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The Storm Brothers chapter was originally much like any other chapter, with only two really significant things about them setting them apart from the rest. One was that the did not know where there genestock came from (which legion or chapter is their "parent") and two a specific role in the conflict of one of the black crusades. Which one is not known, but what took place is. An iron warriors fleet unknown to the imperium was headed on a course to ambush a weakened imperial fist group resupplying after fighting planetside. A Storm Brothers fleet in route to a nearby system managed to see the chaos fleet and attacked them warning, imperial forces nearby of there existence. The iron warriors were prevent from ambushing the imperial fists which surely would have been destroyed. This small action changed the future of the chapter forever. The surviving iron warriors fled to warp and returned to their warmaster with the news of their failure. The warmaster seethed with anger and for countless years in the warp planned his revenge on the chapter.
Many years later in the albion system the planet larenthos (home of the Storm Warriors) was destroyed when it's core exploded by a strange device from Iron warriors ship a sort distance from the planet. The chaos marine did not stay long, but to watch the world explode. Unknown to them was that the chapter did not occupy one planet in the system, but three. The homeworld, the planet of the training recruits and serfs, and the deathworld in which the scout brethren spent most of their time in training. When the world exploded (taking a full two thirds of the chapter, about 500 marines) the latter two worlds instantly became aware. Of the command only two commanders remained; the captain of the tenth company and his veteran sergeant. The Captain was overseeing the recruiting world, while the v. sergeant was training the scouts on the death world. the V. sergeant had perished that morning caught unawares by indigenous animals, the scouts were waiting at the landing outpost for pick up when they saw their home explode. the Captain having seen the destruction of the homeworld was filled with rage and sought to mobilise everyone left (scouts and all) to chase the chaos ship and seek revenge. On the planet with the captain, there was only one other "full" brother marine; brother minthras locked in the brig for insubordination. When the order of the captain came down, minthras was released and equipped for the attack on the chaos ship. Instead of joining the captain for the coming fight, minthras came up to him and slew him with his bolter saying that "He would not consign his brothers to death, but offer them a new life under his leadership". The scouts relieved that they were no longer about to commit the suicidal attack and trusting minthras honeyed words swore themselves to him. Minthras fearing the returning of the chaos fleet should they find out their mistake ordered that everything belonging to the chapter be loaded aboard the few ships they had left (as well as all the scouts and serfs on both worlds) and flee the system. The trip early on was ardous and tense, many close calls neary destroyed the little fleet, but eventually they found a small dead system to reorganize themselves.
Of the chapter their were only about two hundred and fifty scout brothers in various stages of training, and about as many chapter serfs and servitors. Of the full brothers only two Minthras and apothecary minoris brother dorian; an in training apothercary on the deathworld with the other scouts. minthras now Chapter master minthras, promoted the scouts closest to completion as well as those he found promising to places of leadership electing three captains, various sergeants, etc. these leaders picked their subordinates among the scouts until the whole of the new chapter was formed.
Shortly after the boon of finding the adrift ship of an expelled techmarine initate, the fleet found a ghostly space hulk and minthras decided it was to be their new home. Minthras set about clearing the barely infested hulk and with the help of the techmarine, rebuilt the amalgam's interior into ship worthy of housing the chapter. All the possessions of the chapter were brought aboard the ship, and organized. With a stable residence from the chapter, minthras continued to shape the chapter in to his dream.
first was the regimine of the scouts training. The new ethos ofthe chapter was loyalty and survival, first the chapter then the imperium. With the chapter direly short on resources and trained personnel, the apothecary and the techmarine were ordered to find promising candidates and train them in their respective fields. As for the short resources, Minthras ordered that all brothers and serfs would be trained in salvaging and minor repair, and that no matter the circumstance if something of value to the chapter was found it was to be recovered. Though it was said that violence with the imperium was to be avoided, if possible. This is the chapter at present.

pics to follow, comments and critiques always appreciated.


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The first squad of first company: squad Marik. This is one of the two prized squads of Captain Tylerion's first company, "The Pathfinders". Sergeant Marik is stubborn and independent as astartes go, he is fiercely violent when provoked and his ire isn't something taken lightly by his battle brothers. His hate for xenos; particularly tyranids and orks runs deep and is readily visible. This likely has to with the duty of the first company as those sent in to make the first beachhead and secure for the rest of the chapter's strike force. Being the first ones in, they are subjected to the worst and most deadly space has to offer. Some other companies consider the Pathfinders jovial carefree attitude to be odd, but it is simply a stress management mechanism and has served him well







comments and critiques always appreciated.

alright, i like the idea of the ruined chapter, maybe your scouts could be special ops gurillia fighters, personally i love apothercarys especially in the books they seem so cool

so are they a renegade chapter? or have different prioritys

do they have anylink with the iron warriors? gene seed story twist?

would they be more pirate raiding special operations rather than codex marine invation?

are you going to use sm ba da bt or sw codex rules?

sorry if its 21 Questions but i am curious and this does sound good

The white heads and hands remind me of mimes. Though I do like the fluff.

physcosamatic wrote:alright, i like the idea of the ruined chapter, maybe your scouts could be special ops gurillia fighters, personally i love apothercarys especially in the books they seem so cool

so are they a renegade chapter? or have different prioritys

do they have anylink with the iron warriors? gene seed story twist?

would they be more pirate raiding special operations rather than codex marine invation?

are you going to use sm ba da bt or sw codex rules?

sorry if its 21 Questions but i am curious and this does sound good

no worries, this is really what I had hoped for. No they are not a renegade chapter by normal standards, they are looked down upon by most other astartes chapters. they aren't hunted by the inquisiton, but the ordo hereticus does keep tabs on them as much as possible. The chapter has a contract with ordo xenos, working on retainer for the ordo as needed. They aren't seconded to the deathwatch (bad blood with other chapters), their proficiency at ship boarding and clearing is considered valuable by ordo xenos. Their payment usually consist of technologies, free pass for minor law breaking and general freedom of movement. No they aren't linked to the iron warrior other than that the iron warriors efffectively destroyed the original chapter, the chapter master has no qualm with them. Their geneseed is the chapter's original geneseed, though the have managed to get hold of other geneseed through dubious means. Most of the activities are in the realm of: stealing planets that are involved in major conficts (easier to steal from both sides while pretending to assist imperial forces), looting, and raiding ships in space (occupied and those adrift, including space hulks). As far as codices go, the majority of the chapter will follow the vanilla codex, while I will "dedicate" a company to each other marine codex. I know that i can't field codex and non-codex or non-codex/ other non-codex units in the same list, this is just a fluff thing so that i can switch codices as I see fit. I'll explain in greater detail later. I hope this answers your questions (if it doesn't let me know), thank you again for taking the time to check this out.

this is the rhino of squad marik, it is my first attempt at major scratch building. besides an assortment of bits this rhino is made from plasticard and the mk. 1 rhino sides.






comments and critiques always appreciated.

The second squad of first company: squad Hector. This is the other of the two prized squads of Captain Tylerion's first company, "The Pathfinders". Sergeant Hector is calm and thoughtful, considered by most to be the balance point for sergeant marik. Though he encounters the same obstacles and stress of his compatriot, he deals with it in other ways. Instead allowing his emotions to burst randomly, he focuses it into a cold hardened force. In battle he is a force of nature, this has earned him the name "Sverd" or sword.

Sgt Hector












comments and critiques always appreciated.

The captain of first company "The Pathfinders", Captain Tylerion "The Vain". Tylerion is the diplomat/spokesman for Minthras Ra and thus the chapter, acting as a go between with the chapter and external forces. His personal duties include managing contracts with the inquisition, treaties, and other business arrangements. His natural wit and abilities have led him to have a higher opinion of himself and a some what arrogant cavalier attitude. His command squad is comprised of the veteran brothers of his company as well as the infamous Apothecary "Mad" Zhivago.

Captain Tylerion


Command squad

Standard Bearer, Veteran Sargasso


Company Champion Velian


Apothecary "Mad" Zhivago


Veteran Menedragn



Veteran Aegis


*note all of the command squad and the captain have this design

Comments and critiques always welcome

OK, clearly, the hair is important, so what's the story behind the hair?

Regulations on grooming are non-existent in the chapter, the marines style their hair however they please. Also I'm a fan of wild hairdos, hehe.

wow the look really good nice improvement, can i say a tip with the fire on the shoulder pad is start with blazing orange, go over with fiery orange and finished with goldern yellow for a nice blendy look, and maybe whiten up the apothacary a bit tis your choice but hey there looking better

anywho any more storyline comming up too?

physcosamatic wrote:wow the look really good nice improvement, can i say a tip with the fire on the shoulder pad is start with blazing orange, go over with fiery orange and finished with goldern yellow for a nice blendy look, and maybe whiten up the apothacary a bit tis your choice but hey there looking better

anywho any more storyline comming up too?

Thank you very much for the advice, it is really appreciated. For the apothecary I'm want them to have bone colored armor, but I suppose it could be a bit to dark. More fluff is soon to follow, I'm trying to spread I'm trying to spread out posts so people who are viewing can have more time put in their C&C.


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Here is the command Rhino/Razorback of Captain Tylerion and his command squad. It is a fitted with extra armour made from plasticard and the old metal extra armour for the smaller rhinos. It is marked iconography depicts the role of the company as well as the successes of Capt. Tylerion himself. The blue wolf symbolizes the bond between the Space wolves and themselves as a result of when Captain Tylerion rescued a pack of Space Wolves in a life pod adrift in space. The black skull symbolizes the Relictors who have a trade relationship with the Storm Brothers as a result of xeno tech given to the relictors as a sign of friendship. The maltese cross symbolizes The black templars whose century old lost crusade ship was discovered by the captain and provide a wealth of technology to build up their forces. The fleur de lye represents the twenty neophyte sisters of battle intdoctrinated in the chapter as the foundation of the 2nd company (I have the fluff for this in short story form for those who are interested). The mural if the captain's face is just one of many examples of the captain's vanity.









Comments and critiques always welcome

first and foremost I would to apologize for not updating the blog in the last few day, I picked up the swine flu on sunday and I am still recovering. here is some new minis for you my first scout squad, sniper squad Arkon. Sgt Arkon and his sniper scouts are natives of the nightworld of Heln, a dark world covered in black chem clouds. Their specialties are infiltration and marksmanship which caused them to become trained in the role of snipers. Sniper scouts unlike regularly armed scouts will immediately become bearers of heavy weapons (not missile luanchers) when they are promoted to full brother, this in equivalent raises them to veteran status as only the most elite and trusted brothers are given access to the small cache of heavy weapons in the chapter. Like all scouts they live in a section of the hulk/fortress that borders between main body and the training ground. Each squad has their own territories in and out of the training ground, hosting war games with each other.

Sgt. Arkon



The Snipers


* the crescent moon is the squad symbol













two scouts are missing, it seems their pics have been eaten. I wil update with a pic of the full squad soon





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here is the whole squad

HAHAHAHA I love the Sororitas pin-up girl.

cool stuff

I like your latest models.

I think the freehand on the tank is inappropriate though!

Your models need a tad more awesome sauce, If you know what I mean.

Like something that makes you go OMFG THAT IS TOTALLY AWESOME!!!!!

so yeah...

DC

deadly chicken wrote:I like your latest models.

I think the freehand on the tank is inappropriate though!

Your models need a tad more awesome sauce, If you know what I mean.

Like something that makes you go OMFG THAT IS TOTALLY AWESOME!!!!!

so yeah...

DC

What doyou mean by inappropriate?

Um,

a bit of public indecency!!!!

on a model!!!!

AWESOME-SAUCE!!!!

DC

lol im so doing a naked pin up girl on my valkrie now :L free hand is nice verry anime style too. KEEP going matey

I have to commend you for getting an idea and sticking with it this far, however, i do have some critique.

The red is far too red/orange. It is too bright. Red pulls the eye away from other colors, try toning it down a little bit, and adding some hard highlights.
The paintjobs look sloppy. Your brush control looks fine, but I think you might overuse washes.
Your conversion work is good, though the hair could use a bit of detailing.
Your apoth could use a few white highlights. Right now he looks less white and more grey/desert camo.
Don't forget basing. Basing is important.

Canonness Rory wrote:I have to commend you for getting an idea and sticking with it this far, however, i do have some critique.

The red is far too red/orange. It is too bright. Red pulls the eye away from other colors, try toning it down a little bit, and adding some hard highlights.
The paintjobs look sloppy. Your brush control looks fine, but I think you might overuse washes.
Your conversion work is good, though the hair could use a bit of detailing.
Your apoth could use a few white highlights. Right now he looks less white and more grey/desert camo.
Don't forget basing. Basing is important.

Thank you very much for the critique, I appreciate you taking the time to give your input. As far ar the orange business, that's mostly me not turning down the flash when i take close in shot. The paint job is blood red one white primer so it lightens it just a little. yes I am very wash heavy with my minis, this is in part due to the fact that I am an inexperiencd painter. On the other hand I want the army to have a dingy-dirty look to them, it shows to me wheretheir priorities are and the grueling toil that perform on a daily basis. The apothecary is actually noT painted white, I used bleached bone because I think of it as a nuance that make the chapter alittle different. Yes basing is important, I'm still waiting on a couple things that I need to base them. I hope that clears a few things up, thank you again for you input. I'm going to definetly take your advice on the hair and highlight it a little more.

Not a whole lot wrong with being wash heavy. Just try and keep washes off white/fleshtones/hair.


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Also i have to disapprove of your sisters fluff. You can't just induct 20 sisters of battle into a space marine company. I really also don't approve of your pin-up SOB. not because it's inappropriate (it is, but so what?), but because it is a sister of battle, who, while not sworn to chastity, are pretty much saints, and would take offense to it. Especially if you have 20 of them in your 2nd company for no reason.

While i agree that neither would any normal chapter accept sororitas into the chapter, nor would any real sisters join another organization, this isn't a normal situation. Why the chapter would allow them in is simply that the are short on man-power and any talented help is good enough for them (to quite captain Tylerion, you wear power armor and carry a bolter; I don't see the difference). In the case of the sororitas; they were not fully trained sororitas when the chapter found them just early inductees that were still very early on in their training. their was no 2nd company before the sisters came into the chapter, so they aren't part of the company they are the company. The pin-up is an early illustration of the palatin-captain Alicia, the two have a relationship of sorts (Yes i understand space marines don't date or fall in love, the Chapter doctrine and mental programming is a lot different).

here is a link to the short story fluff for it:
http://www.writing.com/main/view_item/item_id/1583182-Storm-Brothers-The-Rewards-Of-Freedom


As far as innpropriate, it's an organization comprised immature self-serving hooligans, misfits and ne'er-do-wells. hehe.

Space marines don't date because their genetic modification makes their fiddly bits fizzle. Also, with all the training and combat a space marine (even a 'hooligan' space marine) goes through, their libido would be nothing. Ask any soldier in boot camp.

Furthermore, the ecclesiarchy/ordo hereticus wouldn't just allow you to abduct a bunch of sisters of battle and make them honorary space marines, not matter how untrained they were.

I agree.

the best you could do is use them as allies.....

DC

I have never read anywhere that a space marines are physically damaged during the transformation proces. What I have read is that psychologically any desire is removed from them (something not done in this chapter). As far as libido, I have been through army basic and deployed, if anything it just made it stronger. The sisters weren't abducted, their planet was being taken over by tyranids and Captain Tylerion just assisted them off the planet. If the ecclesiarchy knew anything about what happened on the planet the entire schola was likely just written off as a casualty. I know my fluff doesn't adhere to the norm, but the armies very concept was to be something that breaks normal rules through unlikely circumstances. I really hope I'm not upsetting you, I'm actually enjoying this debate.


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Because the Storm Brothers do not throw themselves into battle as constantly as other chapters often do, they do not usually suffer the kinds of severe casualties that would require one to be interned in a dreadnought sarcophagus. That being the case the techmarines of the chapter have retro-fitted them do that they maybe piloted as a vehicle by normal battle brothers. In addition to this modification, technical information gleaned from reverse engineering Tau battlesuits caused the techmarines to altered the shape of the dreadnoughts into something more humanoid and versatile. Instead of mounting weapons onto the arms themselves, they carry "rifle" versions. this allows them to quick change weapons during engagements to better adapt to the requirements of the mission(s) they take part in.

Where the dreadnought fall into in the chapter's organization is the 8th elite company, where all the "veteran" or elite corp of the chapter's marines found. As part of the 8th company, all dreadnoughts follow the company's tradition of wearing all black except for their helmets and arms which are red. In essence all dreadnoughts (except those few in the 9th company) are black in color.

This dreadnought represents a type of dreadnought called "siege dreadnought" (found in the imperial armour books. can't remember which one right now, will post the datasheet when I locate it). In games where IA aren't allowed i will play it as a dread equipped with DCCW/heavy flamer and Twin-linked heavy flamer.

This particular dreadnought's named is Melchoir (the name of the marine pilot is Icarus).

deadly chicken wrote:I agree.

the best you could do is use them as allies.....

DC

Thank you.

I have never read anywhere that a space marines are physically damaged during the transformation proces. What I have read is that psychologically any desire is removed from them (something not done in this chapter). As far as libido, I have been through army basic and deployed, if anything it just made it stronger.

You don't think that adding 19 organs to the human body, going through all those surgeries, getting pumped full of stimulants, and all those hormoes are going to severely damage the reproductive system?
The desire is both physically AND psychologically removed, just from becoming a space marine.
And as far as libido, yes, after you go through all that and get deployed, your libido is stronger because you've been deprived for so long. But during basic training, were you jacking off every day? were you concerned with women, or survival? Chances are it was survival, unless army basic has become so candy-ass that it doesn't cause any stress to you at all.

Canonness Rory wrote:

deadly chicken wrote:I agree.

the best you could do is use them as allies.....

DC

Thank you.

I have never read anywhere that a space marines are physically damaged during the transformation proces. What I have read is that psychologically any desire is removed from them (something not done in this chapter). As far as libido, I have been through army basic and deployed, if anything it just made it stronger.

You don't think that adding 19 organs to the human body, going through all those surgeries, getting pumped full of stimulants, and all those hormoes are going to severely damage the reproductive system?
The desire is both physically AND psychologically removed, just from becoming a space marine.
And as far as libido, yes, after you go through all that and get deployed, your libido is stronger because you've been deprived for so long. But during basic training, were you jacking off every day? were you concerned with women, or survival? Chances are it was survival, unless army basic has become so candy-ass that it doesn't cause any stress to you at all.

Why at best allies, who's going to say "No, bad marines. They're a migratory chapter so small they nearly exctinct, they don't have an effect either way on the imperium at large. I'm not saying it's normal or even correct, but that is what they choose to do.
yes, massive augmentation would seriously affect and probably damage the entire body. I would also like to remind all parties that this is a fictious surgical operation that is in no way plausible. Not all chapter's follow the same process, and there are many chapter's that have minor variants in the process. There is a divergence in the result even from identical methods, so I believe that it is possible for marines to retain this aspect of "normal human lifestyle" (which is an odd thing tosay in the grim darkness of the 41st millenia). Especially if the chapter doesn't do a majority of the brain washing that is the augmentation.

To be honest other than the normal idle fantasy my desire has never been so great that I felt an urgent daily necessity, but the general desire never went away. Yes when I experienced the terror of dying in real life it was the first thought on my mind, but I did think about all might hopes and dreams, and the people I felt strongly about (hilariously enough, one of those times the first thing I thought of was this moroccan belly dancer I had a little fling with).

I don't see this ever coming to a conclusion, but for better or worse I am enjoying this discourse. Thank you.

P.S. the army is definitely not candy ass.

ROFLMAO SM are big huge killers and sob are killer nuns with GUNS we can blame the tank driver for the idea, his helmet is soo sus >.> anywho you could like model counts as for the sisters of battle? some people on this site did it with the apothecary and others

well space marines cant retain human lifestyle because they are inducted at the age of 14-16 ish, only the best get in and from there on they kill meditate*pray* practice kill some more and die as honorable as they can for the emparor, funny enough i can hands down say most space marines are virgin? *fulgrim is not counted *

humans reproduce, some become slave workers a few become soldiers and march into the abyss of the imperial guards war and rare few survive the space marine test and become scouts *i didnt mention psykers and i dont realy want to get into everysigle human mutation and that ect...* so to sum it up, spacemarines are angles of death and sisters of battle are no different, GW just sexistly made them toughness and strength 3*whats with that?*

still waiting for some updates too peace

p.s if youuuu realy like the idea devilkin then go with it just people who are strictly by the books, will pull you up or say something.

also if you ever get the chance to read the INDEX ASTRATES book then that will explain everysingle detail about a codex spacemarine

thanks psycho, really that's what they are is counts as sisters; not any of a particular order. Most space marines have a very strict life style, if i remember correctly in a very old is of WD is said the ultramarines had an hour of personal time a day to themselves, Thankfully in my chapter that is not the case, no prayer (other than "please emperor let me get through this day" or meditation. They train (for several hours a day), do what ever additional duties are assigned to them, and whatever's left of the da is theirs to do as the please. I am in no way suggesting that any marine reproduce, but they can still have feelings toward the opposite sex. Ragnar had strong feeling for an inquisitor chick in the first omnibus, and had psychical relationship before he became a space marine.

psycho, I'll post some more stuff today.



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Chaplain Cyril, the youngest of the chapter's chaplain and the adjudant to the captains of sixth company. He is the most fervent of the chaplains, he adores battle and the celebrations that always follow. Friendly and outgoing he often found among his battle brothers keeping spirits high.

Chplains of the storm brothers are very different than their orthodox counter parts. Normal chaplains are concerned with purity of their chapter's souls and their ferver in battle. The storm brothers have no need of sanctity, the purpose of chaplains in the chapter is two fold. They are the recruiters, when the chapter comes to a world the chaplains go among the people and offer them a life among the stars; wealth, power, adventure (which isn't a lie). This is often appealing to the masses who toil without reward or thanks, and to young men and women who seek adventure. These people are tested, and are sent to train as marines or be inducted into the serf corps(more info on these guys to come later). The other responsibility of the chaplains is to maintain morale (not like comissars), they help keep the marines upbeat and generally have a good time.

physcosamatic wrote:
well space marines cant retain human lifestyle because they are inducted at the age of 14-16 ish, only the best get in and from there on they kill meditate*pray* practice kill some more and die as honorable as they can for the emparor, funny enough i can hands down say most space marines are virgin? *fulgrim is not counted *

humans reproduce, some become slave workers a few become soldiers and march into the abyss of the imperial guards war and rare few survive the space marine test and become scouts *i didnt mention psykers and i dont realy want to get into everysigle human mutation and that ect...* so to sum it up, spacemarines are angles of death and sisters of battle are no different, GW just sexistly made them toughness and strength 3*whats with that?*

10-14 actually. Not 14-16. The sisters of battle are different from space marines.

Why at best allies, who's going to say "No, bad marines. They're a migratory chapter so small they nearly exctinct, they don't have an effect either way on the imperium at large. I'm not saying it's normal or even correct, but that is what they choose to do.
yes, massive augmentation would seriously affect and probably damage the entire body. I would also like to remind all parties that this is a fictious surgical operation that is in no way plausible. Not all chapter's follow the same process, and there are many chapter's that have minor variants in the process. There is a divergence in the result even from identical methods, so I believe that it is possible for marines to retain this aspect of "normal human lifestyle" (which is an odd thing tosay in the grim darkness of the 41st millenia). Especially if the chapter doesn't do a majority of the brain washing that is the augmentation.

To be honest other than the normal idle fantasy my desire has never been so great that I felt an urgent daily necessity, but the general desire never went away. Yes when I experienced the terror of dying in real life it was the first thought on my mind, but I did think about all might hopes and dreams, and the people I felt strongly about (hilariously enough, one of those times the first thing I thought of was this moroccan belly dancer I had a little fling with).

I don't see this ever coming to a conclusion, but for better or worse I am enjoying this discourse. Thank you.

P.S. the army is definitely not candy ass.

First of all you have to explain why there were sisters of battle on a random agri-world that was of no note for the imperium. The presence of the sisters of battle means the presence of the inquisition, so there is no way you can just 'rescue' a bunch of them from a supposed training camp without the inquisition taking notice and demanding their return. Especially considering how your marine chapter and the ordo hereticus don't get along well.
The massive augmentation does not *damage* them, it changes them from human to space marine. Not all chapters do it exactly the same, but they all do it, and it is all necessary for the creation of space marines. Brainwashing is not an aspect of it, they simply lose the physical desire for anything sexual or romantic from their augmentation. They are almost a different species. The Horus Heresy novels mention this.
P.S. if you still had sex on the brain then Army Basic IS candy ass. I am a biology major, when the human body is subjected to stress for any period of time it loses all desire for sex. This is a physical change, no a mental one. Boot camp has long been famous for putting you through the necessary stress to lose that desire while you are there. It used to be so bad that there is a rumor that they put libido-reducing hormones in your food, the rumor is of course false. I've talked with Marines who confirmed this, then again, they were marines, and their basic is harder, so it could be that army basic has just become less stressful then it used to be.

The agriworld had a small schola, those fall under the ecceschiarch not the inquisition. In the grand scheme of the imperium worlds are taken all the time, not all lives, property and individual settlements can be taken into account. The reason the ordo herecticus doesn't harass them is because they fall under the protection of a faction of ordo xenos. I'd also like to say that part of the flavor of my army is that it is remniscent of the rogue trader marines. which if you look at how they describe them were barely reformed criminals/ne'er do wells that really had no limitations other that that they swore allegiance to the emperor and fought in his name. In the HH novels loken from the luna hounds definetly felt affection for the remebrancer, though he didn't come and profess love for her, he did care for her. Yes army basic is somewhat less stressful (mostly because they can't beat you anymore), but combat deployments are as stressful as ever. Frankly my cousin is a marine and that block can't hold two simultanous thought at once anyway. What I can tell you is that short of chemical treatment there is no way to remove desire. Like I've said before, I have experienced being within an inch of losing my and after the immediate shock was over and the adrenaline rush left guess what random thought popped into my head. I'm not saying I wasn't scared, but you never know what fear will do to you until it happens. I'm not saying as a biology major you are wrong, but you can't say for sure in every instance that is the case. I know what I have felt, that the only concrete truth I have.