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Grabzak Dirtyfighter wrote:I quit using primer on minis about a year ago and have yet to see the downside to not doing so, just wash the mini thoroughly in dish liquid before painting to remove any residue from the molding process and the paint lays just fine

Primer is not just about paint consistency. Priming a mini before painting helps paint hold on models better (not flake off), and prevents bare plastic/metal to show through in the recesses in a finished model. It is possible achieve decent results without primer, but I have never met a good painter who doesn't prime their models first.

Super clean is the stuff!!! No pics just yet, but I just finished scrubbing them down and wow, what a difference. Not only did it remove the crap I put on them but the layers I didn't know were there. The dread is in a number of pieces right now and needs a re-glue, but it took the dread to bare metal and got 95% of the paint off the plastic pieces. I put the plastic pieces back in the liquid for another over-night soak to try and loosen what is in the crevices. I was probably saved from the paint bonding to the plastic because of the paint that was already on them.

I was probably saved from the paint bonding to the plastic because of the paint that was already on them.

I would have to agree with you there!

Hmmm I will have to try Super clean next time rather than simple green... Im currently stripping my FW Giant Spined Beast and not having the BEST of luck with simple green... its taken quite a bit off although it still has alot left on it... toothbrush doesnt help much either...

Its partially my fault for watering it down though and it wasnt even a normal gw or similar paint i used on it... something I found in a craft store that at the time I thought looked good... the model looked horrid in retrospect though

Good to know your models have been saved mate!

Ironhide wrote:I would have to agree with you there!

Yea, I don't know why it didn't dawn on me in the first place, that there was already some paint on them.

Buttlerthepug wrote:Good to know your models have been saved mate!

Thanks to you guys. I appreciate it.

If anything primer helps prevent impact chipping, if you still dont want to use spray primer, at least use a base coat of a foundation paint on your mini's this will at least get some of that effect. but spray primer will save you time in the long run if you use your armies color for the primer, such as black for the templars or white for white scars.

Buttlerthepug wrote:Hmmm I will have to try Super clean next time rather than simple green... Im currently stripping my FW Giant Spined Beast and not having the BEST of luck with simple green... its taken quite a bit off although it still has alot left on it... toothbrush doesnt help much either...

Its partially my fault for watering it down though and it wasnt even a normal gw or similar paint i used on it... something I found in a craft store that at the time I thought looked good... the model looked horrid in retrospect though

Good to know your models have been saved mate!

Super Clean on Resin is a bad idea!!! PM also sent! I can't remember if it is in the tutorial or another thread but someone said Super Clean made their resin kit soft and almost gelatin-y. Just an FYI. Can someone varify this for sure?

Dread, stripped and re-glued. not the best picture, but ....

hmm. Ive never used the primer as a way to make the paint stick better. Iv always used it because i wanted a uniform base color. The paint sticking better was just a side benefit lol.

Works everytime! Nice save. (god those old dreds are ugly lol)

Also I would advise against not priming your minis. Just practice on other things first to get the technique down. It really is in short bursts. Im talking if you say 1-1 thousand, to count as a second, you start and stop spraying on the first 1 of 1-1 thousand. And make sure you do it in sweeping motions. Takes a little practice but works perfectly on mine. Priming not only gives a nice surface to paint on, but it also gives your paints something to hold on to for dear life. ALSO a common problem when NOT priming, is the paint will rub off your minis rather easily. And that sucks. Specially on metal minis, paint just does not stay on the metal for some reason lol
Good luck as always!

I've gotten a lot of input on primer so far, but does anyone use a clear coat or gloss spray after the model is completely painted? Someone who knows nothing about 40k suggested it, but it sounded like it could be a good idea. Any thoughts?


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Here are pics of stripped and scrubbed bikes and CSM. Extra night of soaking really didn't do to much more to remove the extra paint. Maybe where it boned and i just couldn't get it out. Scrubbed like hell and wouldn't budge. All in all. not too bad. i think they will work once dry and primed. Again, sorry the pictures aren't the best.

yeah,
looks like your minis's have been saved. which is good.
Before you reprime I suggest you wash the minis in plain running water to remove all traces of simple green... or your new coat of paint might not take.

Panic...

Panic wrote:I suggest you wash the minis in plain running water to remove all traces of simple green... or your new coat of paint might not take.

Exactly what I did. After scrubbing with dish soap and water, I ran them under the faucet to wash away any soap or super clean that may remain. I primered them yesterday, and they look pretty cool. Now I'm looking for the time to actually paint them.

there is this stuff Ive only seen in a dollar store, its called awesome, it looks and smells like pinesol, but doesnt hurt plastic, I stripped an entire army and repainted it.