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**Boss Salvage**

I can't remember ever seeing these on Dakka, so thought I'd share. I got these off Plastic Legions, though apparently they're from Warseer before that:

This is backed up by a couple things:
1) 8th ed changes alluded in rules,
2) fits with the White Dwarf blurb last issue
3) Its the only thing making noise as the another fantasy release before 8th ed.
4) Orcs vs Empire all but confirmed for 8th ed starter set (No TK)
Orc book fall, Empire book January, matching 7th ed releases schedule.
I usually don't bother recycling this stuff, but I know a couple people this TK news
will make happy!

Tomb Kings May 2010.

Courtesy of user, Hennesy on Warseer

Undead rule:
- Will stay the same in principle but you may take a stand&shoot reaction now.
That one was expected since the banshee may stand&shoot as well.

Magic:
- Will also stay the same with some minor changes:
-- Incantation of summoning reanimates D6 / 2D6 wounds
-- Tomb princes have 6” range like tomb kings
-- Tomb kings and princes have the option to generate dispel dice and energy dice (dispel spells in play only)
Pft... the adjustment in effectiveness of the incantations is ok, it should be level with the vampire one this way. Princes range is good. Dispell dice for Kings and Princes? Great, I only hope it won't be overpriced.

Undead construct rule:
- Will stay the same

“It came from below…” rule:
- Will stay the same

The curse:
- Will stay the same

Casket of souls
- Will have three different incantations to choose:
-- One incantation healing D3 wounds of all friendly units and characters on the field
-- One incantation similar to the current one
-- One incantation moving D3 units
- Will grant a ward save to it’s crew and attached priests
That sounds great!

Tomb prince:
- Magic changes, see above
- Strength 5
- If a tomb prince is the general you may take one unit of chariots as a core unit
- May be given the battle standard
Looking at the Scar Veteran S and T5 for heros was to be expected. Battle standard for the prince is great.

Battle standard bearer:
- New name (unknown to me)
- May be given the battle standard but may be used without as well
- May ride on a skeleton horse or in a chariot
- No magic
- Killing blow
- WS5, S4, T4, A3
A simple fighting hero without magic and an avarage profile. Ok, especially for friendly games with limited magic but I think the Prince will stay the better choice.

Skeleton warriors:
- Wear light armour without further costs
Decrease of one point would have been better but better than nothing.

Skeleton light horsemen:
- May be given light armour
- May be given Spears and Shields
That shoud give us some interesting taktical options.

Skeleton heavy horsemen:
- Are out!
I won't bemoan the loss of them.

Tomb Guard:
- 9(!) points/model
All right, Grave Guard cost 10 (?) points/model. And they have heavy armour and can make march movements... 9 points is ok I think.

Ushabti:
- 4+ armour save (including undead construct)
- 5+ ward save
- M6
- 55 points/model
That should make Ushabti usable. Not more but usable.

Carrions:
- S4
- Cheaper
Stronger and cheaper? Great!

Tomb scorpion:
- more expensive (about 100 points)
- 5 wounds (!)
Wow, the most extrem change I think. Scorpions with unit size 5 will be nasty!

Bone Giant:
- equipment options (similar to Warhammer chronicles)
The options have been a baublery in the past, they will stay a baublery in the future.

Screaming Skull Catapult:
- Every model touched is hit, not only on 4+.
The way it is in the Skaven book. Maybe a hint of what to come in the 8th edition rule book?

- Salvage

**Necros**

makes me sad I just sold my army :(

any world on what will be plasticified? I'm guessing skeletons at least since they're still using the super old skeleton models... maybe tomb guard too?

**Jin**

Sounds potentially nasty. I'm looking forward to this if these are true.

**avantgarde**

I will not start Tomb Kings. I will not start Tomb Kings. I will not start Tomb Kings.

**lord_blackfang**

Considering that we still don't know anything substantial about the Codex that comes out in a month, I highly doubt any of this has any weight.

**BrassScorpion**

I've been resisting a Tomb Kings project for years due to lack of time and other backlogged models. I've always wanted to do a skeleton army. Been hooked on the idea forever thanks to that final battle scene in Ray Harryhausen's Jason And The Argonauts.

The door to this project already may have cracked open when I got a box of Tomb Kings Chariots free at the Black Friday pomotion in GW Annapolis. If the new Tomb Kings are "too cool for the tomb"

I may have to get some, even if it's just for a cool modeling project.

**Jin**

This may inspire me to actually make some inroads to my Terracotta-themed Tomb Kings idea.

**Sarge**

If they're supposed to be the flip side to the Vampire Counts army we'll see something heavy cav related. Or their chariots may get some new hotness rules. If the timeline is correct, we'll star hearing about them in March.

**Druidic**

Got a out 4500 points of TK still all sealed and boxed up as a project, a new book would kick me into getting the damn things started!

**mortetvie**

I think this was deemed as wishlisting, still, would be nice if some of it were true.

**Sarge**

I'll accept wishlisting for the rules..but what about the date?

**combatmedic**

*squeal!*

**chaos0xomega**

Don't buy it... at least not the part about orcs/empire, as Brimstone suggested that we can expect OK out before the end of next year.

**pakman**

I would love a TK update. I love the fluff of the army and the idea of running a shambling horde held together only by magic. But I doubt it will be coming anytime soon, so I won't be holding my breath. I'll continue to work on my Vampire Counts.

**Jin**

From the Rumor Mill(tm) it seemed all but confirmed that TK were coming out in 2010.

**40kenthusiast**

Liking the look of those spoilers....but the all important question remains...is the Icon of Rakoph still available?

**Sarge**

How'd brimstone come across that information? I'd love to see an OK update as well as that army is currently taking up space in my closet until it's reasonably competitive.

**chaos0xomega**

Dunno. You can try asking brimstone, but he doesn't give away his sources. Just accept what he says as the closest you will get to knowing the truth, as I've yet to see him wrong about something.

But basically, what happened was someone on warseer posted that they heard rumors of Ogre Kingdoms in 2010 (more specifically towards the second half), people cried bloody murder, and said it wasn't happening, and brimstones response was that the assumption was entirely reasonable (and thus came an end to all the "not happening" posts... or not).

**Death Gear**

Do we know if they are getting new mini's if so I will be really happy I have a army but the mini's could be beater but this makes me happy

**Sarge**

That may be why the TK release is further away. GW does like to go for the low hanging fruit. OK need a rewrite, but not necessarily any new models or resculpts.

**Mattbranb**

Has anyone seen any updated rumors on TK recently? From what I've read its about confirmed they're in May after Blood Angels. Hopefully the rumor mill has some good stuff . . . . .

**Little lord Fauntleroy**

Has anyone else noticed that in Warhammer world, most of the Tomb Kings models in the minatures hall have mysteriously dissapeared? Exactly as the Blood Angels and Beasties did?

Weird that...

**Flashman**

Think I've seen some of that before especially regarding Casket of Souls, so it may just be doing the rounds.

Find it odd that no new units are mentioned, as GW seem to be squeezing at least a few into every army book these days (Plague Furnance, Dragon Mage, Engine of the Gods etc), so it suggests wish listing to me...

**reds8n**

In all honesty I think any speculation about new armies etc etc is really better off waiting until we see or are told about 8th edition being this year or not.

**Waaagh_Gonads**

I'm wondering if the massed cav release for all armies is still happening this year, and if so if it will push back the next release to post 8th ed release.

**olympia**

Things have been awful quiet if 2010 was supposed to be the year of Fantasy Battle.

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Also, the second Nagash Book is out in April/May. Not necessarily indicative of anything of itself, but it has been yonks since the first one (Shadowking 'jumped' a slot) so perhaps they've been sitting on it for some cross-pollenation based sales?

As for not hearing anything about new units, I shouldn't worry too much. The Beastman rumours didn't mention half their stuff (at least, not the ones I'd read).

I really hope it is Tomb Kings next. Ogres have a nice looking range of models (well, barring the hideous Butcher) and their rules can be brought up by 8th Ed core changes (like different unit frontages for rank bonus, all big beasties getting the Minotaur charge rulese etc).

**spacewolflord**

On the TK side of things if they get a Plastic Ushabti box I know I get TK for that reason alone.

Second, on 8th ed coming this year. Wouldn't there be some loud noise coming from GW HQ about that if it was really happening? I think people are just want a change because they hate what GW came out with because their 7th ed Army can't win because they are just bad at the game. I personally think 8th is a number of years away and I am quite happy to think so.

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Not convinced 8th will be this year, but the Skaven book has a number of notable differences in standard rules, like Templates losing partials, and instead simply hitting anything it so much as grazes, the combined profile for Artillery and so on.

This year or next I reckon, but yet to hear anything official.

**filbert**

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Not convinced 8th will be this year, but the Skaven book has a number of notable differences in standard rules, like Templates losing partials, and instead simply hitting anything it so much as grazes, the combined profile for Artillery and so on.

This year or next I reckon, but yet to hear anything official.

Not to turn this into a thread knocking GW's business logic, but it is this sort of uncertainty that is stopping me getting back into WFB. I'm not going to go ahead and order Skull Pass and a rulebook if said rulebook is obsolete in < 1 year. And nor am I going to start building an army for the same reason. Now if GW announced one way or another, that the next edition was on it's way, then at least customers could adjust accordingly.