Toughest Primarch

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**Lord-Loss**

So in a 1v1 fight which primarch would win, my moneys on Angron. He's one crazy son of a bitch and has a very short temper.

EDIT: This is Pre-heresy so half the primarchs aint drugged up, im looking at you Fulgrim or dead.

**Shadowbrand**

One on One? Angorn by far.

He's a Daemon Prince and had the most badass upbringing aside from Lion and Russ.

**Lord-Loss**

Opps i should have included in the OP that I meant pre-heresy. So that way everyone's alive

**Shadowbrand**

Money's still on him.

Lordloss are we talking a Cage match or all out gun's and stuff?

I just see Angorn wearing a wrestler's belt.

**Lord-Loss**

Well a fight like kinda Ferrus Manus and Fulgrim, they were dueling for like a whole day I think.

Primarchs in full battle gear etc

**Shadowbrand**

Ahh.

**metallifan**

Horus.

He DID (practically) kill the Emperor after all...

**Shadowbrand**

I forgot all about Horus >.<.

Well Angorn still for me, can't change my mind now

**metallifan**

...You forgot about Hous? about THE Poster-Child Primarch for the Pre-Heresy Era and the Heresy itself? YEEEESH. *Hands Shadowbrand a gun* Here. His name is Pistol Pete. He's your friend. Just put him against your temple and pull that trigger there.

**Sanguine Sympathy**

Sanguinius, the only reason he got beat by horus was because horus was mad with power that wasn't his. Even Horus said, pre-heresy, that Sanguinius should have been warmaster.

**Lord-Loss**

Its not about who was Warmaster its about who could crack the most skulls lol

**Shelegelah**

Hmmm... I wish I could say Sanguinius, seeing as he's my favorite primarch, but I'd also have to say Horus. Either that or Fulgrim.

**Sanchez01**

No one said Russ yet?

My money is on his drunken butt.

**Space_hoppo**

I remember reading in the Blood Angels book, Deus Sanguinius that Sanguinius was the best swords master every, of all time, and that no one could beat him in a sword fight. Dont forget Horus was an Evil chaos possessed practically a daemon in a space marine suit when he killed him.

**person person**

My votes for ANGRON!!!!! Maybe Sanguinius though.

**metallifan**

Space_hoppo wrote:I remember reading in the Blood Angels book, Deus Sanguinius that Sanguinius was the best swords master every, of all time, and that no one could beat him in a sword fight. Dont forget Horus was an Evil chaos possessed practically a daemon in a space marine suit when he killed him.

Then again so were the other Chaos Aligned Primarchs, save for Alpharius. But that's beside the point. Possessed Angry Horus was still Posessed Angry Horus. He was just Posessed and Angry

**Commisar Wolfie**

Russ all the way. crazy drunken space viking all the way

**Ironhide**

How would Alpharius/Omegon play into this? Are we counting them as one or two?

**Shelegelah**

Ah, the most confusing of Primarchs. If we're counting them as two, I change my vote to them.

**Sanchez01**

Really, just two of us vote for russ? The man who battled the Emperor for days? Really?

Russ! Russ! Russ!

**Demogerg**

Its a fight between Sangy and Russ.

Horus was the made the warmaster for his tactical genius, not for his fighting prowess. the dark gods pumped him up to fight the emprah.
Sangy was the best *swordsman but not necesarily the best fighter or the "toughest" primarch.

My money is on Russ.

**darkkt**

Alpharius wouldnt go head to head - ambushes all the way! But its gotta be Horus to take home the belt, crazy Angron a close second.

**EzeKK**

Toughest? Mortarion then Ferrus / Vulcan

Fastest = Fulgrim

Most Brutal = Angron and Russ

Tactical Genius = Horus & Rowboat & The Lion

Best Defensive Strategist = Perturabo & Rogal Dorn

Lighting Warfare = Khan & Corax & Konrad Curze

Best Duelist = Sanguinius & Fulgrim

Stealth = Alpharius & Omegon & Curze

Best convincer = Lorgar

PSYCHER = Maggy

**darkkt**

Oohh forgot Magnus the Red slapping down some hard core sorcery action take the steal.

**Lorgar's_Blessed**

How is Russ obviously not the one to win? Can anyone else go toe to toe with the Emperor like that with out external sources?
NOOOOPE! Sangy was great at SWORDSMANSHIP, but this is RUSS! He'd throw his spear at the boy and slam a shoulder to his nose so hard he'd cry blood for a week.

**crazykiwi**

you forget russ was one on one with the lion and took a beating (well they both did) but no clear winner

**Dakkadood**

Russ held his own against the Emperor until he got Pow-Fisted in the gut, Horus had the help of 4 gods and didn't last long enough.

**Sanchez01**

crazykiwi wrote:you forget russ was one on one with the lion and took a beating (well they both did) but no clear winner

true... but didn't Lion win with a sucker punch? or was that a fight with the champs?

**Thor665**

I'd love to vote Russ but I'd have to go for Magnus though, after all, one on one he was beating Russ until Morkai jumped into the mix. The guy's a super sized cyclops giant with magic, that has got to be a tough cookie to beat.

**Shadowbrand**

Horus lost us the war and I blame the Black Legion for the 5ed chaos codex.

I will use pistol pete to shoot Horus corpse and you, after all you did give me a gun. XD