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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/26 12:15:18
Subject: Beating an Old Horse: How many Troops do you take?
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Hanging Out with Russ until Wolftime
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Yes, I am sure it has been discussed before but lets talk about it again! Myself for some reason even in 1500 Point games do not like taking less than 4 or 5 units of troops. I always take the max 6 in 2000 Points if possible. I am actually building up a 1500 Ork Trukk list and am not sure weither to have 6 Trukk Mobs or 4 and Lootahs.
What about you DakkaDakka? What kind of Troop/Point Ratio do you have?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/26 12:33:32
Subject: Re:Beating an Old Horse: How many Troops do you take?
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One Canoptek Scarab in a Swarm
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Normally its around 3-4 in the standard 1500-2000 point games I play, however that is deathwing so points are rarther stretched as it is.
For my group the average is around 2 per 1000 points with the exception of the space marine player who has 3-4 at 1500 (thats his max)
Really I wish I could take more, however the points always escape me.
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I play: - 2000pt
Deathwing - 12-1500 pts and counting
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/26 12:36:28
Subject: Beating an Old Horse: How many Troops do you take?
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Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps
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for space marines, I take 1 tactical squad in a rhino per 500 points. (I don't play smaller than 1000 pts)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/26 13:09:03
Subject: Beating an Old Horse: How many Troops do you take?
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Araqiel
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Horst wrote:for space marines, I take 1 tactical squad in a rhino per 500 points.
Same for me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/26 13:24:08
Subject: Beating an Old Horse: How many Troops do you take?
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Killer Klaivex
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Troops are the mainstay of my army in every game. I take as many as is reasonable without weakening my other choices, so I have at least 4 at 1,500 pts.
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People are like dice, a certain Frenchman said that. You throw yourself in the direction of your own choosing. People are free because they can do that. Everyone's circumstances are different, but no matter how small the choice, at the very least, you can throw yourself. It's not chance or fate. It's the choice you made. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/26 13:53:39
Subject: Beating an Old Horse: How many Troops do you take?
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Fixture of Dakka
Chicago, Illinois
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1 per 500. Except if I play a Pedro list where Ill take 2 scouts and 2 Sternguard.
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If I lose it is because I had bad luck, if you win it is because you cheated. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/26 13:56:46
Subject: Re:Beating an Old Horse: How many Troops do you take?
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Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets
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With my 1750 Ork army, I take 5 troops. 4 squads of 30 boys and 1 squad of 29 grots.
With my 1500 Marine Bike army, I take 4 troops -- all bike squads and combat squad them for objective missions.
When I face people who only play 2 troop choices in a 1500 point objective game, I focus fire on the troops and greatly increase my odds of winning the game.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/26 14:01:33
Subject: Beating an Old Horse: How many Troops do you take?
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Wolf Guard Bodyguard in Terminator Armor
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1 per 750 here
and they are usually set up like this
1st HQ Ven dred
1st Troop Grey Hunters
2nd HQ Killy Battle Leader
2nd Troop Powerfisty Blood Claws
3rd HQ Killy Battle Leader
3rd Troop Powerfisty Blood Claws
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THE HORUS HERESY: Emprah: Hours, go reconquer the galaxy so there can be a new golden age. Horus: But I should be Emprah, bawwwwww! Emprah: Magnus, stop it with the sorcery. Magnus: But I know what's best, bawwwwww! Emprah: Horus, tell Russ to bring Magnus to me because I said so. Horus: Emprah wants you to kill Magnus because he said so. Russ: Fine. Emprah's always right. Plus Ole Red has already been denounced as a traitor and I never liked him anyway. Russ: You're about to die, cyclops! Magnus: O noes! Tzeentch, I choose you! Bawwwww! Russ: Ah well. Now to go kill Horus. Russ: Rowboat, how have you not been doing anything? Guilliman: . . . I've been writing a book. Russ: Sigh. Let's go. Guilliman: And I fought the Word Bearers! Horus: Oh shi--Spess Puppies a'comin? Abbadon: And the Ultramarines, sir. Horus: Who? Anyway, this looks bad. *enter Sanguinis* What are you doing here? Come to join me? Sanguinius: *throws self on Horus's power claws* Alas, I am undone! When you play Castlevania, remember me! *enter Emprah* Emprah: Horus! So my favorite son killed my favorite daughter! Horus: What about the Lion? Emprah: Never liked her. Horus: No one does. Now prepare to die! *mortally wounds Emprah*Emprah: Au contraire, you dick. *kills Horus* Dorn: Okay, now I just plug this into this and . . . okay, it works! Emprah? Hellooooo? Jonson: I did nothing! Guilliman: I did more nothing that you! Jonson: Nuh-uh. I was the most worthless! Guilliman: Have you read my book? Dorn: No one likes that book. Khan: C'mon guys. It's not that bad. Dorn: I guess not. Russ: You all suck. Ima go bring the Emprah back to life.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/26 14:02:51
Subject: Beating an Old Horse: How many Troops do you take?
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
Spreading the word of the Turtle Pie
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In my orks I take all 6. 2 Trukka mobs, 3 shoota mobs and 1 grots mob.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/26 14:08:06
Subject: Beating an Old Horse: How many Troops do you take?
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Hanging Out with Russ until Wolftime
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Demogerg wrote:1 per 750 here
and they are usually set up like this
1st HQ Ven dred
1st Troop Grey Hunters
2nd HQ Killy Battle Leader
2nd Troop Powerfisty Blood Claws
3rd HQ Killy Battle Leader
3rd Troop Powerfisty Blood Claws
A Battle leader? I I normally have a Ven Dread as my First HQ then have either a Rune Priest with a Drop Pod Grey Hunter Squad or a Wolf priest with a Drop Pod Blood Claw Squad or Blood Claws in a LRC. Never saw the use of Battle Leaders outside 4AC WGT Killydeathmaim.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/26 14:08:14
Subject: Beating an Old Horse: How many Troops do you take?
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Morphing Obliterator
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CSM player, so troops are expensive, but a real strength. I fill out 3 troops choices first - make them solid, strong, and usually special purpose. Always a 1ksons - (occasionally a squad of 18 of these walking down the map is great fun), normally 10 zerkers, and then its a toss up between all round Vanilla CSMs or Plauge marines (PMs are winning at the moment).
I then fill out the rest of the army, and occasionally go back to add 2 or 3 smaller, special purpose units. These are almost always Vanilla CSMs and/or lesser daemons.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/26 14:35:29
Subject: Re:Beating an Old Horse: How many Troops do you take?
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Sinewy Scourge
Murfreesboro, TN
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As mine are both very effective and fragile (dark eldar) I generally try to take at least 5 (4 are the bare minimum).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/26 15:11:37
Subject: Beating an Old Horse: How many Troops do you take?
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Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle
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Starting from 1500:
Minimum is three.
At 2000:
Minimum is four.
My 7 Cents.
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This is a little story about four people named Everybody, Somebody, Anybody, and Nobody.
There was an important job to be done and Everybody was sure that Somebody would do it.
Anybody could have done it, but Nobody did it.
Somebody got angry about that because it was Everybody's job.
Everybody thought that Anybody could do it, but Nobody realized that Everybody wouldn't do it.
It ended up that Everybody blamed Somebody when Nobody did what Anybody could have done.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/26 15:35:53
Subject: Beating an Old Horse: How many Troops do you take?
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1st Lieutenant
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1.5K I go for three usually, at 2K I take 4
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/26 15:46:38
Subject: Re:Beating an Old Horse: How many Troops do you take?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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For orks I always try and do at least 4 truck boyz units for my Mech Ork list even in a 1000 pnt game. I also usually field 1 warboss in addition to my KFF Mek so I'll have a truck or BW of nobz (depending on my remaining pnts) as a troop choice. Then I start thinking about toys.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/26 15:47:51
Subject: Beating an Old Horse: How many Troops do you take?
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Stalwart Tribune
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I take as many troops as is feasible for me to take. not too many, gotta have some heavy support in my armies. usually one or two per 500pts, plus whatever else will fit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/26 15:52:41
Subject: Beating an Old Horse: How many Troops do you take?
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Fresh-Faced New User
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1 troops per 500 pts, roughly. I play SoB.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/26 15:58:59
Subject: Beating an Old Horse: How many Troops do you take?
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Shrieking Guardian Jetbiker
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I usually aim for 1 for every 500 points or part thereof. If my Eldar could squeeze in a 5th though, they would.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/26 16:04:28
Subject: Beating an Old Horse: How many Troops do you take?
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Plastictrees
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Eldar: 2, sometimes a third at 2000+
Space Marines: 3
Daemons: 6
Chaos Space Marines: Usually about 5-6, though I have taken as many as 9
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/26 16:06:18
Subject: Beating an Old Horse: How many Troops do you take?
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Foolproof Falcon Pilot
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It depends on my Army:
Eldar, I run 3 at 1500-1750, 4 at 1850-2k
Dualwing, I run almost pure troops, minus my HQs
Orks, minimum 4 at 1500...usually more
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/26 16:06:53
Subject: Beating an Old Horse: How many Troops do you take?
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Wolf Guard Bodyguard in Terminator Armor
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Gwar! wrote:Demogerg wrote:1 per 750 here
and they are usually set up like this
1st HQ Ven dred
1st Troop Grey Hunters
2nd HQ Killy Battle Leader
2nd Troop Powerfisty Blood Claws
3rd HQ Killy Battle Leader
3rd Troop Powerfisty Blood Claws
A Battle leader? I I normally have a Ven Dread as my First HQ then have either a Rune Priest with a Drop Pod Grey Hunter Squad or a Wolf priest with a Drop Pod Blood Claw Squad or Blood Claws in a LRC. Never saw the use of Battle Leaders outside 4AC WGT Killydeathmaim.
Yea, run Battle leaders cheap, Frostblade, Stormshield nothing else. they rock face, WS5 S5 I5 with 5 power weapon attacks.
11 blood claws with 3 power fists, Battle leader with FB/ SS, Pack Leader with Thunderhammer in a LRC with Extra armor+ MM
605 points of awesomesmashface
do that X2 and use the rest of the points to play around with the GH squad, Ven Dread, Wolf Scouts, etc.
Also, I do not own any Drop Pods, and I dont like rhinos because you cant move, disembark, then assault with them.
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THE HORUS HERESY: Emprah: Hours, go reconquer the galaxy so there can be a new golden age. Horus: But I should be Emprah, bawwwwww! Emprah: Magnus, stop it with the sorcery. Magnus: But I know what's best, bawwwwww! Emprah: Horus, tell Russ to bring Magnus to me because I said so. Horus: Emprah wants you to kill Magnus because he said so. Russ: Fine. Emprah's always right. Plus Ole Red has already been denounced as a traitor and I never liked him anyway. Russ: You're about to die, cyclops! Magnus: O noes! Tzeentch, I choose you! Bawwwww! Russ: Ah well. Now to go kill Horus. Russ: Rowboat, how have you not been doing anything? Guilliman: . . . I've been writing a book. Russ: Sigh. Let's go. Guilliman: And I fought the Word Bearers! Horus: Oh shi--Spess Puppies a'comin? Abbadon: And the Ultramarines, sir. Horus: Who? Anyway, this looks bad. *enter Sanguinis* What are you doing here? Come to join me? Sanguinius: *throws self on Horus's power claws* Alas, I am undone! When you play Castlevania, remember me! *enter Emprah* Emprah: Horus! So my favorite son killed my favorite daughter! Horus: What about the Lion? Emprah: Never liked her. Horus: No one does. Now prepare to die! *mortally wounds Emprah*Emprah: Au contraire, you dick. *kills Horus* Dorn: Okay, now I just plug this into this and . . . okay, it works! Emprah? Hellooooo? Jonson: I did nothing! Guilliman: I did more nothing that you! Jonson: Nuh-uh. I was the most worthless! Guilliman: Have you read my book? Dorn: No one likes that book. Khan: C'mon guys. It's not that bad. Dorn: I guess not. Russ: You all suck. Ima go bring the Emprah back to life.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/26 16:24:36
Subject: Beating an Old Horse: How many Troops do you take?
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Dominar
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I think it depends greatly on which army you're playing, and by extension how good the troops choices are.
With my armies, for example:
IG: 3 in 2k pts
Chaos: 4-5 in 2k pts
Orks: 6 in 2k pts
Eldar: 2 in 2k pts
IG and Eldar have the transports and speed to protect small numbers of troops while the more specialized selections KILL DEATH MAIM.
Chaos and Orks have powerful enough basic troops to not lose out significantly by taking lots of them.
My 2 cents.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/26 16:28:14
Subject: Beating an Old Horse: How many Troops do you take?
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Brainy Zoanthrope
Chesapeake, VA / D.C. area
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I normally take six. i play tau and nids. I normally play games 1850-2200
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Tau 3000 paints base coated
Tyranids 16k - 75% painted
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/26 17:05:54
Subject: Beating an Old Horse: How many Troops do you take?
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Veteran Wolf Guard Squad Leader
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Really depends on what you are playing. I take enough troops for them to do what they are suppose to do. Objective capturing is secondary imo.
If your army sucks because you have a ton of bad troops, then you aren't going to win anyways.
I take troops for what they are in each list.
Tau - 1 firewarrior squad (cause you have to)
2 kroot squads for utility
Space Marines- depends on the army, usually 2 10x squads. They aren't great but they provide solid anti infantry fire. Any more than 3x squads up to 2k points is gimping your list usually.
Same thinking goes with most armies.
As far as orks, it doesn't really matter how many you take, your going to get beat by any decent army anyways.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/26 17:22:35
Subject: Beating an Old Horse: How many Troops do you take?
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Hanging Out with Russ until Wolftime
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Timmah wrote:As far as orks, it doesn't really matter how many you take, your going to get beat by any decent army anyways.
Lolwut? Orks are one of the best armies around atm.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/26 17:32:16
Subject: Beating an Old Horse: How many Troops do you take?
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Veteran Wolf Guard Squad Leader
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Gwar! wrote:Timmah wrote:As far as orks, it doesn't really matter how many you take, your going to get beat by any decent army anyways.
Lolwut? Orks are one of the best armies around atm.
Well at least you are good with rules Gwar!.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/26 17:38:34
Subject: Re:Beating an Old Horse: How many Troops do you take?
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
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*rolls around in the inflamatory goodness*
Im gonna go for 2-3 @ 1500pts for my imperial guard. But that could scale from 20 men to easily over 300men. Its subjective.
As a rule of thumb at 1500pt, I take three.. If I find myself two troop choices down mid-game I play to protect the third otherwise its buisness as usual.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/26 17:52:49
Subject: Beating an Old Horse: How many Troops do you take?
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Veteran Wolf Guard Squad Leader
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I just think that troops should contribute as much to my army as any other unit. They should not just be objective takers.
(Fire warriors are an exception because 1 squad is forced on you)
4+ troop choices aren't going to help you if you get tabled.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/26 17:56:33
Subject: Beating an Old Horse: How many Troops do you take?
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Hanging Out with Russ until Wolftime
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Timmah wrote:Gwar! wrote:Timmah wrote:As far as orks, it doesn't really matter how many you take, your going to get beat by any decent army anyways.
Lolwut? Orks are one of the best armies around atm.
Well at least you are good with rules Gwar!.
Huh? Since when did KFF meks, 30 Stron Boyz, Nob Bikers and Lootas suddenly become crap?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/26 18:03:54
Subject: Re:Beating an Old Horse: How many Troops do you take?
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Sneaky Striking Scorpion
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with my two armies I have to play them completely different......
Witchhunters......
.- I never take less than 3 troops as the basic sister is better then most units in the list
Eldar
- I never take more than 3 unless I am doing a spam list, as my troops are increadably weak until an aspect squad clears a path for them first.
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7000+ Aliatoc Eldar
3000+ DeamonHunters
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