GW to order retailers to stop shipping to southern hemisphere...

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**Kanluwen**

Nvs wrote:Has there been any supporting evidence provided on any of this yet? From page one this sounded anecdotal and I'm not sure anything has changed 10 pages later.

Maelstrom has confirmed that they can as of May 31st no longer ship to outside of the European Union(nor to Norway and Switzerland).

And as an ignorant american, can you explain just why the Australian prices are so inflated? Is there a fee GW is passing onto the consumers for exporting to AUS?

Because many prices for many goods in Australia were set during a timeframe when the AUD was trending high in the exchange rates.

It no longer is, and goods were not changed to reflect that.

**penek**

Time to say

Spoiler:

goodbye GW!

ps. its not southern hemisphere, its everyone not living in EU\USA
pps. and Russian GW "Distributor" sell only Boxed product, no blisters...

**Lord of Deeds**

Nvs wrote:Has there been any supporting evidence provided on any of this yet? From page one this sounded anecdotal and I'm not sure anything has changed 10 pages later.

European retailer confirmed the new trade terms (see post somewhere on page 8 IIRC).

Nvs wrote:And as an ignorant american, can you explain just why the Australian prices are so inflated? Is there a fee GW is passing onto the consumers for exporting to AUS?

Hate to the answer a question with a question, but explain to me how a customer in Australia or anywhere outside of Europe can order a relatively small amount of product, have it shipped thousands of miles via a carton carrier for substantially less than what they can purchase the same product at a local retailer?

Obviously they shouldn’t, unless of course the manufacturer has artificially inflated their prices on the incorrect assumption that people are idiots ard would never, ever use the internet to source products but instead would always slavishly buy from the local retailer, regardless of the price.

**ChrisWWII**

Well, looks like I'm going to be only buying GW products when I'm in the UK now. Suddenly studying abroad has proven a major good thing.

**Shaman**

Its 2:40 am in Oz so it'll be a while before this thread goes off.

I love how this will do nothing though.

Nice one legoburner on that UK forwarding address, I imagine that will become a popular option.

I had some purchases in mind for about 6months from now.. Don't know if I can personally be bothered with the forwarding address thing. But maybe one of these things will become recommended like maelstrom was.

Edit: This embargo or whatever doesn't affect the US though does it. So Aussies/kiwis could just by form US stores right?

**Delephont**

Jeeze, what to do? Finish off my DE army, or jump ship now and sink money into PP (already spending "heavily on Infinity

)......

PP here I come

**Howard A Treesong**

Thing is I'm looking at Australia as a place I may move to work. I don't buy much GW anyway, so would probably get stuff on eBay or ask my parents to buy it.

Australian house prices/rent is insane though. What the hell's wrong with the place? Other than that, having a BBQ for christmas seems ok and the wife is coming around to the idea of living in a place with spiders.

**Kroothawk**

Here the official statement by Maelstrom:

Hi there,

It's a sad day for us here at Maelstrom Games (www.maelstromgames.co.uk) for we have the unpleasant task of informing all of our Rest of the World customers that Games Workshop will no longer allow us to sell their products to you - but here's an 18% off UK RRP voucher to soften the blow!

GW NO LONGER ALLOWING US TO SELL TO ROW CUSTOMERS
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Games Workshop's new Terms and Conditions, which come into force on the 31st of May 2011 restrict the sale - among other things - of all of their products to the European Union, although there are a couple of countries (such as Norway and Switzerland) that are geographically within Europe but not in the EU that we can still sell to.

The full list of countries that we can sell GW products to is as follows:

Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland, Estonia, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, United Kingdom

Obviously this means that all of our faithful Games Workshop customers from the Anglosphere - Australia, Canada, New Zealand and the United States - as well as those from Brazil, Chile, Peru, Russia, Japan and South Korea (apologies for those countries I have missed out) will now miss out on our superb service and cheap prices, but I'm afraid the terms and conditions of our contract with Games Workshop mean that we have to say goodbye.

Goodbye 18% UK RRP Voucher

But it's a cracking goodbye! From today until midnight (GMT) on the 30th of May all our customers will be able to use a 18% off UK RRP discount voucher code on Games Workshop products only, so you stock up on all of those items you'll need for your Warhammer, Warhammer 40,000 or Lord of the Rings armies - and of course all your paints and brushes!
(...)
Finecast

Onto other Games Workshop news. We'll shortly be stocking their superb Finecast range, which - if you didn't know already - is most of their deleted metal models, re-released in resin but somewhat more expensive than the original. Those will be on general sale on the 28th of May, for Games Workshop do not wish us to put them up for sale until then so they can keep up with demand.

**Kilkrazy**

Howard A Treesong wrote:Thing is I'm looking at Australia as a place I may move to work. I don't buy much GW anyway, so would probably get stuff on eBay or ask my parents to buy it.

Australian house prices/rent is insane though. What the hell's wrong with the place? Other than that, having a BBQ for christmas seems ok and the wife is coming around to the idea of living in a place with spiders.

**Melissia**

Wait, it also includes the US? Geeze, GW is stupid sometimes.

**Dais**

I try not to comment on GW's nonsense much any more but I can't believe they are pulling this stunt.
Love it or hate it online retailers have become an important part of the wargaming supply lines. They offer stock to those not close to a local gaming store as well as an alternative when your local gaming store is rather unfriendly. It isn't just that 'boo hoo, aulstralieans are stuck with gw's absurd prices again" its also the fact that business are losing out on sales that aren't even gw. Maybe someone dose not buy those two bottles of paint with their regiment of fantasy knights (whatever the unit boxes are called these days), or maybe someone thinks those stores stop selling outside the uk in general because they know they can't sell gw outside the uk. This is really messing with people's livelihoods. This is just a bad move for the wargaming hobby in general.
Maybe some of this has been touched on in the previous ten pages, and if so I apologize for not adding anything of meaning, but I tend to skip quote wars.

**hlaine.larkin**

Delephont wrote:Surely this "request" from GW, if indeed the rumour is true, would be impossible to enforce....who a retailer sells to is outside the control of GW.

I imagine then, that the only thing GW could do, would be to refuse to sell their products (at trade prices) to said retailer.....but as someone above rightly stated, the knock on effect to earnings would be massive.

No, I don't think this will happen....it'd be corporate suicide.

It is perfectly within their control, it's a stupid move- but as licensors of the product, they can dictate the terms and conditions of it's sale i believe.

However it is a moronic move, but people will get round it. if i have to start a warseer shop to buy things and ship them to our southern hemisphre brethren i will do so!

**ArbeitsSchu**

Mate of mine is off to live in Tasmania soon. I'll let him know to take a load of GW gear. That way he can live like a King for a year off the cost of a Land Raider...

Ebay. GW might be able to chase down "stores" but theres sweet f.a they can do about private individuals. Hell, I've sold GW stuff to Aus. before now.

I feel for Maelstrom though..This, coming off the back of that Battlefront business must feel like someone has a vendetta... and knowing some of the cretins who work for GW/BF at the top end, maybe they do?

**Kanluwen**

Melissia wrote:Wait, it also includes the US? Geeze, GW is stupid sometimes.

Regional sales do kind of mean 'regional'.

The US isn't part of the UK.

**Melissia**

Kanluwen wrote:
Melissia wrote:Wait, it also includes the US? Geeze, GW is stupid sometimes.

Regional sales do kind of mean 'regional'.

The US isn't part of the UK.

Yeah, but we aren't exactly a small market. Especially with the various Dawn of War games increasing popularity here, and the upcoming Space Marine game which will do the same...

**Kanluwen**

Melissia wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
Melissia wrote:Wait, it also includes the US? Geeze, GW is stupid sometimes.

Regional sales do kind of mean 'regional'.

The US isn't part of the UK.
Yeah, but we aren't exactly a small market. Especially with the various Dawn of War games increasing popularity here, and the upcoming Space Marine game which will do the same...

Yeah, but they don't want that small market ordering from the UK.

They want us buying from them here in the US.

**Portaljacker**

Well, now those of us in Canada are royally fethed. We're stuck paying the overinflated GW prices because they're too stupid to realize our dollar is worth more than the US dollar almost all year round now. Ordering from the UK was the only way to get a decent deal. I would jump on the deal from Maelstrom but I don't have the cash. It looks like I won't be playing for a long time now since I have other priorities in saving up my money and I don't have cheap sources like Maelstrom anymore.

**LavuranGuard**

Well this sucks and while I could get my parents in the UK to forward stuff I'll end up paying sales tax twice - 20% VAT, 12% BC sales tax plus the shipping. Looks like I'll be selling a lot of my GW stuff now as I won't be completeing those armies, back to historicals for me!

**hlaine.larkin**

bloody hell, corporate suicide or what?!

**Kroothawk**

Kanluwen wrote:The US isn't part of the UK.

Germany neither, but we may still get Maelstrom stuff

But maybe you find some store in USA selling GW stuff.

**Mithrax**

Since I'm old fashioned, there a mailing address to actually write them my displeasure about their business incompetency and utter contempt for my money?

And I mean write, not email.

**Bloodhorror**

Games Workshop's new Terms and Conditions
Firstly, Games Workshop's new Terms and Conditions, which come into force on the 31st of May 2011. These, among other things, restrict the sale of language products - i.e., rulebooks and codices that are not in English - and, most crucially of all, restrict the sale of all of their products to the European Union, although there are a couple of countries (such as Norway and Switzerland) that are geographically within Europe but not in the EU that we can still sell to.

The full list of countries that we can sell GW products to is as follows:

Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland, Estonia, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, United Kingdom

Obviously this means that all of our faithful Games Workshop customers from the Anglosphere - Australia, Canada, New Zealand and the United States - as well as those from Brazil, Chile, Peru, Russia, Japan and South Korea (apologies for those countries I have missed out) will now miss out on our superb service and cheap prices, but I'm afraid the terms and conditions of our contract with Games Workshop mean that we have to say goodbye.

**Typeline**

This is a fun game we get to play out now. How high can you raise your prices on your product until your customer just starts reproducing it on their own? Kneadite is cheap, recasting techniques are getting easier and cheaper as time goes a long. All you need is a few bits and you're in business.

Not that I'm advocating or take part in unscrupulous behavior I just like the idea of GW beheading themselves.

**Da Boss**

In my head, they are staring straight ahead with total focus and screaming enthusiastically at newbies while they do it.

**FM Ninja 048**

Mithrax wrote:Since I'm old fashioned, there a mailing address to actually write them my displeasure about their business incompetency and utter contempt for my money?

And I mean write, not email.

Games Workshop
Willow Road
Lenton
Nottingham
NG7 2WS

also note today's "What's new today" was:

'Hey y'all, we're releasing Citadel fincast, we're telling you now but not telling you anything, hey look down there, shiny Chaos army"

**JMMelo**

Would be awesome to see the reaction of some folks that were calling us "hysterical" and talking about "hissy fits" earlier on...

I am REALLY surprised they included the US and Canada on that BAN list... at least the pain is shared

Right now I suppose that means my shopping will go to the Warstore in the US, even with the US mail being so freaking expensive... Neal will be happy and the US dollars is low enough to justify it... but it wouldnt surprise me to find that in 6 months time GW will probably enforce the same terms on US retailers too... GW MTHRFCKS!

**Kanluwen**

To be fair FM Ninja...it is a pretty nice Chaos army.

**Void_walker**

See as a WHFB Empire player, I'm kind of like meh no biggy for me as there are alot of people that are doing 28mm human's.

But as I've just picked up DE, I am a bit annoyed as was going to drop a big chunk into it.

Better of buying from FW if this continues

**Howard A Treesong**

FM Ninja 048 wrote:also note today's "What's new today" was:

'Hey y'all, we're releasing Citadel fincast, we're telling you now but not telling you anything, hey look down there, shiny Chaos army"

Perhaps even after all these months of planning the change over they still haven't thought of a way to spin it as a great thing.

"Finecast" indeed, I though their miniatures were always "finely casted", is that really the best they could come up with?

**Kirasu**

Yeah... a heavy handed GW response. This is as expected although I was surprised by the restriction on shipping to the US

However, who cares.. we have our own factories and discount distributors. The real pain is for australia, canada and "other" countries

Sucks for Maelstrom too I imagine as that's a lot of lost business