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@Alphy - Those aren't "fake" SGs. There's like a penny in extra plastic to produce each extra model!

As I said before, 100 minis for $100.

 Alpharius wrote:
No worries - 'Fake Stretch Goals' are bound to hook us up with alternate sculpts and loads more minis!

All of which will probably be blown long out of the water before they're even able to post the campaign.

Is $3M out of the question?

I think $3m is a real possibility.

If they make 3 million they should toss in a few more than just a hundred.

$100 should get me at least 120 minis then.

The Wulsburg expansion seems very light compared to the last two.

Toxic Mall: 4 game tiles , 43 miniatures, 22 sculpts (4 new survivors in their human and zombivor versions, 29 Toxic Zombies miniatures and the Zombivor versions of Season 1 survivors). 40 cards.

Angry Neighbours: 3 game tiles, 34 miniatures, 15 sculpts (18 seeker Zombie Miniatures. 4 Survivor miniatures. 4 Zombivor miniatures. 8 Companion miniatures (4 sculpts)), 63 Cards.

Wulfburg looks to have: 2 game tiles, 22 miniatures, 6 sculpts, 30 cards.

All the above contents are as listed at the start of the campaign and no additional contents / sculpts were added to Toxic Mall or Angry Neighbors boxes as stretch goals with the exception of a first player counter in toxic mall which I haven't included.



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edit: Wulfsburg does come with 4 extra character trays but given that we already have 6 in the main box I can't see them getting much use.

I wonder if CMoN will be bumping the "sweet spot" up to $150 with a lot of SGs for Wulfsburg vs the base game.

I think at this point, $3M is almost a guarantee!

So the wolfsburg expansion looks like it includes 4 more of those plastic dashboards... Any guess as to why? Is this game gonna support up to 10 players, or is that maybe a mistake?

Gawd, I can't imagine playing this with 10...

 Alpharius wrote:
I think at this point, $3M is almost a guarantee!

Seems like a fair assessment based on the previous two kickstarters.

Currently budgeting $150 for this but that might fly out the window once it gets rolling. Hope to see medieval Ash from Army of Darkness. That would be swell.

 Dentry wrote:


Seems like a fair assessment based on the previous two kickstarters.

Currently budgeting $150 for this but that might fly out the window once it gets rolling. Hope to see medieval Ash from Army of Darkness. That would be swell.

Yeah, that really would be quite nice - and timely too!

 Alpharius wrote:
I think at this point, $3M is almost a guarantee!

You think the medieval setting brings in enough people to counteract the people who don't want this because it isn't a continuation of normal Zombicide?

That + CMON + the Deal that will be offered = yes, why not!

I had the initial Zombicide, sold it all off, didn't get Season 2 or 3 but I'm really interested in this one.

 Alpharius wrote:
I had the initial Zombicide, sold it all off, didn't get Season 2 or 3 but I'm really interested in this one.

Ah, fair enough. I have the first three seasons and basically every odd-on product ever made for the game, so I'm at the "That'll do pig!" stage of my Zombicide buying enthusiasm. The fact that they've completely changed the aesthetic just makes it easier to quit,

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
I had the initial Zombicide, sold it all off, didn't get Season 2 or 3 but I'm really interested in this one.

Ah, fair enough. I have the first three seasons and basically every odd-on product ever made for the game, so I'm at the "That'll do pig!" stage of my Zombicide buying enthusiasm. The fact that they've completely changed the aesthetic just makes it easier to quit,

I did not do any of the earlier versions, but am in for this one. Lots of gamers out there not interested in contemporary settings, but are very interested in medieval/fantasy settings, so there is a completely new market to sell to. I'm primarily in for some fun new Chaos cultists for my Nurgle 40K army, but the game sounds fun as well. Changing the aesthetic might turn off some players, but changing up the rules a bit might also draw in owners of the existing games who are looking for a change of pace.

I suspect that they will eventually have do a sci-fi version as well. Again, a whole new market of potential players...

Tim

timd wrote:
I suspect that they will eventually have do a sci-fi version as well. Again, a whole new market of potential players...

Tim

Sci-Fi Zombies in space? By CMoN?



Yeah, it's gonna be a while.

Sedition Wars wasn't a Guillotine Games product, had models that needed to be glued together, game breaking mechanic problems. It was all the wosrt aspects of a board game and tabletop miniatures game in the same box.

Zombicide Black Plague this year, maybe Zombicide Season 4 next year, and then we are fully ripe for Zombies in Space, done right.

9 Space Station Tiles, 70 something astronaught zombies, maybe some space monkeys, rules for opening airlocks and sucking zombies in space, and we have a hit game.

 adamsouza wrote:
9 Space Station Tiles, 70 something astronauht zombies, maybe some space monkeys, rules for opening airlocks and sucking zombies in space, and we have a hit game.

Add game mechanics for the crazy AI running the place and I'm in.

We got 3 contemporary Zombicide sets, so if fantasy proved popular (and it will) I suspect we'll get 2 more of them before they decide to move it again (and have to more heavily re-do the rules)

 adamsouza wrote:
Sedition Wars wasn't a Guillotine Games product, had models that needed to be glued together, game breaking mechanic problems. It was all the wosrt aspects of a board game and tabletop miniatures game in the same box.

Zombicide Black Plague this year, maybe Zombicide Season 4 next year, and then we are fully ripe for Zombies in Space, done right.

9 Space Station Tiles, 70 something astronaught zombies, maybe some space monkeys, rules for opening airlocks and sucking zombies in space, and we have a hit game.

I completely agree that SedWars is pure gak. That's not up for argument.

However...

CMoN still published that crap. It's still their name on the box, and it's still current product.

Plus, GG is working with the idiots behind SedWars.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
I completely agree that SedWars is pure gak. That's not up for argument.

However...

CMoN still published that crap. It's still their name on the box, and it's still current product.

Plus, GG is working with the idiots behind SedWars.

Maybe. But CMoN also did Super Dungeon Explore and then Arcadia Quest so it doesn't seem far fetched that they'd do a Sci-Fi zombie reboot.

 adamsouza wrote:
Sedition Wars wasn't a Guillotine Games product, had models that needed to be glued together, game breaking mechanic problems. It was all the wosrt aspects of a board game and tabletop miniatures game in the same box.

Zombicide Black Plague this year, maybe Zombicide Season 4 next year, and then we are fully ripe for Zombies in Space, done right.

9 Space Station Tiles, 70 something astronaught zombies, maybe some space monkeys, rules for opening airlocks and sucking zombies in space, and we have a hit game.

Yup, easy money...

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
CMoN still published that crap. It's still their name on the box, and it's still current product.

Probably won't be a current product by the time they are ready to do Sci-Fi Zombicide. Miniature Market was recently dumping the Sedition Wars box sets for $20...

T

timd wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
CMoN still published that crap. It's still their name on the box, and it's still current product.

Probably won't be a current product by the time they are ready to do Sci-Fi Zombicide. Miniature Market was recently dumping the Sedition Wars box sets for $20...

T

If I had paid $20 + S&H for my copy of SedWars, I'd be quite satisfied with it.

Tacking on another C-note? Not so much.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

If I had paid $20 + S&H for my copy of SedWars, I'd be quite satisfied with it.

I skipped the kickstarter and picked up 5 boxes on Miniatures Market.

Tossed the rule books and cards, kept the floor tiles, dice, markers, and miniatures.

 adamsouza wrote:
Sedition Wars wasn't a Guillotine Games product, had models that needed to be glued together, game breaking mechanic problems. It was all the wosrt aspects of a board game and tabletop miniatures game in the same box.

Zombicide Black Plague this year, maybe Zombicide Season 4 next year, and then we are fully ripe for Zombies in Space, done right.

9 Space Station Tiles, 70 something astronaught zombies, maybe some space monkeys, rules for opening airlocks and sucking zombies in space, and we have a hit game.

Just think... All the Not Star Trek zombies, so many red shirts , not to mention not Jedi, zombie yoda, zombie Chewie, and zombie princess slave girl .

Wasn't Sedition Wars also one of the forerunners for miniature board games on KS?

The process has been refined quite a bit since then.

As a side note, I have the last shipment of Zombicide S3 in hand and the sculpt quality is really getting better - the artists and manufacturers are learning what works and what doesn't for the medium - fine details suffer a bit (a few squished noses or missing ears), but exaggerated sculpting really stands out, and I'm excited to see the fantasy sculpts for Black Plague.

~iPaint

Yeah, SedWars was one of the first KS to get out and go big. I have to imagine CMoN learned a lot about what doesn't work there, which is why more of their KS are all about things that are just about ready to go, versus things that need a lot of new stuff created.

 Theophony wrote:


Just think... All the Not Star Trek zombies, so many red shirts , not to mention not Jedi, zombie yoda, zombie Chewie, and zombie princess slave girl .

Zombie Han, zombie Luke with light saber, zombie Vader, zombie Jabba, zombie Aliens, zombie Ripley, zombie Predators, zombie Sarah Conner and characters lifted from every other cool sci-fi movie out there. Definitely an enormous license to print money...

Tim

The zombie VIP combinations would be priceless.

Could have companion robots instead of dogs

We should probably take the discussion of a hypothetical SF version of Zombicide that's at least 3 or 4 years away, if ever, to a separate thread...

 Alpharius wrote:
We should probably take the discussion of a hypothetical SF version of Zombicide that's at least 3 or 4 years away, if ever, to a separate thread...

Party Pooper.