Do you reroll cocked dice?

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**Major Malfunction**

Now I know this is not a rules question, but more of a "How Do You Play It" survey.

Do you reroll cocked dice? If a dice roll doesn't land flat, but instead is leaning on a piece of terrain, a base, etc. without landing flat on one side, do you reroll it?

**GiantKiller**

It is my practice to reroll any die that doesn't land perfectly flat.

I've also seen people use the "put another die on top of it and see if it stays on" rule for determining whether it's officially cocked and in need of a reroll.

-GK

**Khornholio**

GiantKiller wrote:It is my practice to reroll any die that doesn't land perfectly flat.

I've also seen people use the "put another die on top of it and see if it stays on" rule for determining whether it's officially cocked and in need of a reroll.

-GK

This is what I do if there is a question as to the flushness of the dice to the table. I also reroll if it goes on the floor.

**Sgt.Sunshine**

I reroll any dice that isn't flat. I haven't thought about not doing it....it just seemed like it should be done ._.

**Gwar!**

We re-roll any dice that lands funny and it is not clear what the result is. We also use the rule that if you miss the table it counts as an auto fail with no re-roll allowed.

**Sgt.Sunshine**

Oh in terms of it falling off the table I just reroll those as well.

**Ridcully**

I play that if it falls off the table you get to re-roll it. Lest the opponent's unit be literally hit with a frustrated d6 hits.

**GiantKiller**

Sgt.Sunshine wrote:Oh in terms of it falling off the table I just reroll those as well.

Same here.

-GK

**Thor665**

At our shop we play it exactly as Kornholio described. A die on top to determine if it is cocked, and if they go off the table it's a re-roll.

If we played auto miss on hitting the floor I'd need to develop a whole new die rolling style (I like it when the dice bounce, as my gambler's fallacy dictates that if they hit the table and stop without a good bouncing/rolling around it is somehow more likely to be a low number...maybe I should try this for my leadership rolls which i always seem to fail. Hmmm.)

**Drunkspleen**

We play that if dice hit the floor you are banished from the gaming group forever, never to play another game of 40k with us again.

Seriously, it's not hard to roll them on the table. People who hurl their dice are one of my pet peeves.

**willydstyle**

I think that having dice that go off the table auto-fail is a bit draconian. The best way to ensure that the dice are being random (as opposed to being manipulated in some way) is to give them a good, vigorous toss across the gaming surface. Sometimes, this means dice go off the table. I'd rather encourage fair rolling than discourage it.

**Gwar!**

willydstyle wrote:I think that having dice that go off the table auto-fail is a bit draconian. The best way to ensure that the dice are being random (as opposed to being manipulated in some way) is to give them a good, vigorous toss across the gaming surface. Sometimes, this means dice go off the table. I'd rather encourage fair rolling than discourage it.

Theres giving them a toss across the table and then there is giving them a toss across 4 tables and the floor.

**wuestenfux**

Yes, we always do in our monthly RTT's.

**Sgt.Sunshine**

Well yeah if they like hurl them in a slingshot against the table and send them flying then they're out of here, but if it's just like "Oh, a few rolled off my bad" then give the man/woman, most likely man as I have yet to see a female play 40k, his reroll.

**Zid**

I reroll if you cannot legally sit a dice on top of it without it falling

**RustyKnight**

I reroll anything not entirely flat and anything off the table.

**Lordhat**

I will reroll if the die is not flat, in accordance with how my opponent rerolls. Most of the time, if it is questionable at all people will ask if you agree that a die is cocked. I usually say you may reroll if you want as long as you always reroll in the same situation. That way it's their choice for the first one, and the rest are held to the same standard, including mine.

A related question: if rolling multiple d6 for a roll, E.G. Ld checks, if one is cocked do you/your group reroll both or just one?

**Sgt.Sunshine**

I'd reroll just the one that is cocked. If you reroll all the dice that you throw in groups it may eat more time as you'll have a higher chance of finding another cocked one and having to keep rerollin'.

**Lordhat**

Note that I wasn't asking about a single group of rolls, but rather a single roll that requires groups of dice: Ld Checks, Fall back distance, scatter, etc.

**Gwar!**

In the case of Ld tests etc we re-roll both dice.

Here is a question for all of you: Do cocked dice count towards the "you may only re-roll a dice once" rule?

**Sgt.Sunshine**

I know and while it may not occur as much I still choose to only reroll the cocked one only. It's really up to you and who you're playing with.

**Lordhat**

Gwar! wrote:

Here is a question for all of you: Do cocked dice count towards the "you may only re-roll a dice once" rule?

Nope. IMO if cocked dice were to be counted the rules would indicate such.

**Drunkspleen**

Sgt.Sunshine wrote:Well yeah if they like hurl them in a slingshot against the table and send them flying then they're out of here, but if it's just like "Oh, a few rolled off my bad" then give the man/woman, most likely man as I have yet to see a female play 40k, his reroll.

Maybe you just haven't been paying attention, or have been paying attention to the wrong things?

**Sgt.Sunshine**

Maybe, or perhaps it's due to not visiting game stores enough @_@

**Watsabi**

Khornholio wrote: I also reroll if it goes on the floor.

If I can't hit a 4x6 table, I'm rolling too wild. In my house, if it doesn't land on the table, it counts as a miss.

Oh, here's another dice rolling question. What about finding "Lucky" dice. Once my buddy desperately needed to make a save. So he picked up about a dozen dice and rolled them, then picked up the high rollers from that group and rolled them again. Then used the ones from that bunch to make the save. (Which he passed) I was like "OH HELL NO!!" Maybe i'm just superstitious but I made him roll the save again with different dice (which he made again) so it was cool after that. Now I know these dice aren't weighted but even the extruded dice can tend to be heavier on one side.

What do you guys think? How would you have handled it.

**Thor665**

Watsabi wrote:Oh, here's another dice rolling question. What about finding "Lucky" dice. Once my buddy desperately needed to make a save. So he picked up about a dozen dice and rolled them, then picked up the high rollers from that group and rolled them again. Then used the ones from that bunch to make the save. (Which he passed) I was like "OH HELL NO!!" Maybe i'm just superstitious but I made him roll the save again with different dice (which he made again) so it was cool after that. Now I know these dice aren't weighted but even the extruded dice can tend to be heavier on one side.

What do you guys think? How would you have handled it.

I try to control my personal gambler's fallacy - but usually don't feel the need to mess with other people's. I'd have no problem with someone wanting to use their 'lucky' die for any given roll. Locally I play a guy who always rolls dice that have just rolled a '1' because he feels it's less likely to then roll another '1'. It's just the reverse of what you described and in any case I'd have no problem with it.

**phantommaster**

Yes, is the simple answer to the thread question. But you mean is how to decide whether it is worthy of being cocked or not. I think.

**Polonius**

It really doesn't matter the standard used for determining if a die is cocked and should be re-rolled, as long as the standard is consistent. the dice stack test is a fine rule, and it seems fair.

Counting dice off the table as auto-fails is certainly a fun option, but it's not one that I'd really enjoy. It's one thing if you're always dropping dice, but most people lose one or two a game.

**Aduro**

I rather like my current system of if the dice lands on anything it's cocked. No argueing about if it's cocked enough.

**Zomro**

I reroll all cocked dice and any dice that fall off the table. Even more so, if I count out a certain number of dice for a roll (example, how many attacks my Orks are about to roll) and then pick them up, any that fall out of my hands I leave it on the table, regardless of result. Now, this usually only happens with those massive dice pools (40+ Ork attacks), but I feel that I should be consistent.