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yakface wrote:This war agains the C'Tan weakened the Necrons overall so much they decided to go into stasis to avoid the vengeance of the Eldar (the C'Tan had killed the Old Ones, but not all their children).

yakface wrote:Oh, and the biggest rival of the Necrons is now actually the Altaoic (sp?) Craftworld. Apparently they are the only Eldar who stayed true on the original path to seek out and destroy Necron Tomb Worlds while the rest of the Eldar got all caught up and destroyed in their decadence and then the Fall. Altaoic rangers have traveled the galaxy far and wide over the millennia (ever since the Necrons went to sleep) to track down and destroy or hamper Tomb Worlds from reawakening.

yakface wrote:The Warp does seem to be something they hate, but I guess that doesn't necessarily mean they have the answer to canceling it out. I suppose if they did, they probably wouldn't hate/fear it so much, would they?

So Yakface, do you get an impression from the codex fluff that the Necrons now fear the Eldar? I always liked how it was the other way around (that the Necrons were an ancient enemy of Eldar myths that they were determined to keep asleep)

Anyone else thinking about mass abusing tremor staves?

I don't think they really fear the Eldar, they just didn't have the resources to engage them at the time. They did just fight gods and win, they were weakened and couldn't handle another war right after that, so they decided to sleep.

I must say, LessThanHappyJester, I much preferred when no one knew what the hell the Necrons were, and those that did know were terrified of the thought of them reawakening. Whenever the Imperium came across something Necron and made terrible choices because they didn't realize what they were unleashing, that was the Necrons I liked. The Deceiver playing games, the dead worlds with mysterious structures, the relics and artifacts, all of the mystery about them.
Now I feel like the average Imperial would look at something and say "Oh, that's obviously Necron in origin."

Valek wrote:Wraiths in fa are good, but so far the rumours, pretorians can be armed with rendingswords and get a 3++ also, Jumptroops and T5 unit. Think that will be a big contender, depending however on how much points the wraiths will come in with the lash whips...

The updated summary Yak posted doesn't have anything about the Praetorians having a 3++, so I don't think they will. It sounded like from the first rumor summary, that was the Dispersion shields for the Lycheguard.

The Deceiver playing games, the dead worlds with mysterious structures, the relics and artifacts, all of the mystery about them.

Yeah, I do have to admit that's the most disappointing thing about the update, but Necrons had already lost most of their mystery with the last codex anyway.

tetrisphreak wrote:

Maelstrom808 wrote:For me, it'll probably be just a codex and the Stormlord and the failcast Overlord (as they are fairly cheap and just cool minis to paint) until I see a FAQ. I'm not doing this "buy a bunch of models and then get the rug pulled out from under me" bit again like I did with Tyranids. That will also give me some time to sell off my Nids. IG and Tau are already sold.

How Ironic...I play 'nids and had the same thing happen. Only for me, i'm stupid enough to do it again, and I'll tell you why - I'm seeing in these rumors many many mucho many more ways to deal with vehicles, tanks, AV, whatever you prefer calling it than 'Nids will ever get. In today's meta game you have to have ranged anti-tank in an army list or you are doomed. Okay maybe not doomed but having anti-tank specialists is quite important. With crypteks, you have the option of making a 5 man court and putting a s8 assault (1 or 2?) weapon in every troop unit you field, not to mention the gauss weaponry all over the place. That fact has me eager to go ahead and put in early for an army that I think will be fun to play, and have competitive tricks and choices (and hopefully remain that way). Not to mention my store offers a 10% discount for pre-paid preorders. With the money I have from selling 3 resin models I will be able to get 3-5 vehicles and over 50 infantry models. I consider that to be a great conversion.

I think it will end up being a perfectly competative codex. It's just that I have seriously curbed the money I'm spending on 40k. I've decided to keep one army rather than 4-5. This means that when I buy models for a particular build, I'd like to make sure that they operate as I believed they would, for as long as possible. In the meantime, I'm having a blast with Dust Tactics.

It's less than 2 weeks to 5th and there is still no confirmation from GW - growing afraid again :(
How long 'til usual WD release date? Should be this week if not now...

Herr Dexter wrote:It's less than 2 weeks to 5th and there is still no confirmation from GW - growing afraid again :(
How long 'til usual WD release date? Should be this week if not now...

This should probably be posted on the front page, since a lot of people are asking.

GW's new release policy is to Put up Preorder the Last Saturday of the Month (When WD hits the shelves) then the actual release date is the First Saturday of the following month.

So, Preorders will go up on the 29th, and the Release will be the 5th of November.

Herr Dexter wrote:It's less than 2 weeks to 5th and there is still no confirmation from GW - growing afraid again :(
How long 'til usual WD release date? Should be this week if not now...

I actually went into the local GW and they confirmed new necron models to be in stock by the 5th.

Aye, the shop usually has the White Dwarf on the Friday, so far anyways, Dreadfleet wasn't late last month, think John Menzies distrubution is just sending it out as normal.

I always liked the look of the Necrons. The models look really fantastic and I sure almost everybody thinks about starting a Necron army. But I guess we'll soon realize that the new Necrons will be beatable, too.

I'm not entirely sure what is so confusing regarding the Stormlord's ability.

You roll a D6 for each enemy unit and if you roll a '6' for that unit, then the unit takes D6 S8 hits.

If you don't roll a '6' for the unit, then the unit doesn't take any hits.

yakface wrote:
I'm not entirely sure what is so confusing regarding the Stormlord's ability.

You roll a D6 for each enemy unit and if you roll a '6' for that unit, then the unit takes D6 S8 hits.

If you don't roll a '6' for the unit, then the unit doesn't take any hits.

It really isn't people seem to be making it difficult by not realizing the initial roll a d6 on a '6' the unit is hit is the to hit roll....

Sasori wrote:

tetrisphreak wrote:So I just played my (probably final) game with Necrons 3rd edition style vs my friend's DE army. I phased out by the bottom of turn 6 (which isn't bad considering he decided to field 3 venoms, 2 disintegrator ravagers, 2 raiders with disintegrators, haywire scourges, etc). I am so looking forward to being able to compete with an army I find thematically interesting - a shambling horde of robots that are hard to put down and keep down.

Did he Tailor his list for you, with all those Disintegraters? Not to sound like a Jerk, but it seems like it.

Just from what I've read so far, it seems like Stormlord Armies are going to be very good against DE armies. They rely so much on Alpha Strike, and with the Stormlords 4+ to Seize, and his Night fighting rules, it's going to be quite the combo IMO.

Oh yes he most definitely did tailor his list - It's his playstyle though. He thinks he is a better player than me because lately he wins with his DE more than not...but I think it's just because he takes hard counters to whatever army I happen to be playing at the time.

My space wolves used to wipe the grin from his face fairly regularly, even if it was a longfang/razorspam list. I don't have that army anymore, but I do have my lovely 'Crons and I'm hoping that with this update i can wipe that dumb grin from his face yet again.

I wouldn't go too much into the details of the new codex. Its too early guys.

yakface wrote:
I'm not entirely sure what is so confusing regarding the Stormlord's ability.

You roll a D6 for each enemy unit and if you roll a '6' for that unit, then the unit takes D6 S8 hits.

Do you get a cover save?

uh????? how you come to that? the coversave is already there being only hit on a 6...

If youre in area terrain, then yes.

Otherwise you have no "firing model" to determine if you get cover from it, so can never be in cover - so vehicles would only get cover from SoS, SC, KFF and similar.

Will probably pop into my local GW store on Saturday to work on the paint jobs of my current Necron warriors and my Monolith, but will probably pre-order either a Doomsday Ark/Barge for some conversion the following week, or a unit of Deathmarks and a SC - possibly Orikan if available as my silver-leaf coated nightbringer could work to make his abilities much more useful (As Yak mentioned in his post about Orikan), either that or the Stormlord as many have also said.

On the whole I am stoked about the new releses as up to now I have been more a modeller than a gamer, but have started thinking about actually playing rather than buying whatever model screams "Shiny, Shiny!" at me the loudest from the shelf. And as luck would have it, the collection of models from the same army that I decided to look at learning the game with was .............. Necrons.

So learning has taken a bit of a back seat to re-painting all that I had to my current standard, ready to take my 30 warriors, 3 destroyers, 1 heavy destroyer, 1 destroyer lord, 2 wraiths, 2 tomb spyders, 9 bases of scarabs, monolith, and Nightbringer to battle under the new codex.

I shall do without the new codex for a while, using the store copy, until I am sure I will continue gaming with the army. Then I shall look at getting the new codex and more of the models. I am especially looking forward to getting a look at the flyers, although I am also concerned that I will not be able to resist the DE bomber when it comes out (roumored to be February, I believe)

Getting cover from a lightning bolt in the face? That doesn't sound right... Unless you're in a building maybe...

angelshade00 wrote:Getting cover from a lightning bolt in the face? That doesn't sound right... Unless you're in a building maybe...

Standing in area terrain provides a 4+ cover save regardless of where the attack is originating from. It might not sound right from a real life perspective but that's how the rules system is right now.

Hopefully 6th edition will see an end to 4+ cover saves everywhere and go to a 5+ cover system.

tetrisphreak wrote:

angelshade00 wrote:Getting cover from a lightning bolt in the face? That doesn't sound right... Unless you're in a building maybe...

Standing in area terrain provides a 4+ cover save regardless of where the attack is originating from. It might not sound right from a real life perspective but that's how the rules system is right now.

Hopefully 6th edition will see an end to 4+ cover saves everywhere and go to a 5+ cover system.

I admit looking at this from a real life perspective... Let's hope the Stormlord's rules clarify that part.

Herr Dexter wrote:It's less than 2 weeks to 5th and there is still no confirmation from GW - growing afraid again :(
How long 'til usual WD release date? Should be this week if not now...

White Dwarf is last saturday of the month in UK- that will be the 29th. Then Necrons will be in shops on the 5th.

.. tally ho then ! Let the harvest commence.

Welp. In case anyone still had any doubts. GW has a teaser video at the bottom of the link.

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/blogPost.jsp?aId=18500093a

Edit: beat out by 2 mins. Damn.

Oh man, That teaser has me Pumped. Bring it on!

Nooooo damn work banned baracuda! can't see, i'll just imagine.........

.....Ooooooh that's nice stuff!

(am i close?)

reds8n wrote:


.. tally ho then ! Let the harvest commence.

As they say, this gak just got real yo.

Sweet Necron symbol at 0:28