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2009/07/14 21:11:28
Subject: Top tier armys in 5th edition.
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Twisted Trueborn with Blaster
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Old stuff.
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2009/07/14 21:20:14
Subject: Top tier armys in 5th edition.
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Foolproof Falcon Pilot
Somewhere in the unknown universe.
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Black templars get to re-roll all hits in close combat. They also get to go to ground and jump right back up when you're done shooting at them. They then get a free move forward. their crusaders are immune to lances.
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Manchu wrote:Agamemnon2 wrote:
Congratulations, that was the stupidest remark the entire wargaming community has managed to produce in a long, long time.
Congratulations, your dismissive and conclusory commentary has provided nothing to this discussion or the wider community on whose behalf you arrogantly presume to speak nor does it engage in any meaningful way the remark it lamely targets. But you did manage to gain experience points toward your next level of internet tough guy.
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2009/07/14 21:22:37
Subject: Top tier armys in 5th edition.
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Twisted Trueborn with Blaster
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Exarch_Nektel wrote: their crusaders are immune to lances.
Am sure the upgrades called "blessed hull" or something along those lines.
So what builds are there for BT's?.
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2009/07/14 21:25:46
Subject: Top tier armys in 5th edition.
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Foolproof Falcon Pilot
Somewhere in the unknown universe.
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There is the Mechanized build.
There is the SM swarm (you can't possibly take them all down at once).
But more than overall builds for templars, there is a goal: get into close combat.
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Manchu wrote:Agamemnon2 wrote:
Congratulations, that was the stupidest remark the entire wargaming community has managed to produce in a long, long time.
Congratulations, your dismissive and conclusory commentary has provided nothing to this discussion or the wider community on whose behalf you arrogantly presume to speak nor does it engage in any meaningful way the remark it lamely targets. But you did manage to gain experience points toward your next level of internet tough guy.
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2009/07/14 21:26:51
Subject: Top tier armys in 5th edition.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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It's back, again? Answer is still Orcs, CSM, Chaos Daemons, with IG as a strong prospect that will join the top 3 if it can have a good showing at the 'Ard boyz and Big Waaagh/Necro.
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All in all, fact is that Warhammer 40K has never been as balanced as it is now, and codex releases have never been as interesting as they are now (new units and vehicles and tons of new special rules/strategies each release -- not just the same old crap with a few changes in statlines and points costs).
-Therion
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New Codexia's Finest Hour - my fluff about the change between codexes, roughly novel length. |
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2009/07/14 21:26:59
Subject: Top tier armys in 5th edition.
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Twisted Trueborn with Blaster
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Exarch_Nektel wrote:There is the Mechanized build.
There is the SM swarm (you can't possibly take them all down at once).
But more than overall builds for templars, there is a goal: get into close combat.
Thanks,i will add them!
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2009/07/14 21:31:50
Subject: Re:Top tier armys in 5th edition.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The cool aid drinking anti-orkists will not accept the results of this poll when the obvious winner will be Orks. Get ready for it.
GG
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2009/07/14 21:40:00
Subject: Re:Top tier armys in 5th edition.
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Twisted Trueborn with Blaster
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generalgrog wrote:The cool aid drinking anti-orkists will not accept the results of this poll when the obvious winner will be Orks. Get ready for it.
GG
Well yeah,it is based on peoples opinions after all 
I would rather have a poll on here then huge ego'd power gaming vets flaming each other,although it would be rather amusing   .
Inb4PowerGamingVetzFlameMe!
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2009/07/14 21:49:40
Subject: Top tier armys in 5th edition.
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Wolf Guard Bodyguard in Terminator Armor
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Space Wolf Land Raider spam is pretty damn effective. cheap assaulty units inside land raiders with killy characters? most people cant stop them from hitting their lines and wrecking face.
EDIT* not top tier, but definately worth a mention
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2009/07/14 21:50:17
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2009/07/14 21:55:23
Subject: Top tier armys in 5th edition.
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Twisted Trueborn with Blaster
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Demogerg wrote:Space Wolf Land Raider spam is pretty damn effective. cheap assaulty units inside land raiders with killy characters? most people cant stop them from hitting their lines and wrecking face.
EDIT* not top tier, but definately worth a mention
It doesn't matter if it's not top tier aslong as it's a build then i will add it,thank you!
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2009/07/14 22:03:59
Subject: Top tier armys in 5th edition.
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Grisly Ghost Ark Driver
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For Necrons, I would say Roadblock. Three Monoliths is the way to go in 5th edition. 2k and over at least.
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Falcon Punch!
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2009/07/14 22:10:18
Subject: Top tier armys in 5th edition.
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Twisted Trueborn with Blaster
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extrenm(54) wrote:For Necrons, I would say Roadblock. Three Monoliths is the way to go in 5th edition. 2k and over at least.
Yeah got them already,and i agree my friend players a similar thing for 1500 pts with 2 liths.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Bump...feel free to vote!
It's close between guard and orks.
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2009/07/15 10:33:56
Subject: Re:Top tier armys in 5th edition.
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Twisted Trueborn with Blaster
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;_;...
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2009/07/15 10:50:34
Subject: Re:Top tier armys in 5th edition.
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Deadshot Weapon Moderati
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I would have to say that a balanced guard army is actually better then most of the talked about power lists. We hear Tank heavy, mech vets and 9 valk's but a balanced approach gives more things problems then the proposed guard "power lists". Just saying should be up there.
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2009/07/15 12:54:56
Subject: Top tier armys in 5th edition.
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Foolproof Falcon Pilot
Somewhere in the unknown universe.
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You missed Eldar Gunline.
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Manchu wrote:Agamemnon2 wrote:
Congratulations, that was the stupidest remark the entire wargaming community has managed to produce in a long, long time.
Congratulations, your dismissive and conclusory commentary has provided nothing to this discussion or the wider community on whose behalf you arrogantly presume to speak nor does it engage in any meaningful way the remark it lamely targets. But you did manage to gain experience points toward your next level of internet tough guy.
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2009/07/15 13:39:18
Subject: Top tier armys in 5th edition.
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Twisted Trueborn with Blaster
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Exarch_Nektel wrote:You missed Eldar Gunline.
I didn't miss it,you missed it
Anyways i added it.
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2009/07/15 14:02:27
Subject: Re:Top tier armys in 5th edition.
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Fixture of Dakka
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I think you forgot to add the gunline Tau. Fish of Fury doesn't work anymore, ninja tau was a stupid idea from the get go, and static gunline is where Tau absolutely dominate in a good player's hands who can read deployment possiblities pre-game.
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2009/07/15 14:15:08
Subject: Re:Top tier armys in 5th edition.
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Foolproof Falcon Pilot
Somewhere in the unknown universe.
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Dashofpepper wrote:I think you forgot to add the gunline Tau. Fish of Fury doesn't work anymore, ninja tau was a stupid idea from the get go, and static gunline is where Tau absolutely dominate in a good player's hands who can read deployment possiblities pre-game.
fish of Fury works extremely well as Eldar.
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Manchu wrote:Agamemnon2 wrote:
Congratulations, that was the stupidest remark the entire wargaming community has managed to produce in a long, long time.
Congratulations, your dismissive and conclusory commentary has provided nothing to this discussion or the wider community on whose behalf you arrogantly presume to speak nor does it engage in any meaningful way the remark it lamely targets. But you did manage to gain experience points toward your next level of internet tough guy.
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2009/07/15 14:17:55
Subject: Re:Top tier armys in 5th edition.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Everything except Kroot Merc's is competitive in the right hands and the right build.
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2009/07/15 14:21:35
Subject: Top tier armys in 5th edition.
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Well, some IG variants are eventually tier 1.
I'm especially interested to see the performance of Air Cav.
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Former moderator 40kOnline
Lanchester's square law - please obey in list building!
Illumini: "And thank you for not finishing your post with a "" I'm sorry, but after 7200 's that has to be the most annoying sign-off ever."
Armies: Eldar, Necrons, Blood Angels, Grey Knights; World Eaters (30k); Bloodbound; Cryx, Circle, Cyriss |
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2009/07/15 15:43:52
Subject: Re:Top tier armys in 5th edition.
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Been Around the Block
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Toughest all round army I've seen is Eldar jet bike council. fortune council on bikes is ultra cheese.
The new IG is pretty tough too.
Vanilla marines have some great stuff.
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2009/07/15 16:08:34
Subject: Top tier armys in 5th edition.
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Thunderhawk Pilot Dropping From Orbit
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Its funny that if you look at space marines, all the good builds, are using the ablitilys of Special Characters, aint there any reasonably good torny builds, without special characters for marines.
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2009/07/15 16:14:45
Subject: Top tier armys in 5th edition.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Xav wrote:Its funny that if you look at space marines, all the good builds, are using the ablitilys of Special Characters, aint there any reasonably good torny builds, without special characters for marines.
That's pretty much by design. The characters are used to unlock alternate FOC selections and grant special abilities. Orks, Dark Angels, and I think Eldar are like that too. IG as well to some extent.
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2009/07/15 16:36:47
Subject: Top tier armys in 5th edition.
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Foolproof Falcon Pilot
Somewhere in the unknown universe.
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The Green Git wrote:Xav wrote:Its funny that if you look at space marines, all the good builds, are using the ablitilys of Special Characters, aint there any reasonably good torny builds, without special characters for marines.
That's pretty much by design. The characters are used to unlock alternate FOC selections and grant special abilities. Orks, Dark Angels, and I think Eldar are like that too. IG as well to some extent.
Eldar are kinda like that. If you have a certain configuration of a wraithguard squad, it counts as troops instead of Elites.
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Manchu wrote:Agamemnon2 wrote:
Congratulations, that was the stupidest remark the entire wargaming community has managed to produce in a long, long time.
Congratulations, your dismissive and conclusory commentary has provided nothing to this discussion or the wider community on whose behalf you arrogantly presume to speak nor does it engage in any meaningful way the remark it lamely targets. But you did manage to gain experience points toward your next level of internet tough guy.
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2009/07/15 17:08:05
Subject: Top tier armys in 5th edition.
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Xav wrote:Its funny that if you look at space marines, all the good builds, are using the ablitilys of Special Characters, aint there any reasonably good torny builds, without special characters for marines.
I found that special characters are not required.
I usually field a Librarian leading some Termies. (I won three RTTs in a row with a foot slogging army facing Nids, Orks, and whatnot.)
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Former moderator 40kOnline
Lanchester's square law - please obey in list building!
Illumini: "And thank you for not finishing your post with a "" I'm sorry, but after 7200 's that has to be the most annoying sign-off ever."
Armies: Eldar, Necrons, Blood Angels, Grey Knights; World Eaters (30k); Bloodbound; Cryx, Circle, Cyriss |
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2009/07/15 17:19:53
Subject: Top tier armys in 5th edition.
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Sinewy Scourge
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You forgot Vulkan Melta Spam. I've won two RTT's, placed first in a 'ard Boys 1st round, and been playing in the top 3 tables of 3 indy GT's on the second day with it.
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Salamander Marines 65-12-13
Dark Eldar Wych Cult 4-1-0
Dark Eldar Kabal 36-10-4
2010 Indy GT Tournament Record: 11-6-3
Golden Ticket Winner with Dark Eldar
Timmah wrote:Best way to use lysander:
Set in your storage bin, pick up vulkan model, place in list.
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2009/07/15 17:31:35
Subject: Top tier armys in 5th edition.
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Umber Guard
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So I see Ork's are winning. Which build is the most filled with win?
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Jamora: Successful Trades: 12
With: Vitruvian XVII, LakotaWolf(2), Kingmanhighborn, hawkeye, syypher, Jhall, mobirds4all, Wandre, Buckero0, bucheonman, Mafty
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2009/07/15 17:37:10
Subject: Top tier armys in 5th edition.
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Fixture of Dakka
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You missed a few:
Battlewagon orks
Kult of Speed orks
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2009/07/15 19:04:43
Subject: Re:Top tier armys in 5th edition.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Getting my broom incase there is shenanigans.
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I think the IG needs to be tested first before we really know where it stacks up.
Until then it is all theory.
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2009/07/15 20:07:24
Subject: Top tier armys in 5th edition.
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Twisted Trueborn with Blaster
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Redbeard wrote:You missed a few:
Battlewagon orks
Kult of Speed orks
I will add them.
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Started my Salamanders army 
