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What is your favorite rule in W40k? And which rule do you hate most?

To get the ball rolling, my most hated rule is Daemonkin for possessed marines, random abilities decided after deployment isn't terribly fun.

My favorites would have to be the 5th Edition deployment rules, not because they are particularly great (although outflanking is fun) but because they are so more straightforward than 4th Edition deployment.

Hmm oddly enough my favourite is daemonkin the best way is to simply put them in a rhino in reserve then whatever you roll it can be used correctly.

anyway my least favourite rule is flank march for apocalypse so good and so banned.

Favorite would be the Monstrous Creature rule. you just can't knock it.
My least favorite would be that bloody waste-of-points Daemonkin rule... IMHO

Well my least favourite was the way that an immobilized vehilcel in a squadron counts as destroyed - what are the grot riggers on my buggies going to do now!

That was until the IG guard codex came out, now I love that I can destroy those pesky LRBT squadrons with glancing hits!

At the moment I think quite a few are nice. The one I wish was a bit different would have to be deepstrike.

Phase Out (on the entire army, mind you) is a ridiculous rule. Here's to hoping that the next 'cron codex changes it up a bit (something like on a per-squad basis combined with Stubborn?)

Warscythes are pretty badass, being the only thing in the game (iirc) that ignores invulnerable saves. Pity the only unit they're really worth taking on are Lords...

Broken rules like techmarines never actually being able to repair vehicles they're in and the deployment rules in general are rather amusing.

I think the way Rending works now is my least fav thats coming to mind. It used to be so awesome. now its kind of blah. It really took the umph out of SM scouts with sniper rifles. I dont play SM but still that just sucks.


My fav.........I think an attack squig on a boss w/PK is pretty awesome lol.
Personally I love the run rule.

Least Favourite: Casualties can come from anywhere. Seriously, it's a game with "True Line of Sight" - Casualties should come from visible models in the shooting phase, and from engaged models in the assault phase.

Favourite: I think the rules for faith in a WH army are very well done. They're not over-the-top, nor are they useless. They're well-defined as to when they have to be activated, and the underlying theme has an elegance to it (offensive acts of faith require more models in the squad to work, defensive work better when there are few girls left). They're a set of rules that are a good skill-tester - in that winning or losing with Sisters can often come down to knowing when to use the right act of faith.

Redbeard wrote:Least Favourite: Casualties can come from anywhere. Seriously, it's a game with "True Line of Sight" - Casualties should come from visible models in the shooting phase, and from engaged models in the assault phase.

I thoroughly agree with this. If anything, I wish that an IC could at least choose who they want to attack in close combat out of a squad. Why would I waste my time attacking a buncha wimpy boyz when the nob with a power klaw is gonna snip me in half? Hurr durr you only killed some from the back of the squad cause they ran forward and got stabbed

Best - I agree with redbeard - the faith rules are wonderful.

Worst - KP (nuff said) or casulatie rules (can come from behind buildings etc, stacking ID wounds etc)

Worst Rule in 40k: Necron phase out and wound allocation are a tie

Best Rule in 40k: 5th edition assault phase!

HolyCause wrote:Warscythes are pretty badass, being the only thing in the game (iirc) that ignores invulnerable saves. Pity the only unit they're really worth taking on are Lords...

The Inquisition would beg to differ, with C'Tan phase weapons, psycannons, psycannon bolts (on LRC's! ) incinerators and shieldbreaker rounds, "Invul" saves are toast... Unless you have a 3+ save

Favorite? Stubborn, and the "Insperational Hero" "Forward, You Dogs!" or "chapter tactics" rule that gives it to my whole army. Sternguard and G-man blob squads that never run away (or get rallied next turn automaticly) and never take fearless wounds. The only troops scoring rule is awesome too.

Least? Defensive weapons. At least make assault weapons defensive, I just don't buy not being able to fire heavy flamers on the move.

Hi all.
Best , how to adapt -modify dice rolls on page 2 of the rule book. A comprehensive list of how to cover complicated interactions simply.

Worst., the rest of 40k rules seems to be how to write the worst defined rule set in the world, by ignoring the use of the methods outlined on page 2!
(And the apology for not being able to write well defined rules at the top of pg 2 doesnt excuse this IMO.)

EG.
A small amount of modifiers , eg light cover -1 to hit, heavy cover -2 to hit.

Or 300+ words of abstracting cover into a physical protection that overides actual physical protection in a counter intuitive way !

Guess what 40k uses....

And the inaprorpiate charactiristic line and game mechanic and resolution methods do not do the game play ANY favors...

PLEASE someone tell GW that 'well defined and comprehensive rules writing ' has not been copywrited by other game developers, 40k game devs can use it after all!

I like the asthetics of 40k , but the rule set is the worst commercialy available!(Comparitivley based on amount game play to written rules...)

TTFN
Lanrak.

Best: The new blast template rules. Ravagers are even more awesome now.

Worse: KPs

My favorite rule is Eldar Jetbikes can move 6" in the assault phase. I didn't even know that until I found it in the rulebook. My least favorite? hmm... Destructable buildings. These rules must be accepted by both players if to be used, I never use them.

Least Favourite: Cerebus Launcher and Jamming Beacon, terrible rules, almost never used. The Frag Assault Launchers are pretty terrible as well, as any troops that a LR can carry have frag grenades as standard.

Most Favourite: Nemesis Force Weapons

the frag assault launchers are for the poor terminators who find it hard to throw grenades with power fists on. Just one of the myrad ways the LRC is making your life better.

Favorite Rules: Currently the IG Commander Orders

Hated: the fact that if you Assault, you can still go last.

Pinning: The most pointless rule ever since most things are immune to it.

The best rule for me were the old doctrines for guard, some of them were brilliant (close order drill for example).

sniperjolly wrote:the frag assault launchers are for the poor terminators who find it hard to throw grenades with power fists on. Just one of the myrad ways the LRC is making your life better.

yes but Terminators would be striking last anyway due to powerfists and thunderhammers. In fact, the only way frag launchers are useful is if the Land Raider is transporting Terminators with Lightning Claws

Best: IG Orders (very fluffy and non-game breaking)
Combat Tactics (especially balanced with the lure of SCs that negate it)
Codices with very hard choices for what to take instead of awesome units vs. slowed units.

Worst:

S4 Defensive weapons (Boo HISSS!)
Comm links (makes you hear someone better only from 12" away?)
Kill Points (for those too lazy to use a calculator)
Rolling a Difficult Terrain test less than the distance too the terrain=still only move that distance.

best:monstores creaturs

worst:phase out it sucks

I'd like to add in another worst rule: That you can only fire out of a transport if you move under 6 inches, even if it is a fast vehicle.

Another bad rule: Unless it's Ap1 or Open-topped, you can't destroy a vehicle with a lucky glancing hit. I still remember the time when a lucky Hunter-Killer rolled 3 6's and destroyed a Monolith!

Best: Lumbering behemoth. Helps to have my Russes keep firing while I advance.

I like "We'll be Back" most, Necrons don't stay dead for long from experience.

Best: Rapid fire dice (FUN!!!)

Worst: Wound allocation/5th edition TLOS (Migraine!!!)

Best: Only Troops count as Scoring. Finally, makes Troops valuable.

Worst: Kill Points are used in 1/3 of basic missions. I'd prefer all Objectives, all the time.

Worst: Wound allocation & Cover Saves

Best: I really like TLOS... but Cover Saves kinda bring it down.

Best: Hull down (I play dirty, oh so dirty with this rule, 3 Russ tanks, 2 behind 1, the back two get 4+ for being obscured by the front non squadron one... oh so dirty)

Worst: Sweeping advance, I really think they need to tweak this rule a bit... how does one model kill over 50 guardsmen over a failed I test... They should change it to something like if I test is failed by the falling back unit, they still fall back but suffer D6 attacks per winning model by the winning unit.

Good rule, but hated: Warp-time