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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/04 01:50:57
Subject: Ork List
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Mutilatin' Mad Dok
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Here is a list I came up with. Its a modification of a list I put together which I used to smash a few Marine Skulls In.
Come Forth, The Waaagh!!!
HQ:Thraka
HQ:Warboss on Warbike With Powerclaw and Shoota/Skorcha Combi - For when I get close with his speed. I put him in my Nobs on Warbikes Troop. OH and Cybork Armor In Case I need to take Invuls at close combat since Exaust cloud dont work in close combat.
Elite:Lootas
Elite:More Lootas
Troop:30 Ard Boys with Ard Boys Nob with Powerclaw and slugga.
Troop:30 Boys with Shoota and Nob with Powerclaw etc.
Troop: Nobs on warbikes and Waaagh Banner and Shoota Skorcha Combi and a painboy on a warbike
Troop:MegaNobs..Thraka Goes with these guys in a battle Wagon
I think Thats About It for now.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/04 14:54:00
Subject: Ork List
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Tower of Power
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One transport? That will get targeted and popped which means ghazgkull and meganobz are foot slogging, not cool with slow and purposeful. You need dual threat, so another transport really.
Everything else seems fine though, but how many lootas and nobz on bikes your taking?
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warhammer 40,000 tactica and hobby blog - www.imperiusdominatus.com
Want list feedback and advice? e-mail imperiusdominatus@live.co.uk
Blood Angels - 2000 Iron Warriors - 2000 Orks -2000 Imperial Guard - 2000
Eldar - 2000 Hive Fleet Krakken - 2000 Dark Eldar - 2000 Necrons - 2000 Grey Knights - 2000 Daemons - 2000 Ravenwing - 2000 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/04 15:02:47
Subject: Ork List
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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It would be much easier to give you feeback if you actually made a list including how many units, points ect.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/04 15:24:33
Subject: Re:Ork List
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Fixture of Dakka
Feasting on the souls of unworthy opponents
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Your short army list gets a short reply:
Your list is poop.
If you read some of the other Ork army lists posted in this forum, and the comments that have been left on them, the reasons why will become readily apparent.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/04 18:07:29
Subject: Re:Ork List
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Mutilatin' Mad Dok
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Dashofpepper wrote:Your short army list gets a short reply:
Your list is poop.
If you read some of the other Ork army lists posted in this forum, and the comments that have been left on them, the reasons why will become readily apparent.
Then why have I won With it?
Another Transport? Thats Easy to do but why the hell would I? My Shoota Boys Stay Put on an Objective or act as Fodder while shooting. My Lootas do the same Exact thing. They do nothing but stand in one Area and shoot. Maybe Fix in another Battle Wagon so the first isn't shot down as easily but even if I get My Transport shot down the unit inside is nearly indestructible.
My Warbikes are fast enough to charge across the maps and my slugga choppa boys are too large to go into transports.
I have a full unit of Everything so I did not bother to put down how many there were...Assumed you would come to conclusion that they were full troops.
@dashofpepper
Your face is Poop!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/05 13:19:14
Subject: Ork List
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Tower of Power
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Why another transports? I explained why in my post, dual threat  One transport, pop it, SnP for your moeganoz - you want that? Give it some support.
Meganobz are not indestructible. They move slow and have no invulnerable saves. Anything ap2 will wreck them, and will probably spell instant death i.e lascannon or demolisher shell.
Not only can you also get around quicker, but it provides cover for your troops. Small arms fire cannot get at them. So pop your boyz in a transport and camp them on the objective. Before you shoot the boyz you need to get them out the transport, its another line of defence
Cut your troops down into units of 20 and throw them into battlewagons - easy!
Your bikes might tear about the place, but do they have any support? No is the answer.
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warhammer 40,000 tactica and hobby blog - www.imperiusdominatus.com
Want list feedback and advice? e-mail imperiusdominatus@live.co.uk
Blood Angels - 2000 Iron Warriors - 2000 Orks -2000 Imperial Guard - 2000
Eldar - 2000 Hive Fleet Krakken - 2000 Dark Eldar - 2000 Necrons - 2000 Grey Knights - 2000 Daemons - 2000 Ravenwing - 2000 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/05 17:23:32
Subject: Re:Ork List
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Grovelin' Grot
Myrtle Beach, South Carolina
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Having your only transport be a battlewagon is much better than it being a trukk, but it's going to take really heavy fire and might get popped before you even have a chance to move it depending who you play. I'd drop your the armor from your 'ard boyz. They're footslogging so its not really gonna make a huge difference. Use the left over points and take more boyz. Consider taking only shoota boyz if they're all footslogging, they let you roll a ton of dice as they move across the table and they're almost as good in CC. In the future I'd consider dropping your bikers or your meganobz. You've got a ton of points invested in both of those units and could get either more boyz or more diversity if you drop one or the other. Total up your points for your meganobz, thraka, and bwagon and look at how many more boyz you could take with that gone. Look at how many more warbikers or nob bikers. The difference should be pretty impressive. This list definitely doesn't look bad despite what some people are saying, but its not going to dominate and if it's not played exactly right it could struggle. Good luck with it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/06 01:04:40
Subject: Re:Ork List
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Fixture of Dakka
Feasting on the souls of unworthy opponents
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It could be that you you've won with it because you haven't faced any tactically competent or competitive players? Keep in mind that Orks are probably the most forgiving army in 40k right now. Anyone can win with Orks; you don't need good generalship to be effective. If you *do* pair up a good ork army list with a good general though, the results are simply ridiculous.
Just taking a guess here though; all I can really say is that I'd like to meet you on the table in a tournament; it would be one game less I'd have to worry about.
Like I said though; you wrote a short list without explanation, so I gave you a short answer. If you want some detailed feedback (since you obviously didn't do any of the very simple research I asked you do) why don't you just try reading some commentary (that I wrote) on a couple other army lists that you can then take and apply to your own.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/264154.page
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/263869.page <--- has a lot of specific insights
I'd go on, but that should be enough of a start for you to get a start.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/06 03:36:29
Subject: Re:Ork List
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Mutilatin' Mad Dok
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Just taking a guess here though; all I can really say is that I'd like to meet you on the table in a tournament; it would be one game less I'd have to worry about.
How dare you  Talk down to me like that.
115 Main Street Eagle Point Oregon. Dragons Roost!
Come by my shop anytime and I will be more then happy to face you. I "should" also be in Reno for the next big tournament. I would be happy to face you at one of these places
Like I said though; you wrote a short list without explanation, so I gave you a short answer. If you want some detailed feedback (since you obviously didn't do any of the very simple research I asked you do) why don't you just try reading some commentary (that I wrote) on a couple other army lists that you can then take and apply to your own.
I suppose I could had but I built my last list that way as a Beta for what I want to eventually Run in my own list. Half the Models I used in that list is Stuff I borrowed from the Ork Masters in my shop. The Manager and one of my Friends who took 2nd Place in Ard Boys Semi Finals In Sacremento.....Would had gone to Finals but we couldn't get the money for his trip which Epically sucked ars.
Not Quite what I wanna run in mine. But they are good lists.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/06 03:36:58
Subject: Ork List
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Sinewy Scourge
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If you're going to run Nob Bikers, abuse the Wound allocation rules. As Dash says, Orks are forgiving right now, and yes you need another transport, or something else to draw fire from the BW.
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Also littlenibbler Orks aren't about armour saves.
Orks are about having too many models on the table, and wasting the other guy's time with your movement phase.
Orks are about having the toughest units on the table.
Orks are about not caring about how many bodies are left in a long winding trail until the squad is down to less than a third its starting strength.
Orks are about rolling more dice then you can count without the aid of a calculator or a pen and paper.
Orks are about having totally fething insane characters tearing gak down like Doc Grotsnik, Ghazghkull or Snikrot.
Orks are about being too fething awesome to die...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/06 18:33:54
Subject: Re:Ork List
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Fixture of Dakka
Feasting on the souls of unworthy opponents
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Vasarto, I can't stress enough that you should read some of the other army lists and critiques on the forums here and learn from them; adjust your list accordingly and then open it up to critique. Right now, there's nothing else worth saying.
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