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kendoka wrote:
Not impressed. *Card* board tiles = flashback of 1995 card terrain!
I thought (hoped) those dark times were long past.

I agree (shudders) the card terrain was irritable however i am making some terrain from a set of moulds i have and if it doesn't work i will use stuff!

I guess if they wanted to do something different, they could have made acryllic tiles with the printing on the underside or something simple like that.

Not at all interested in this. I hate tyranids and loathe Marines, there's absolutely zero nostalgia value in this either as I've never been one to sing SH's praises. It's always seemed like such a limited game.

ShumaGorath wrote:Litko aerosystems joke.

Unfortunately I already made that joke about 6 pages back...
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/60/252763.page#912076

Order Placed.

Works great for me, since I never bought termies for my BA.

I own Descent (Base game and all but latest expansion) and Doom (Both boxes) from FFG. And if the Space Hulk tiles are anywhere near their quality, I will be very satisfied

Considering GWs recent dealings with FFG, I am hoping they went to the same people who created the Descent/Doom tiles.

The durability of those is fantastic. I would never find the time to paint all the plastic needed to create a SH board. Plus the price would have at least been double.

Now if they do a plastic battleforce sized corridor set separately, I may have to consider it.

So what rules does this game use? The last edition didn't have a Librarian or Broodlord (Patriarch) IIRC. Are all the rules updated or just little extras added for the new units?

The Power Cosmic wrote:I want this, but I just can't justify $100. Not when I'm working on a Ork army and planning for Warmachine mkii. Maybe one of my friends will get it.

Never fear, it is done. You may have to play the stealers for our first game, though...

I love the models and would have liked plastic tiles, but fine with cardboard.

The GW rumor mongering, meh. I think it's silly to feel lied to, that's a bit dramatic. Car companies prosecute people who sneak shots of their concept cars. I think GW has mishandled rumors for awhile and it hurts them overall with those of us who want to be excited, but not enough they can see it. Back in the day, red shirts used to have access to a "special" website and I downloaded a realease schedule with new fantasy chaos, ogre kindoms, at least three years of advance stuff. We used to whip customers into a frenzy because WE were excited. I think this works a lot better. We had over twenty preorders for the necron box in our store alone. How many do they get now-adays for army boxes?

ITT

those figs are dead sexy.. can't wait.. of course they will sit on the shelf too till our codex is redone

Ozymandias wrote:So what rules does this game use? The last edition didn't have a Librarian or Broodlord (Patriarch) IIRC. Are all the rules updated or just little extras added for the new units?

My opinion is that the rules are the 1st edition plus the Deathwing and Genestealer expansions. That's based on the type of dice, egg timer (1st edition) and the presence of Libby and Broodlord (magic.)

They may have tinkered with it a bit. I haven't looked closely enough to see if grenade launchers and assault cannons feature.

I've been hoping for a re-release of the game that hooked me into this hobby so I'm thrilled and already placed an order.

Would I have loved plastic corridors and walls ... you bet !! I wonder if it may be something GW is planning for the future? Someone a few pages back mentioned that saw some pre-production mock-ups. Who knows ??

When I placed my order, by phone to speak with a human, I confirmed that the miniatures are, indeed, 40K scale. Whew !!! Although I am a little worried they may be bendy "army men" plastic ... the bases look too much like the old green toy soldiers.

Myrthe wrote:...When I placed my order, by phone to speak with a human, I confirmed that the miniatures are, indeed, 40K scale. Whew !!! Although I am a little worried they may be bendy "army men" plastic ... the bases look too much like the old green toy soldiers.

They also said the mystery box is not Space Hulk...
Mick

Agamemnon2 wrote:Not at all interested in this. I hate tyranids and loathe Marines, there's absolutely zero nostalgia value in this either as I've never been one to sing SH's praises. It's always seemed like such a limited game.

I actually agree here, except for the tyrannids thing.

As for nostalgia - the game was fun to play but it just wasn't that good. I totally agree with the "limited game". As a big board game player (from Twilight Imperium through to AA + varients, M44 and silly games like dungeon twister) I feel I can state with no hesitation that there is no way that $100US represents good value board game wise. The likes of all the big games that contain hundreds of parts is around $80. Games like M44 and its ilk are around $50 and the quality is usually A+.

Are people sure on the price point?

Does anyone one with previous Space Hulk experience know if it is worth having two of these boxed sets for the extra tiles?

Would you ever play a game where you'd need that much board space?

Or, would the extra tiles only ever factor in if you plan on using them in some other setting (RPG Rogue Trader and/or Dark Heresy)?

Heh, I've noticed that all Terminators are named.

As for nostalgia - the game was fun to play but it just wasn't that good. I totally agree with the "limited game". As a big board game player (from Twilight Imperium through to AA + varients, M44 and silly games like dungeon twister) I feel I can state with no hesitation that there is no way that $100US represents good value board game wise. The likes of all the big games that contain hundreds of parts is around $80. Games like M44 and its ilk are around $50 and the quality is usually A+.

I think you may want to go back and actually look at the quality of the twilight imperium pack ins. It's a fun game, but I've gotten better models in happy meals. A lot of what's probably being paid for is higher class models and an expansive rulebook.

Extra tiles might come in handy if you play some of the old scenarios from the 1st edition and expansions or want to do boarding actions in 40k...
Mick

Bla_Ze wrote:ITT

A furry! Purge him!

Car companies prosecute people who sneak shots of their concept cars.

Well when GW turns into a car company then maybe you'll have a point. But even then I have to disagree with you...

Remember a movie called Transformers? Chevrolet started showing off their new Camaro years before it was released (I remember seeing pics of the concept even before that, though), and I'll be damned if it didn't get me hyped up for it. I signed up for the newsletter so I could keep following up on it until it finally came out this year, and have tried to enter every Camaro-related contest I can find (I still have over 40 Dr. Pepper caps to redeem...ugh). I personally can't afford to buy one no matter how much I want one, but that's not the point, I was still excited and couldn't wait to see them on the road for the first time.

Do you really think it would have been better for Chevy to keep the thing under wraps until the day of release, and spring it on people as a surprise? I don't think so, advertising like that is invaluable, and apparently Chevy thinks so too because damn near every new robot in Transformers: RotF was a god-damned Chevy, they're pimping cars like mad now. Speaking of which how much do you want to bet that Stingray concept in the new movie might end up on the streets one day?

but I've gotten better models in happy meals

You lie!

BrookM wrote:Heh, I've noticed that all Terminators are named.

I noticed that too. I guess they wanted us to care about our battle brothers or something. Just gives me someone to blame and designate the sacrificial lamb. Someone on warseer also said some of the non-pictured ones have assault terminator weapons. I wouldn't be surprised if a number of models beyond the librarians and heavy weapons have special abilities.

Mick A wrote:

Myrthe wrote:...When I placed my order, by phone to speak with a human, I confirmed that the miniatures are, indeed, 40K scale. Whew !!! Although I am a little worried they may be bendy "army men" plastic ... the bases look too much like the old green toy soldiers.

They also said the mystery box is not Space Hulk...
Mick

Agreed .... but that was a lame, misguided PR marketting ploy and not a direct lie about a product they are selling. Then again, we have the recent Blastscape fiasco so we just have to "wait and see". If it's crap, GW can take it back ... nostalgia be damned !!!

aka_mythos wrote:I noticed that too. I guess they wanted us to care about our battle brothers or something. Just gives me someone to blame and designate the sacrificial lamb.

Brother Starscream, you've failed me for the last time!

Archonate wrote:

Maybe this IS the love and attention that BAs get in 5th Edition...

That's just what I was thinking. What was the basis for those rumours of new Blood Angels and Tyranids? Because this could be it, which would put the new Blood Angels and Tyranid Codexes further back than we thought. That'd be a good thing IMO, other armies need updating more urgently.

As far as Space Hulk goes, it looks great, but I simply can't afford it with such short notice. Even if I did have £60 spare this week, I'd spend it on going to London for my old friend's 24th birthday.

I hope Sgt. Apone does not take Pvt. Vasquez heavy weapon away. There aways Hudson to leave to face huggers oops wait genestealers.

Alpharius wrote:Does anyone one with previous Space Hulk experience know if it is worth having two of these boxed sets for the extra tiles?

Would you ever play a game where you'd need that much board space?

Or, would the extra tiles only ever factor in if you plan on using them in some other setting (RPG Rogue Trader and/or Dark Heresy)?

The problem with a game like Space Hulk is balancing scenarios. The addition of literally one square can make a difference to a very tight scenario. The scenarios in the game are naturally all based on having a single copy.

You can make up bigger scenarios the more copies you have, but expect them to become less balanced in unexpected ways the bigger you make them.

It can still be fun to play a really big, home-brew scenario.

Space Hulk always was about impossible odds and the unfairness of it all.

I think having as many abilities as they may have mixed in will open things up for more add on rules. It makes it simple enough to say "ork mega nobz" count as brother "A", "B", and "C" getting duplicates of a couple.

Who here is up for doing up some rules for other factions when SH is finally out?

fullheadofhair wrote:

Agamemnon2 wrote:Not at all interested in this. I hate tyranids and loathe Marines, there's absolutely zero nostalgia value in this either as I've never been one to sing SH's praises. It's always seemed like such a limited game.

I actually agree here, except for the tyrannids thing.

As for nostalgia - the game was fun to play but it just wasn't that good. ... ...

You're kidding, right?

How did Space Hulk make the list of 100 Best Hobby Games if it wasn't that good.

Original, first edition Space Hulk was a bloody brilliant game. It started to go downhill once magic was introduced. Second edition was a much worse game.

aka_mythos wrote:I think having as many abilities as they may have mixed in will open things up for more add on rules. It makes it simple enough to say "ork mega nobz" count as brother "A", "B", and "C" getting duplicates of a couple.

Who here is up for doing up some rules for other factions when SH is finally out?

That sounds like something I'm going to have to do to get some of my friends to be enthusiastic about it. Not that I would mind anyway.

How did Space Hulk make the list of 100 Best Hobby Games if it wasn't that good.

100 is a big list for a topic that should have a fairly short list?

TBD wrote:I wanted plastic tiles too, at first, but you (should) quickly realize that it would make the price go up so significantly that's it's rather unrealistic to expect.

I'm sure that for most people the cardboard option outweighs the alternative of paying at least double the price they are asking now.

No ... its false assumptions like this that allows GW to raise the price to insane lvls.
More realistically having plastic instead of card board would only increase the cost by $1-$2 at most.

Just cut up and glue some plasticard to the bottom of the tiles.



Problem solved.