheme that you just thought of and would rather enter than a previous entry. Im quite sure that no one would be upset if you wish to redo your entry. The constant is that for the FINAL entries for judging, there can only be two.
Honestly, im just enjoying seeing so many creative cadian schemes, that personally for my own enjoyment, id love to see many more...

I know what you mean on that last part - notice how none of us went with the official color scheme? Proof that GW's Cadians need some new colors...

So if I do post another pic of another guardsman, it is ok, and will hopefully encourage others and give people idea's, and on the last day, I have to submit the TWO entries I actually want to enter.

Seems good to me.

Yes i like that.

Honestly, speaking about the future, i have quite a few pretty strange and awkward painting challenges in line, and i will even be entering them myself because i want to focus and learn new techniques and we'll help each other as a community grow to be stronger painters. I think these competitions are great incentive to push and inspire each other, so im just stoked to see everyone try new things and push themselves.
The awards will get old and dusty but sharpened skills are the true awards.

Exactly, I got no hope in this kind of competition, and I don't enter it for that reason, it's fun and it pushes me that little bit further each time.Win win.

I think I've finally finished my 1st guardsman to the point where I am happy with him. My 2nd one is under way now.


Glad you got your Guardsman Damo. Saves me from sacrificing one of mine.

I'll give it a shot. Here is the very early start for my guardsmen.

Here's where mine stands currently. Inspired by the winter/mountain suits of the German & Russian armies and actions like the Battle of Hurtgen Forest.

Gits, that Guardsman looks 'Cool' :-) great idea for reference too! he looks a little pale in the face though lol!

Haven't gotten that far yet

Hey folks

here's my entry, very much WIP at the moment, but I kinda wanted to see what the model would look like once I took a pic and uploaded it, my camera ain't the best and light levels here are pretty low (I live in rain soaked N.Ireland), think I need to play about with the settings as its not quite as pale as the pic suggests in real life!



Working pretty much 'til the end of the week but should be able to get him completed by sunday and then i'll post my front and back shots for the comp. There's some badass paint jobs so far, I don't expect to be in the running but this competition has given me the kick up the arse to break out my brushes again, so big thanks to you Bebop!

Happy painting y'all!

Love the rather desheveled look of that trooper VC. Nicely done.