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We'll find out soon enough eh.

Marleymoo wrote:
That latest rumour is probably a giant spirit host as part of the malign portents thing. Y'know, 'cos we all need more giant centre piece models.


Five mini lion ghosts coming together to form one super ghost?

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Marleymoo wrote:
That latest rumour is probably a giant spirit host as part of the malign portents thing. Y'know, 'cos we all need more giant centre piece models.


I guess GW makes a good deal of moola off them

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Um, guys, I don't know it's apathy, or people not caring about old images, but weren't these 2 already solved...?





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 EnTyme wrote:
Was not expecting that to be a Nurgle model when that image popped up.


To be fair, it's actually bit from LoC, the herald just stole it
   
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The arch and the Shadespire Skaven are solved. But the Lion chewing on the anvil is still unknown. It would fit with the theme of the new Stormcast but there are no clear pics of his shoulder pads yet.
   
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Most likely, the lion is the shoulderpad, but we can't see it clearly enough to confirm. We should know in a couple weeks when the heralds go up for sale.

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It looks a little flat to be a shoulder pad to me but it is possible.

If it's not on him then it lends weight to the follow-up army speculation that each champion could be representing. (Though it'd be a neat twist that instead of a force the engineer gets a terrain kit like the stormkeep mentioned)


Um, guys, I don't know it's apathy, or people not caring about old images,


Thanks for the re-cap but the match-ups for those were already shown several pages back.



   
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Baron Klatz wrote:

Thanks for the re-cap but the match-ups for those were already shown several pages back.

They are still in unsolved section in OP tho...

   
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Oh, then yeah. Someone needs to update that.

(I didn't even know there was a revealed section in the OP. )
   
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I figured we were waiting for the things to actually be released before they were officially marked off as solved?

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That flame definitely looks like the ethereal kind (like Nagash or the Yncarne), not fire/smoke.

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Holy Terra.

I'm gonna say it's coral.

   
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I'm not a fan of the unhelmeted, bare-armed Stormcast. I liked the idea that they were inhuman golems losing touch with their humanity as they are reforged to fight forever.

If they're just handsome studly dudes in armor then they really are just Sigmarines.

 
   
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Well it's been a thing since the first novel when a Stormcast kneeled down to take his helmet off to show a distressed woman he was human.

The golem thing can happen too though, if they get reforged too many times(and not have their soul shatter) then they can become terrible creatures like that.

In anycase, I always appreciated their human side to show that they're knights of Azyr. They have pasts ranging from kings and heroes to bakers and doctors that things like a combat engineer occupation can really show off.

It's their humanity, varied pasts, eagerness to work with non-humans and abilities to contribute off the battlefield and have down-time they spend in pursuit of other things(like visiting family) that seperates them from 40k's genetic super soldiers to me. (Plus the females in their armies and things like Hamilcar getting a romance sub-plot in the future)

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Shoulder pad of the Builder is too curve with no corner compare to the rumour pic.
   
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Kid_Kyoto wrote:
I'm not a fan of the unhelmeted, bare-armed Stormcast. I liked the idea that they were inhuman golems losing touch with their humanity as they are reforged to fight forever.

If they're just handsome studly dudes in armor then they really are just Sigmarines.


That was never a thing, and they are fantasy space marines like space marines were sci fi chaos warriors. Everyone understands and accepts this.

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JSG wrote:
Kid_Kyoto wrote:
I'm not a fan of the unhelmeted, bare-armed Stormcast. I liked the idea that they were inhuman golems losing touch with their humanity as they are reforged to fight forever.

If they're just handsome studly dudes in armor then they really are just Sigmarines.


That was never a thing, and they are fantasy space marines like space marines were sci fi chaos warriors. Everyone understands and accepts this.

Except it literally is a thing. Read what Klatz posted.

The issue is, as it has been since the launch, that one facet gets focused on by the material that is readily available or seen while the other facet is basically left alone.
In this case, those who have been Reforged often enough to become "inhuman golems" aren't being showcased as much as the "kindly humans elevated up".
   
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That's after multiple reforgings though, not the initial one.

Something is lost each time. Sometimes, you notice a void in yourself. Sometimes you're utterly oblivious. Sometimes, it's unnoticed by anyone (could just be a particular memory lost)

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Not sure if the lion head with the anvil in its mouth is the shoulder pad on the Storm Cast however the anvil icon is on his knee pad so they are related somehow.

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 Kanluwen wrote:
JSG wrote:
Kid_Kyoto wrote:
I'm not a fan of the unhelmeted, bare-armed Stormcast. I liked the idea that they were inhuman golems losing touch with their humanity as they are reforged to fight forever.

If they're just handsome studly dudes in armor then they really are just Sigmarines.


That was never a thing, and they are fantasy space marines like space marines were sci fi chaos warriors. Everyone understands and accepts this.

Except it literally is a thing. Read what Klatz posted.

The issue is, as it has been since the launch, that one facet gets focused on by the material that is readily available or seen while the other facet is basically left alone.
In this case, those who have been Reforged often enough to become "inhuman golems" aren't being showcased as much as the "kindly humans elevated up".


The loss with reforging thing is just there to make death have a cost. Inhuman golems would be very extreme cases. It's not what they are but what some might become. You may as well say "I really like the idea of zombies" when talking about mortal factions.
   
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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
That's after multiple reforgings though, not the initial one.

Something is lost each time. Sometimes, you notice a void in yourself. Sometimes you're utterly oblivious. Sometimes, it's unnoticed by anyone (could just be a particular memory lost)

Hence why I said "reforged often enough".


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 Kanluwen wrote:
JSG wrote:
Kid_Kyoto wrote:
I'm not a fan of the unhelmeted, bare-armed Stormcast. I liked the idea that they were inhuman golems losing touch with their humanity as they are reforged to fight forever.

If they're just handsome studly dudes in armor then they really are just Sigmarines.


That was never a thing, and they are fantasy space marines like space marines were sci fi chaos warriors. Everyone understands and accepts this.

Except it literally is a thing. Read what Klatz posted.

The issue is, as it has been since the launch, that one facet gets focused on by the material that is readily available or seen while the other facet is basically left alone.
In this case, those who have been Reforged often enough to become "inhuman golems" aren't being showcased as much as the "kindly humans elevated up".


The loss with reforging thing is just there to make death have a cost. Inhuman golems would be very extreme cases. It's not what they are but what some might become. You may as well say "I really like the idea of zombies" when talking about mortal factions.

That doesn't change that it is a thing.

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JSG wrote:
The loss with reforging thing is just there to make death have a cost. Inhuman golems would be very extreme cases. It's not what they are but what some might become. You may as well say "I really like the idea of zombies" when talking about mortal factions.


Then comes question of do they get brand new reinforcements ever and golemized ones put to death. If not in eternal war either sigmarines never lose(ie never die) or sooner or later all have died often enough they are golems.

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Stormcasts get constant reinforcements as permanent death has been a thing for them since the start. They even have a massive mausoleum to honour those who couldn't be brought back.

As far as I'm aware, no Stormcast has gone to the extremes of golem just yet. But there's plenty of examples of memory loss of previous lives or even older battles.
   
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Obyrn in the Shadespire game has gone from a loud, boisteeous warrior to a stone cold, silent killer on his fourth reforging.

So if he isnt golem, he must be close.

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On reforging and becoming golem-creatures; I’d like to see a chamber full of dudes reforged so many times they turn into lightning golems and their armour is a hollow shell bound together by arcs of electricity.

This guy, however, clearly hasn’t been reforged after the initial resurrection.

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Eh, it's hard to see that becoming an official chamber. (Though an cool looking fan-made one)

Golemized Stormcasts don't have the sense of other Stormcasts and you've got two instances in the lore of one overly reforged knight uncaringly leading his force into a Skaven ambush despite the warnings and another who kept going after a Chaos warrior over and over again with each time becoming more basic and predictable.

This is likely why they hardly show up, they become (albeit powerful) shells that march straight to their final deaths.

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When sales slow down they will have golem ones who have gone rogue released
   
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Haha, or just unveil the other chambers they have. Ruination(probably warmachines) and the new Logistic one.
   
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 Crazyterran wrote:
Obyrn in the Shadespire game has gone from a loud, boisteeous warrior to a stone cold, silent killer on his fourth reforging.

So if he isnt golem, he must be close.


Maybe. He may have changed from exposure to constant battle and death. The writer guy on today's stream said something to this effect about stormcast. Context being that he thought it made them interesting that being made a stormcast is a Hotel California type deal.
   
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I'll love for a chamber with Warmachines in AoS.

Many units that in old Fantasy where warmachine-hunters have lost his role in AoS, normally fast skirmish cavalry, etc... If Warmachines come back in full glory they will have again a place.

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Come to think of it, have we gotten a single new war machine since AoS launched?

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