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Necros wrote:Just wondering what this game is like? I never played any of the old ones. But I'm lookin for a fun and long adventure/rpg game that doesn't get boring but will take a long time to finish. Not as into the online multiplayer shooting stuff like I used to be, I'm mostly looking for a relax on the sofa kinda game.

Fallout 1 and 2 were totally different games than Fallout 3 and New Vegas (and Fallout Tactics is a different category from any of these). So, don't judge this game based on the first 2, for good or for bad.

It's a really long game with lots to explore. There's plenty of secrets to find and plenty of quests to do. You can't finish everything in one game, so there's definitely some replay value.

The gameplay itself is a lot like a FPS with RPG elements. If you've played any Bethesda games (Morrowind, Oblivion, ect) then you have a good idea of what to expect. The battles play like a FPS, but plenty of the game is talking to NPCs and accomplishing tasks through investigating things.

Cool that's pretty much what I'm looking for. I liked Borderlands a lot, but that was mostly just WOW kill stuff quests stuck in a FPS and once I got to the end I never looked back

halonachos wrote:Well at least you won't have to worry about having your weapons taken away at the camp.

Oooh, cool question. Which factions are on your 'to do list' and which have you already done in?

For me I already did in the White Glove Society and plan to get the Omertas, Caeser's Legion, Brotherhood of Steel, and the Powder Gangers.

Van Graffs are up there for me just for the amount of loot you could score for taking them out. Caeser's Legion would be fun to obliterate before the last battle to see how that would affect them.

I wiped most of the Tops crew cause they were harboring Benny and I like it when people around the wasteland give me props for it. That's right Mr. House's personal executioner is here.

Necros wrote:Just wondering what this game is like? I never played any of the old ones. But I'm lookin for a fun and long adventure/rpg game that doesn't get boring but will take a long time to finish. Not as into the online multiplayer shooting stuff like I used to be, I'm mostly looking for a relax on the sofa kinda game.

Get Fallout 3. Better imo and only 20 bucks now.

I liked Fallout 3 better, but NV is still good. I liked 3's settings and DC is better than Vegas. I would have liked to try 3 in NV's hardcore mode. Much less purified water running around 3 would have made that game much harder.

I have found the Sniper rifle, upgraded, much better than the anti-material rifle. It fires faster and with a few perks (finesse, Boone's Beret,etc..) I'm getting critical hits everywhere. I took out all the Deathclaws at the Quarry around level 15 with not a single one coming close to me. A silenced sniper rifle on top of the Quarry conveyor belt owns the place.

Along those lines, IMO the Sniper rifle character is the best in the game. There are a lot less close combats in NV and more open space for the Sniper to shine.

The NV map looks smaller, but is actually bigger than 3's and there are definitly more sidequests in NV. I've run through twice and there are whole sections that I haven't touched yet. I also find non-hardcore mode way to easy in NV than in 3. I was 4th level and had gotten to Vegas (running through Scorpion Gulch with stimpacks a plenty). I walked into the Van Graffs and stole the Plasma Defender pistol and ran out. I walked into the Tops and killed Benny behind the front desk and ran out again - chugging stimpacks like candy. I jumped 2 levels just from doing that. If I bring enough stim's I can take down the Fort by myself.

Speaking of which in my first go around I killed every in Cottoncove (I hate slavers). Later I wanted the platinum chip and went to the dock, but no one was there. I eventually looked at the wharf and it transported my to the Fort. My 20th level super sniper took out everyone in the place. (Once again non-hardcore mode is to easy). With Caesar dead all you get is random NCR troops mentioning they are happy Caesar is dead, but nothing else changes for the storyline. I would have thought the Legion would have packed up and left with his death.

Unfortunatley the Legion seems to be a hydra when it comes to leadership. If the game is to easy for you increase the difficulty from easy to difficult. Hardcore is just a different way to play, more along the lines of mantianing your character rarther than making the game harder.

Yes, but I agree i definately would like to try harcore mode in DC. NV is an easy place to live quite frankly.

For me personally, having been a massive fan of FO1 and 2, FO3 and New Vegas suck balls.

filbert wrote:For me personally, having been a massive fan of FO1 and 2, FO3 and New Vegas suck balls.

What I find interesting is that a number of folks I know that were introduced to FO3 and NV think that FO 1 and 2 su are not fun enough to play, at least more than an hour or so.

I am in no real position to whine on either end. I like them both.

I have all of the games and yes fo1 and fo2 look awesome and are fun to play, they are really different games from fo 3 and fonv, so you shoudln't compare them on gameplay imho.

Yet story wise I think they match up really well. Alot of the plots and ideas from the first two games have carried over and have been expanded on from what I have seen.

One thing I think is funny is how pooplated the post apocalyptic world is. People survived in chicago, dc, california, nevada all over the place!!!


Edit: I meant to say populated but that spelling is funny.

Pael wrote:I have all of the games and yes fo1 and fo2 look awesome and are fun to play, they are really different games from fo 3 and fonv, so you shoudln't compare them on gameplay imho.

Yet story wise I think they match up really well. Alot of the plots and ideas from the first two games have carried over and have been expanded on from what I have seen.

One thing I think is funny is how pooplated the post apocalyptic world is. People survived in chicago, dc, california, nevada all over the place!!!


Edit: I meant to say populated but that spelling is funny.

Well it is a couple hundered years in the future so the population should have been able to rebound a little bit also a lot of people survived in the vaults. Maybe it does seem a little to hospitable but there are plenty of mutated critters out there to make up for it.

I noticed a small lack of kids in the game which makes it good in the fact that I am closer to being able to kill everything in the wasteland.

The problem I come across are the kids in the CL camp. If I attack the camp will they turn hostile? If they turn hostile and I can't kill them what happens when everyone else is dead? I mean leaving two kids alone in the fort makes no sense to me.

Any one else WASTE the time to get the Chinese stealth suit? Only +5 to stealth what!?! FO3 gave +75 and holofield. What were they thinking???

halonachos wrote:I noticed a small lack of kids in the game which makes it good in the fact that I am closer to being able to kill everything in the wasteland.

The problem I come across are the kids in the CL camp. If I attack the camp will they turn hostile? If they turn hostile and I can't kill them what happens when everyone else is dead? I mean leaving two kids alone in the fort makes no sense to me.

They show as hostile ticks on your compass, but if you get close they just run away.

Pael wrote:Any one else WASTE the time to get the Chinese stealth suit? Only +5 to stealth what!?! FO3 gave +75 and holofield. What were they thinking???

Yeah I thought that was lame as well. At least it's easy to repair.

Yeah I got the stelth suit and was extremly dissapointed about it but oh well such is life.

One thing that's really weird about NV is its more like Oblivion than FO3. Which is weird because its made by the guys who did FO1 and 2. Whereas FO3 is made by the guys who did Oblivion. Way too much of what is basically Alchemey in the game. I have absolutely no intest is saving my shell casings to make my own frikkin bullets.

For example, I found a new blueprint and was like "sweet is this going to be a blueprint for gun that like shoots railway spikes so that when you blow a guys head off it literally nails his head to the wall!?!"

Nope, its a recipe for stew. Fail NV, Fail.

haha yeah its a bit extreme in that case. Like the quest to go find a deathclaw egg to make a deathclaw omelet. Sure risk my life for breakfast... not gonna happen.

ugh, I know. Like I care about an omlette. At least in FO3 you'd probably get a gas-powered sword that's like on fire and then when you hit people it sets them on fire!
...omlette

KamikazeCanuck wrote:ugh, I know. Like I care about an omlette. At least in FO3 you'd probably get a gas-powered sword that's like on fire and then when you hit people it sets them on fire!
...omlette

Hey! Omelettes are freakin' delicious, definitely better tasting than any gas-powered sword I've ever made.

Fine, I will trade you my omlette for your firesword.

You'll have to come to DC to get it though... plus its technically not mine. So yes, I am more than willing to trade you a flame sword for an omelette.

Your omlette is in the mail.

KamikazeCanuck wrote:Way too much of what is basically Alchemey in the game. I have absolutely no intest is saving my shell casings to make my own frikkin bullets.

1. Learn the crafting system
2. Get Hand Loader perk.
3. Lay waste.

no thank you. I'd rather pick a good perk.

My biggest problem with the game was how at the end it gave me experience and then ended it. Iwas like OMGWTFBBQ!

It was fun but i hope fallout 4 actually uses a new engine.

Did you play the dlc? Broken steel lets you extend your level to 30.

Pael wrote:Did you play the dlc? Broken steel lets you extend your level to 30.

I think he was referring to New Vegas. For whatever reason, New Vegas has the same issue as Fallout 3. Once you complete the main storyline, it's game over.

I assume they'll be releasing some DLC to change this, eventually.

There is a mod to enable you to play on after the main story ends

If you play on PC.

ChocolateGork wrote:If you play on PC.

If you are playing it on a console then I feel pity for you.

Given the buggy heap of gak that Fallout 3 was on release, the only redeeming feature of playing it on a PC was at least a minor possibility of some the game breaking bugs being patched. The same is true of NV - same engine, same bugs. Obsidian strike again with their god awful coding.