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I have three chaos bikes, a metal dread, and a couple of soldiers that I used the wrong paint on. I thought I had red primer and the guy at the store said it would work just the same, but now that I have sprayed them, they are all messed up. The paint is thick and glossy. All my detail is gone. They are screwed. I used Krylon fusion satin for plastic, but it's supposed to be good on anything. Anyone know how to strip this back off or fix them? I got these as a deal at my hobby store and I can't afford to replace them.

Any help guys, please.

Simple green should do the trick. If not, I dunno man, that sucks :(.

get Simple Green at Wal-Mart it will get it off, you can find it in the auto-parts area.

do not water it down at all, you want it in it's concentrated form. It won't hurt you this way though.

Simple green, the cleaner? What soak them in it?

Awesome. I'll try it.

You might be screwed here. It is my understanding that Krylon Fusion Satin for plastic bonds to the plastic. However, you might be able to get some of the paint off with a Simple Green dip and retrieve some of the detail you lost, but I don't think you will get it all off.

If not simple green, try this stuff...



Very powerful degreaser found in most auto parts stores, Use gloves and goggles to handle but no real fumes to speak of and here is the best part, eats the paint off but is completely safe on plastics! Soak for a couple of days if need be. I myself have not had anything stand up to a two day soak, yet.

Also, here is a link to an article here on Dakka...

http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Dakka_Modeling_FAQ:_How_to_Strip...

Hope this helps.

Yes soak it, overnight is best, this will not hurt your plastic, though depending on the glue you used it may strip that off, but all that means is a bit of re-glueing and not melted models. so after an overnight soak, you can take an old tooth brush (best) and just scrub the old paint/primer off.

good luck and happy scrubbing.

Awesome. Just read the tutorial. Thank you GoFinris. looks like Castrol Super Clean it is. They were bargain bin models so maybe I'll be able to take them back to square one.

Also if you cant get those things try metho or dettol and use a toothbrush.

I only personally used metho and it worked.. takes a while though.

Ironhide wrote:You might be screwed here. It is my understanding that Krylon Fusion Satin for plastic bonds to the plastic. However, you might be able to get some of the paint off with a Simple Green dip and retrieve some of the detail you lost, but I don't think you will get it all off.

FYI regarding this. I'm not sure, specifically but I did have one batch of models I stripped and I got off all of the gunk but the final layer (presumably the plastic bonded part?) remained. In other words, I had some cheap models I stripped clean of their cheap detail robbing paint but they remained green yet without the gunk and with the details. I can only assume this was the same issue.

Just got home from getting the super clean. We'll see what happens. Thanks guys.

GoFenris wrote:

Ironhide wrote:You might be screwed here. It is my understanding that Krylon Fusion Satin for plastic bonds to the plastic. However, you might be able to get some of the paint off with a Simple Green dip and retrieve some of the detail you lost, but I don't think you will get it all off.

FYI regarding this. I'm not sure, specifically but I did have one batch of models I stripped and I got off all of the gunk but the final layer (presumably the plastic bonded part?) remained. In other words, I had some cheap models I stripped clean of their cheap detail robbing paint but they remained green yet without the gunk and with the details. I can only assume this was the same issue.

That's exactly what I was thinking would happen, because I had some Plastic SMs that I srtipped with Super Clean (soaked for a week); yet the black primer remained. Got the models in a trade, so don't know what kind of "primer" was used.

I'm going to give it a shot all the same. Nothing ventured......

Zonetrooper1 wrote:I'm going to give it a shot all the same. Nothing ventured......

Don't misunderstand. It worked, retained detail and everything, they're just green instead of gray. Well, were, they have been re-primered.

They're soaking right now. Probably leave them till tomorrow night or Friday. I got some gray primer while I was out, and I made sure it was "primer" this time. If I can get the majority of the stuff off, I'll be happy. Some of the guys i know use the three foot rule. If the mini looks good from three feet away, that's good enough. I think you should be able to pick it up and it still look good.

DO NOT USE GREY PRIMER if bought form a regualr store it will be car or household grade. Very thick and will take detail away. Spend the money and buy modeling primer at your local hobby shop

Zonetrooper1 wrote:They're soaking right now. Probably leave them till tomorrow night or Friday. I got some gray primer while I was out, and I made sure it was "primer" this time. If I can get the majority of the stuff off, I'll be happy. Some of the guys i know use the three foot rule. If the mini looks good from three feet away, that's good enough. I think you should be able to pick it up and it still look good.

I go by the "if I'm 100% happy with it, it's good enough" rule.

Please tell us how this works out! I'm interested to find out what "primer" was used on the models I got in a trade. This should confirm or deny my suspicions.

DemonBunnyMan wrote:DO NOT USE GREY PRIMER if bought form a regualr store it will be car or household grade. Very thick and will take detail away. Spend the money and buy modeling primer at your local hobby shop

Hmm... I really don't agree with this. I use gray, general purpose primer for modeling all the time. The key I've found is to use very short bursts of spray from about 6-8 inches away. However, all primers act differently. Do some testing before attempting it on your models.

People need to learn how to use spray paints better IMO. I too use cheap primers and NEVER have had a problem with it blobbing up and stealing detail away. Before using spray, ALWAYS do a few practice sprays on something else, that way if the paint went bad, or it blobbed up, you dont ruin anything important. Then as stated above, SHORT bursts and the proper distance away. Its pretty easy once you get the hang of it.


And uh THANKS GoFenris for stealing my job! I POST THE SUPER CLEAN!!!!

KingCracker wrote:People need to learn how to use spray paints better IMO. I too use cheap primers and NEVER have had a problem with it blobbing up and stealing detail away. Before using spray, ALWAYS do a few practice sprays on something else, that way if the paint went bad, or it blobbed up, you dont ruin anything important. Then as stated above, SHORT bursts and the proper distance away. Its pretty easy once you get the hang of it.


And uh THANKS GoFenris for stealing my job! I POST THE SUPER CLEAN!!!!

yeah,
Let us know if the stripping worked or not.
photos would be nice!>?

Good Luck...

Panic..

Thanks everyone. I most certainly will post how this worked out. I don't know about pics since I haven't been able to take a good pick of a mini to save my life, no matter what setting I had the camera on, but I'll try.

They are still soaking and I'll probably let them continue until tonight. Thanksgiving dinner isn't the best time to wip out the minis and the tooth brush. LOL.

No matter how many times I say it, there's always someone (noob or pro) who doesn't take heed.

Always test your spray on something you don't care about. If you like the results, THEN move onto your models.

I'm eager to see how this works for you. If it doesn't work, my friend has told me that Brake Fluid works great too. If you're uncertain about somethng will affect the models, you could always use a Spray-painted Sprue to test the mixture first.

Anyways, best of luck! Let us know how it works out.

Simple Green or brake fluid would be my two advices

DemonBunnyMan wrote:DO NOT USE GREY PRIMER if bought form a regualr store it will be car or household grade. Very thick and will take detail away. Spend the money and buy modeling primer at your local hobby shop

I've used Halfords car primers in white, black, grey and even red, and never had this problem.

I quit using primer on minis about a year ago and have yet to see the downside to not doing so, just wash the mini thoroughly in dish liquid before painting to remove any residue from the molding process and the paint lays just fine

Grabzak Dirtyfighter wrote:I quit using primer on minis about a year ago and have yet to see the downside to not doing so, just wash the mini thoroughly in dish liquid before painting to remove any residue from the molding process and the paint lays just fine

Really? I'll try that next time I get new models. Sure would save some time and money.