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Maniacal Gibbering Madboy






Santa Clara, CA

I was clearly talking about people who are out of shape, not just people with extra weight around their muscle. You didn't clarify that you meant fit people with a heavier body type, so I took it to mean that you were saying a person that is of no apparent physical merit would be better off than a person that trains excel in physical activities. (A linebacker is included in my "fit" list of people)

And sure, we can talk about plenty of if-then situations. If you're being chased by a pack of wolves, if you're trapped in an ice cave, if you're stuck on a hot jungle island, etc... My argument is that being overweight doesn't give you an edge over a fit person. Being fit gives you an edge over an unfit person.

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Feldwebel




Charleston, SC

On the verge of middle-age, in sufficient shape, and mildly over weight!

So no complaints!

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Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps







monkeyh wrote:
im2randomghgh wrote:Just had a routine fitness consultation at the gym,

6'0 165 lbs 8%Body fat


Is this good or bad? How much body fat does/should the average person have?


hint: I run Parcour (behind on painting now, unfortunately)

5%-13% is athletic (usually, there are always people with odd body shapes)


   
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Crazed Gorger




NakedBatBoy wrote:
Stormcallers wrote:I'd say i'm average. 5'9" 170.


BMI says that's Overweight, son. Unless it's all muscle or something, you sir are overweight not normal/average. (This is an example of people skewing the results.

the color purple wrote:
Anvildude wrote:See, I don't put much stock in "overweight" as a guideline for BMI. Why? Because they're basically comparing you to an Aryan workoutaholic who spends their entire day making sure they are in shape. Normal people, in today's primarily sedentary culture and workforce, will almost always have a few pounds 'extra'- and honestly? That's not a terrrible thing. Means you have extra insulation against cold weather, and a store of energy if you ever are stuck in a situation where you have no food. One thing you see on shows like Survivorman, where the 'survivalist' is in 'perfect' physical condition is that he's basically starving to death in 2 or 3 days, when someone who's 'overweight' by 50 pounds would be fine for a week.


Actually BMI assumes you have an average muscle/fat ratio. Gym rats and pro athletes mess the scale up by having much more muscle mass compared to their height, and comparatively less height, than the average person, which means that they'll show up as overweight or obese when in fact they're in great shape. Modern people are unhealthy, yes, that doesn't mean that we should start considering unhealthy the average. There's a middle ground between starving to death and 50 pounds overweight, and in modern western society we have gone just a bit too far towards the overweight side.


Except the 50lb overweight guy wouldn't be able to do at least half the things the in shape guy can. Could they cross the powerful river without being swept away? Probably not (the extra surface area from all that fat, not to mention the lack of muscles certainly wouldn't help in fighting against a current). Could they climb up a rocky mountain/slope to get to a better vantage point in order to determine which direction to travel? Not likely (The extra weight, and lack of finger strength certainly wouldn't help with the ascent). Face it, being out of shape doesn't make you more survivable than a fit person. An person in optimal shape could provide for themselves, accomplish goals they needed to and out perform a person in less that premium fitness. But sure, I suppose the out of shape person could last longer on just lounging in a hole doing nothing... though I'm not sure that's very ambitious nor very good long term thinking.

This isn't to say that I don't like people of different weight distributions. I am just arguing against your justification for being over weight as a means of being better able to survive harsh environments and physical feats... Afterall, who ever heard of a Fat SM? The Emperor wouldn't have it!

In unrelated news, this is a cool emoticon:


Er, dude, I'm not defending being overweight. All I did was explain what BMI is and how especially muscular people "break" it by appearing overweight when in fact they are quite healthy.
   
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Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps







@ Fat SM...PLAGUE MAHREENS!

   
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Maniacal Gibbering Madboy






Santa Clara, CA

the color purple wrote:Er, dude, I'm not defending being overweight. All I did was explain what BMI is and how especially muscular people "break" it by appearing overweight when in fact they are quite healthy.


Yeah, I know, I was agreeing with you.

im2randomghgh wrote:@ Fat SM...PLAGUE MAHREENS!


I suppose there's always an exception. Though the emperor certainly would cast out the plague marines as well..

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Sword-Wielding Bloodletter of Khorne






I fit the girl gamer stereotype completely and hate every moment. Been overweight since I was 8 and have a great level of complex issues as to why I am still... as I really, really want to just be fit. (Fit as in active, not 'fit' as in attractive btw.)

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Thunderhawk Pilot Dropping From Orbit





Worle, UK

I enjoy my geeking and am proud of it, I also work as a Bouncer/Doorman at the weekends.

 
   
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Battleship Captain





USA-Illinois- the Chi

super skiny Im a post!

 
   
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Boston

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Long-Range Black Templar Land Speeder Pilot





The Norse Lands

My doctors actually forcing me to eat, im a type 1 diabetic, 17 years old, and i way 119 llbs....
So im just too skinny, not like anorexic, skeletal, but pretty bad. When i went to the beach my sister said i looked like an Auschwitz victim .

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Deadly Dire Avenger



Norrkoping Sweden

I'm pretty normal... but as there are many americans here I might be skinny. Should change the poll to BMI instead.

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Rampaging Reaver Titan Princeps






Am about 1.69m tall and just under 80kg, so I'm heading into overweight territory. Though I am quite barrel chested as well.
   
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Angelic Adepta Sororitas




I'm a body builder. I can hardly put overweight beause that gives entirely the wrong impression. Why is there no athletic answer? 5 of the people at my local club are ruby players for goodness sake.
   
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Automated Rubric Marine of Tzeentch






6 ft 4in and Obese.

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Hellacious Havoc




San Diego, CA

I've actually managed to put on some weight in the last few months. I used to be around 115-120, now I'm a solid 140+

Most people don't like when they see they've put on weight, but after being so underweight for so long it's an awesome sight for me

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Maniacal Gibbering Madboy






Santa Clara, CA

Congrats Piz! I know exactly what you mean. I was stuck at 120 all through junior high school even though I ate a ton... I was finally able to put more weight on in high school.

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Khorne Chosen Marine Riding a Juggernaut





Breaking Something Valuable

I work out, I run, I ski... I'm in great shape.

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Decrepit Dakkanaut






Underweight, can't gain anything, regardless of what I eat.
   
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Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps







Soladrin wrote:Underweight, can't gain anything, regardless of what I eat.


Try napping after a big meal, and only having a single, massive meal a day.

   
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Khorne Chosen Marine Riding a Juggernaut





Breaking Something Valuable

Or work out. Muscle builds more weight than fat.

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Revving Ravenwing Biker





Springfield, Oregon

Athletic

 
   
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Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps







Asgeirr Darkwolf wrote:Or work out. Muscle builds more weight than fat.


Yes but muscle is harder to build than fat, and if he is having trouble even getting to a healthy weight...

I love muscular definition tho. Sometimes I just feel my abs for gaks and giggles...probably some deep psychological flaw behind that but oh well

   
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Daemonic Dreadnought






AL

Just a tad over

40-44 inch chest (depends on sport I'm active with, Boxing and Wrestling, 44 swimming and track 40)

30-32 inch waist


and a tad of flab in the middle

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Boosting Black Templar Biker






I started playing tabletop games when I was 9, and I was underweight and very skinny until I was 19, when I started lifting weights. Now I'm average weight for my height. I'm no bodybuilder though.
   
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Hellish Haemonculus






Boskydell, IL

I am very underweight. (I am 6 feet tall and around 120 lb.) I think that while gamers in general tend to be a bit on the hefty side, that wargamers tend to swing back towards the middle of the spectrum.

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Decrepit Dakkanaut






im2randomghgh wrote:
Soladrin wrote:Underweight, can't gain anything, regardless of what I eat.


Try napping after a big meal, and only having a single, massive meal a day.


I already do that XD Can't be bothered to make food more then once (I'm a lazy git).

Also, I do work out, but for some reason I don't get bigger muscles they just seem to get denser. I also used to cycle 15 miles a day to school and work ( in total about 8 years ). So my legs are awesomely powerful And even though I'm quite a heavy smokey (might help with the underweight issue btw) I'm a great sprinter

I weigh like 70 kilo's right now. And I'm 1,86m.

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Crushing Black Templar Crusader Pilot




Philippines

Somewhat in-between 2 and 3 for me, a few months ago i'd definetely be choosing #3

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Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps







Soladrin wrote:
im2randomghgh wrote:
Soladrin wrote:Underweight, can't gain anything, regardless of what I eat.


Try napping after a big meal, and only having a single, massive meal a day.


I already do that XD Can't be bothered to make food more then once (I'm a lazy git).

Also, I do work out, but for some reason I don't get bigger muscles they just seem to get denser. I also used to cycle 15 miles a day to school and work ( in total about 8 years ). So my legs are awesomely powerful And even though I'm quite a heavy smokey (might help with the underweight issue btw) I'm a great sprinter

I weigh like 70 kilo's right now. And I'm 1,86m.


Well sprinting, cycling, and bodyweight exercises aren't gonna get you bigger muscles! Also though, if you continue to up your muscle density, it will eventually grow somewhat, with the added benefit of DEFINITION! Something great for density AND mass is kayaking, you should try it. I started one day and it was as if muscles were magnetised to me I am one of the top kayakers in my province.

   
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Maryland

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