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Probably 2-3 weeks of releases left after this next one. Blight Drone, Plagueburst Crawler, and Blight Hauler are likely each a week, with the two smaller ones combined with Plague Marines and Poxwalkers, and a clampack with each.

Matt said £15 for the Blightspawn.

PS: I'm itching to built a Plague Marine/character with spear and shied and antler helmet. What to use him as? Codex CSM Sorc? Tallyman?

Im really excited for these new releases. honestly cant wait for the full plague marine squad

zamerion wrote:
So, nurgle eldars, nurgle orks, and nurgle necrones now are possible..

Also, It is interesting the mention to necromunda.. Zombie band rules?

Nurgle...Necrons...

Please tell me that's a misunderstanding, because that is idiotic.
How does one corrupt a race of machines that have no souls and who have been established to be anathema to the warp?
What next, necron psykers? C'tan being a type of demon?
Necrons using the warp or webway...oh wait.


Orks I understand, because whilst they do have inherent resistance towards corruption, they are still organic, still have a connection to the warp, and there is a precedence for demonic corruption (some 8 years ago there was an article about converting orks to be mutated, so GW did play with that concept before)

Likewise, chaos Eldar are certainly theoretically possible due to the close connection to the warp, not to mention their only surviving goddess is in the possession of Nurgle, so its likely that they either join him to get close to her, or join him to escape Slaanesh.

But chaos necrons? That's just stupid. I know that chaos androids were proto-necrons, but that was a different thing back then.

Chaos infecting machines is not new nor "idiotic", it is 40k fluff since its beginning. Like possessed tanks, weapons, buildings and artifacts. Chaos deities have no problem infecting them

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

zamerion wrote:
So, nurgle eldars, nurgle orks, and nurgle necrones now are possible..

Also, It is interesting the mention to necromunda.. Zombie band rules?

Nurgle...Necrons...

Please tell me that's a misunderstanding, because that is idiotic.
How does one corrupt a race of machines that have no souls and who have been established to be anathema to the warp?
What next, necron psykers? C'tan being a type of demon?
Necrons using the warp or webway...oh wait.


Orks I understand, because whilst they do have inherent resistance towards corruption, they are still organic, still have a connection to the warp, and there is a precedence for demonic corruption (some 8 years ago there was an article about converting orks to be mutated, so GW did play with that concept before)

Likewise, chaos Eldar are certainly theoretically possible due to the close connection to the warp, not to mention their only surviving goddess is in the possession of Nurgle, so its likely that they either join him to get close to her, or join him to escape Slaanesh.

But chaos necrons? That's just stupid. I know that chaos androids were proto-necrons, but that was a different thing back then.

Okay.

Thommy H wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

zamerion wrote:
So, nurgle eldars, nurgle orks, and nurgle necrones now are possible..

Also, It is interesting the mention to necromunda.. Zombie band rules?

Nurgle...Necrons...

Please tell me that's a misunderstanding, because that is idiotic.
How does one corrupt a race of machines that have no souls and who have been established to be anathema to the warp?
What next, necron psykers? C'tan being a type of demon?
Necrons using the warp or webway...oh wait.


Orks I understand, because whilst they do have inherent resistance towards corruption, they are still organic, still have a connection to the warp, and there is a precedence for demonic corruption (some 8 years ago there was an article about converting orks to be mutated, so GW did play with that concept before)

Likewise, chaos Eldar are certainly theoretically possible due to the close connection to the warp, not to mention their only surviving goddess is in the possession of Nurgle, so its likely that they either join him to get close to her, or join him to escape Slaanesh.

But chaos necrons? That's just stupid. I know that chaos androids were proto-necrons, but that was a different thing back then.

Okay.

You mean the vehicles created by humans, a psychic race? Those vehicles? With a history of demons infecting their machine spirit, probably due to them being created by humans and having a psychic imprint on them? Because those aren't the same as alien machines with no connection to the warp, who have been established to have strong anti demon counter measures.


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Warhams-77 wrote:
Chaos infecting machines is not new nor "idiotic", it is 40k fluff since its beginning. Like possessed tanks, weapons, buildings and artifacts. Chaos deities have no problem infecting them

And they all had something in common - they were created by humans, a psychic race. Chaos corrupting necrons fly in the face of necrons being an antithesis to the warp, the supreme anti-warp presence in the galaxy. Now GK are more incorruptible than necrons, because xenos can never out do the imperium at anything

Like, Tau can't be possessed / hard to possess due to the lack of or weakened warp presence, Blanks are untouchable due to the lack of a soul, but necrons, who have no soul, warp presence, and have been established to have null field tech can just fall sick from one of Nurgle's colds? How is that consistent?

Can someone please explain to me why the Plaguereaper costs 30points? It is double the cost of a Thunder hammer and only gives +2 Strength instead of doubling it like the TH. The only thing the Plaguereaper gains is not having a -1 to hit and being a plague weapon.

However 30pts vs 16pts seems an insane points difference.

oh man, let's just be grateful that nurglecrons aren't actually in the game...you'd never be able to kill the bloody things!

So not so much Chaos Necrons as rusty Necrons...

broxus wrote:
Can someone please explain to me why the Plaguereaper costs 30points? It is double the cost of a Thunder hammer and only gives +2 Strength instead of doubling it like the TH. The only thing the Plaguereaper gains is not having a -1 to hit and being a plague weapon.

However 30pts vs 16pts seems an insane points difference.

Hmm I dunno. -1 to hit is pretty signficant on a D6. I mean, nurgle lords are 2+ WS / 83%, right? So with -1 to hit it drops to 66% chance to hit. That's a bit of hit to accuracy. Not to mention that plague weapon grants rerolls to rolls of a 1; iirc, so against T3 targets you are pretty much wounding everytime you hit. (Lords are S4, right? So that's S6, which meets the 2+ to wound requirement)
I can see how a 14pt difference can be fair in that regard, but its something that has to be field tested.

We're not talking about Nurgle-worshipping or possessed Necrons. Were talking about infected Necrons. If you want to take umbrage at non-psychic and non-organic things being damaged by and carrying plagues and pestilences, that's fine, but I have some IRL scary news...

EDIT: But we shouldn't be talking that anyway. NEW TOYS! NEW TOYS!

beast_gts wrote:

Spoiler:

Blighted Resurrection
The Pallid Hand are ambushed by overwhelming Necron forces from the Novokh Dynasty amidst the ruins of Hollowfall. During a fighting retreat, Mortarion’s sons infect a number of Necron Warriors with Ferric Blight. Phasing out, the android warriors bear the deadly contagion back to the stasis crypts of their tomb world, beginning an epidemic of catastrophic proportions.

Spoiler:

2ND PLAGUE COMPANY
The 2nd Plague Company favours mechanised assaults, and boasts huge formations of lumbering battle tanks. Its warriors bear the Ferric Blight, which speckles their armour and vehicles with crawling rust that can swiftly infest the foe.

So not so much Chaos Necrons as rusty Necrons...

Ok, that's much better than what I was dreading. A simple contagion that affects the necrons' metal is a lot more logical than necrons sprouting tentacles, coughing up pus, going nuts and shouting "we kapchurred eet fur kaos"
It's still kind of odd because you'd think the necrons would hit it with a null field or something, but its passable.


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nfe wrote:
We're not talking about Nurgle-worshipping or possessed Necrons. Were talking about infected Necrons. If you want to take umbrage at non-psychic and non-organic things being damaged by and carrying plagues and pestilences, that's fine, but I have some IRL scary news...

Aren't nurgle's diseases demonic in nature though? I mean, we're talking less black death and more satan in bacterial form, right?

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

broxus wrote:
Can someone please explain to me why the Plaguereaper costs 30points? It is double the cost of a Thunder hammer and only gives +2 Strength instead of doubling it like the TH. The only thing the Plaguereaper gains is not having a -1 to hit and being a plague weapon.

However 30pts vs 16pts seems an insane points difference.

Hmm I dunno. -1 to hit is pretty signficant on a D6. I mean, nurgle lords are 2+ WS / 83%, right? So with -1 to hit it drops to 66% chance to hit. That's a bit of hit to accuracy. Not to mention that plague weapon grants rerolls to rolls of a 1; iirc, so against T3 targets you are pretty much wounding everytime you hit. (Lords are S4, right? So that's S6, which meets the 2+ to wound requirement)
I can see how a 14pt difference can be fair in that regard, but its something that has to be field tested.

I don't know because being STR 8 is a huge deal in this game. That alone would offset the -1 to it. The Dameonic axe vs the hellforged sword cost the same on the deamon prince. Seems to be expensive or no reason.

It doesn't really offset it though. More of a sidestep. Yes, you hit harder, but you have to hit first. Its a fair trade off. I can see the plague reaper being a more reliable weapon against low toughness targets, as S8 is the same as S6 against T3, except with the plaguereaper you'll hit more often and you get a reroll to wound, increasing the chance of dealing damage.

The Thunder Hammer is probably a better all rounder though, due to the inherently high s value.

The thing about the reroll to wound abilities is that they are best on weapons that can reliably proc them. So the reaper's plague weapon buff is really efficient against T3, somewhat efficient against T4 and 5, but a waste of points on anything higher.

In the fluff, Mortarion >> Perturbo. And Death Guard beat the Iron Warriors.

From the WoS comments

The white colour scheme is much better, but the minis are still heinous. Shame.

Well, far be it from me to begrudge you your personal opinion there Elbows

...personally though, I love, as far as I can tell so far, everything about those blightlords...I think they nailed it...they look perfectly death guard to me, and they're all oozing character (and probably several other far more unpleasant things )

Agreed. The standouts are definitely the smiling guy and the fly one.

The guy with the gak coming out of his eye legitimately grosses me out. That's some pretty good work.

Too goofy looking for me. They are all over the place =/

broxus wrote:
Can someone please explain to me why the Plaguereaper costs 30points? It is double the cost of a Thunder hammer and only gives +2 Strength instead of doubling it like the TH. The only thing the Plaguereaper gains is not having a -1 to hit and being a plague weapon.

However 30pts vs 16pts seems an insane points difference.

Probably a little bit much depending how you use the weapons.

PR
4 * .833 * .777 = 2.6

TH vs T4
4 * .666 * .833 = 2.2

TH vs T5
4 * .666 * .666 = 1.8

Oh boy... why couldn't Typhus had this pose in his miniature? Maybe a bit static but... he is a Death Guard, he should be.

Yep, that would have been a good Typhus choice. Unfortunately they went "Dancing with the Stars" on him. I think it's not a big deal at all though, since the Deathshroud(?) guys are super easy conversions to a new Typhus...done.

I'd be annoyed with the new awful DG fluff but I am happy that after all these years, Abaddon can retire as the galaxy's most powerful failure and maybe write that book. Mortarian has been built up to be the new Imperial whipping boy for sure. Otherwise, they wouldn't have gone through the effort to display his power and ability to create plague mcguffins against xenos and non-important chapters.

Prepare for GW to run an Imperial primarch train on Mortarian soon.

That "Green Death" story ork blurb is copy paste from the 6th edition codex. And they weren't nurgle worshippers. They were Ork wendigos basically, who were eating all the dead bodies after battle. Morty shows up, and all the Bloated fattened orkz exploded into nurglings.

So no. No Chaos worshipping Necrons and no Chaos worshipping Orkz... Relax people.

My biggest take away was the Morty vs Perturabo blurb, especially considering they went out of their way in the CSM Obliterator description to state they had worked together to perfect the Obliterator technovirus (which I always head-cannoned anyways) .

They are Chaos, theres no reason why they can't work one time and kill each other in other situation.

these guys look pretty monopose.

Shame

Can we edit the title from Foulspawn to Foul Blightspawn. I saw it and went rummaging through a number of pages hoping to see the Daemon Prince from 2nd Ed only to find out you were talking about Blightspawn. Just thinking of avoiding dashing the hopes of any other long in the tooth disciples of Nurgle.

I did the same!