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Oh, I do loves these vehicles. Your skills are very inspiring. Keep this history alive!

I also want to paint them. A lot.

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@AkaMythos
Ah, ok, couldn't recall your complete idea. I honestly couldn't figure out how to make it more"truck-like" in the back without skewing the prorportions of the front. The back part is a bit squished, not sure if 5 marines could actually fit in there, not sure what else I could have done. The Epic bike turned out better than I thought it would, not great, but ok! Its going to be my bike sgt., which is why he has a powerfist. Way back when, I gave my bike sgt. a thunderhammer and shield, options you don't have anymore, hehe. It may have been better for my MotF, but I like it as it is!

@BrianCJ
Thanks, I really enjoy the history aspect of all this, if I ever get my collection in one place I'll start doing side by side shots and whatnot!
Here you go, my Rogue Trader gallery, hehe!

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@weetyskemian44
Thanks! This is actually my second attempt at the hovering deoderant stick! My first one was simply based on the pic of the original one from the old White Dwarf. I pretty much just threw it together. This second one actually followed the original instructions, more or less. Like the use of spoons and the weapons layout. The original used bits from the old Zoids toys, which are not worth buying for just the bits, so I used alternatives that kept with the spirit of the original.

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You do some amazing work!

The deoderant hover vehicle def takes the cake of the last few updates Juts about made me fall out of my chair!

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Thanks logg_frogg, I'm glad you think so, but its nothing that most hobbyists couldn't replicate with a little effort.
Haha, you can probably find pics of the original floating around the web!

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Just a quick update! I recently acquired a photocopy of a particular article from Citadel Journal 7, which covered some basic ideas for converting up unique looking Predator and Razorback tanks c. 1994. Included are the instructions and rules for what the author called a Techmarine Rhino, which is exactly what it sounds like. It uses the old Razorback Turret and is armed with a big claw for repairs and CC, as well as a super powered magna flash light, which you used to blind your enemies while you try to repair your damaged vehicle. As I've said, I love this stuff, so I had to make one for myself!


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...wait I thought IG were the ones who use flashlights?

Looking good. Are the two 2nd edition bolters in the plan or were you just missing the original rhino's bolters?

I think you need to start painting.
   
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I pretty much just copied the one the author of the article built, save for the smoke launchers, but he used the infantry bolters in place of the ones that came with the Rhino, it looks quite nice actually. Technically, I'm not done with the build. I'll be adding a techmarine gunner at some point. Yes...paint...


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Oh, it's called a Magna-beam Searchlight, not sure if that's any different to what your thinking of as an IG flashlight.

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For IG, every basic infantryman has a S3 AP- flashlight.
   
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Looking at its data sheet from Citadel Journal 7 the Magna-beam Saerchlight is not really a weapon. It has no strength or AP value whatsoever. It has a range of 24" and shoots a 1 1/2 blast marker that blinds targets using the rules of that time, hehe.

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Heliodore wrote:Just a quick update! I recently acquired a photocopy of a particular article from Citadel Journal 7, which covered some basic ideas for converting up unique looking Predator and Razorback tanks c. 1994...[/url]


What other neat ideas did the article have?

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Hey! Well, other than the Techmarine Rhino, the article demonstrated how a SM player could mix it up a bit by adding Lemun Russ parts to make unique looking Razerbacks and Predator tanks. The author showed off his "Armored Razorback," which used the LRuss turret fitted wth the las/plas combo, since back in the day the standard RB turret was open topped with an exposed gunner. In addition, he made what he called a MkII Predator by pretty much taking a MkI Predator and putting the LRuss's side sponsons on it. Remember, this article was written before the pewter/ plastic Predator Destructor and Annihilator kits were out, so one's options were limited. Hope that answers your question!

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Hey, Helio!

I have come into possession of a Stormlord/Shadowsword kit. And I'm looking for wacky ideas on what to do with it.

Any thoughts from your experience, collection? I'm pondering, maybe, a superheavy missile battery, but since you've been trolling the old old articles, I was wondering if you'd come across anything of note, aside from what's already been made on the "Epic" scale.

Thanks!

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Hey Briancj!

Well, I have two things: 1. Much like the Fellblade is the SM equivalent of the Baneblade. There was also mention of a SM Shadowsword equivalent, which was called a Mammoth (at least in most recent fluff, because if you go back further than the HH CCG, you'll find other names used for the Fellblade and Mammoth respectively, the Glaive was one, off the top of my head.) So, yes, the SM Mammoth, which in essence would be you doing to your Shadowsword what I did to the BB kit to make my Fellblade all the way back in pg. 1.

2. This idea goes more into the direction you mentioned. If you recall, a US based company called Armorcast used to have a license from GW to make official models, like the original Baneblade/Shadowsword resin model you see from time to time. At one point Armorcast was planning on doing other varients of the BB, but this never happened, probably due to GW pulling the license and creating Forgeworld. Well, one such variant was the Stormblade, which I believe never even existed in Epic (not 100% sure). Below is the link to a collectors site with pics of the unreleased prototype:

http://www.collecting-citadel-miniatures.com/wiki/index.php/File:Armorcast_Unreleased_Stormblade_Conversion.jpg

As you can see, quite the missile battery!

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This is wrong on so many levels. I had the Armorcast BB/SS combo kit (two of 'em!) a decade ago. HMMMMMMMMM.

Thank you.

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Hehe, those were fun kits! One day I'd like to get my hands on the super detailed BB kit that Armorcast put out in addition to the combo kit!

That Stormblade is crazy, it looks like a Shadowsword (whatever that big cannon thing is meant to be) with both the armament of a manticore and deathstrike, and then whatever that single side turret is! Good luck and have fun!

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In addition, I did a bit of looking around, and the old Stormblade was indeed an Epic model, and that currently FW has their own Stormblade kit, however, it doesn't have missiles, but retains the Large Plasma Cannon (I guess that's what the big cannon thing is on the Armorcast one). So, the missile variant would still be mighty unique.

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@Briancj ...You could so easily do the four racked missiles by taking a Manticore kit and putting the launcher on the side of your BB chassis. The single larger missile on the Stormblade isn't as large as a Deathstrike, but if you buy the manticore kit I think you could easily salvage and convert the deathstrike missile into that Stormblade's single larger missile.
   
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Well, I already have a Deathstrike...which I should actually finish. I may have an 'Epic'ally bad idea forming, we'll see.

Thanks for all the suggestions!

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I didn't mean to count it as a deathstrike since it suppose to be an all together a different big missile. Just that you could use the bits and pieces if you were intent on converting such a tank.
   
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Just thought I'd post some pics of this old model I recently aquired, seeing as there are very few images of it online. This is the very first 40k scaled Space Marine Drop Pod model ever produced under a GW license by Epicast in 1995. Much like the Epic Drop Pod this is based on, it has three varients: a Deathwind pod (pretty much today's deathwind missile launcher), Support pod (which is a heavy plasma cannon turret), and the Assualt pod (standard transport). It's a pretty ugly model, and has a lot of casting issues, but I love old pieces of GW history, so fixing it up is part of the fun, I even have the original box!





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I would love it if they made a kit for those "ball" drop-pods. I think I like its shape a bit more than the current kits.

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Wow! you sure do have some crazy stuff!

 
   
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- could we have a pic of the box? I love the old artwork.

   
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Nice find! I totally remember the epic pods.

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@Zuul: Yeah, that would be cool, I wonder if FW would ever consider it, hehe, probably not. My brother made one using a Gerbal/Hamster ball, here:



@Capitansolstice: Thanks, one day when all my stuff is in one place I'd like to make a website comparing all the old and new SM models out there!

@weetyskemian44 : Sadly, there is no artwork to speak of, just a black and white photocopied picture of the model. Epicast was practically a one man operation, a fellow named Nick Tompkins, out of California. This was before Forge World, and dare I say, the frontier days of GW!

@jabbakahut: It was all a bit before my time, epic was just fading away, and when I started - drop pods were soda cans, hehe!



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I don't know!

Gongrats on the nice find man! Keep it up!

   
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This had me going to ebay to search for fun old stuff, someone has the old RT metal thunderhawk up for sale.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/280758014070?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_500wt_1146

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jabbakahut wrote:This had me going to ebay to search for fun old stuff, someone has the old RT metal thunderhawk up for sale.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/280758014070?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_500wt_1146


I saw that too. I had to question how long I could stand to survive on ramen...

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Haha, I've been eyeing that auction! I think if I'm going to blow that much money a few hundred more dollars would be worth getting one still in its box and unused and complete!
Maybe I'll just scratchbuild one, but for uniquness sakes I'd do a scaled up version of the other oop Epic T-hawk:


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The epic scale thunderhawk design is pretty nice. Have you seen this yet? It seems like a good reference.

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