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**Dr Mathias**

I honestly think that the bulk of Cruddace's army is quite old, and that he made few changes to it at all for the new WD codex- except the Command Squad which is unpainted. Even looking at that doesn't really give a lot of specifics.

**Melissia**

It's the same army as on C:WH, page 61-62.

You know, the images they used to try to get C:WH players to buy more Space Marines.

**temprus**

Sigh, it is not the same army. They both just used a white base and have red and black accent colors, not in same spots (reverse for the most part) and Crud's has metal/sliver trim, the WH codex has golden trim for the most part.

**Lord Harrab**

Wow, i really want a sisters army, and have since i started this hobby, but at metal prices its just not feasible.

**Eumerin**

Kroothawk wrote:
Eumerin wrote:Perhaps due to the fact that everyone else (including me) who's seen the most recent White Dwarf has failed to see anything in the magazine whatsoever indicating that there would be new Sisters miniatures (plastic or otherwise) on the way?

Read the previous page: GW customer service made an official statement that plastic sisters will come (don't think that this was mentioned in the WD though).

Everyone knows that plastic Sisters are being worked on. Remember the rumor-quip that the ladies were being held up because of their clothes and hair (referring to the fact that the modelers were having trouble with their veils and hair)? But we've never seen a time-table for plastics, so we have no idea what their status is. And my above quote is a specific reference to White Dwarf. The individual who started that specific reply chain stated that White Dwarf says something about plastic Sisters when there's not one mention of them within the article.

In short, yes plastic Sisters are something that GW is apparently planning to release. But they've never given us a time table, it doesn't look like they're going to come out for this WD codex, and there's no mention of them whatsoever within this month's issue of White Dwarf.

**streamdragon**

They'll probably come out alongside the tyranid second wave.

**Iggyrocksall**

Wow I didnt notice!

**MightyGodzilla**

streamdragon wrote:They'll probably come out alongside the tyranid second wave.

Tyranid second wave. That's a good one!

**Kreedos**

They may be waiting to release new models and show them off in the battle report in the second half of white dwarf. I doubt they'd leave the army with no way to gather a troop choice except spend a crazy amount of money for blisters of 3, esp when they took the time to make a new codex in the first place, why wouldn't they want to profit more off of it? They could have just left the old box set of 10 on the site, I'm sure they have a ton sitting in a warehouse, there's not that many sisters players out there.

**Melissia**

Kreedos wrote:I doubt they'd leave the army with no way to gather a troop choice except spend a crazy amount of money for blisters of 3

Why not? This is par for the course for GW's treatment of Sisters. Hell, it's already been this way for quite a few months now.

No new models for this half-assed placeholder PDF/WD ruleset. They're saving their new models for the REAL codex.

**Kreedos**

Melissia wrote:
Kreedos wrote:I doubt they'd leave the army with no way to gather a troop choice except spend a crazy amount of money for blisters of 3
Why not? This is par for the course for GW's treatment of Sisters. Hell, it's already been this way for quite a few months now.

No new models for this half-assed placeholder PDF/WD ruleset. They're saving their new models for the REAL codex.

I honestly don't think this codex is half bad, the loss of rending and +3 nonsense is a bit of a hit, but we've gained more tools and utility over pure raw damage, and if the point totals are where I think they're going to be, I think the ruleset is going to be pretty decent, and I'm excited for a lot of the new changes, like not paying 58 points a Rhino.

**Melissia**

And we've lost a lot of tools and utility too. Acts of Faith can only be used on your turn, and only one per unit, for example.

**pretre**

@kreedos: Yay, way to drag this back to the surface!

Unless you want to drag us back through the whole thing again the best idea is just to wait and see.

**Eumerin**

Kreedos wrote:They may be waiting to release new models and show them off in the battle report in the second half of white dwarf.

I could post at length on the issue and go into a decent level of analysis, but I've already learned from doing so elsewhere that there's not much point in trying when someone's entire argument boils down to, "Yeah, but they could put new Sisters models in the magazine next month," repeated ad infinitum. Suffice to say that if GW intended to sell new models, at bare minimum they wouldn't be showing off the models that were going to get replaced. That's not how GW does things.

Further, what little we know regarding the eventual plastic sisters suggests dynamically poseable plastic figures with flowing clothes (veils) and hair. Would *you* be wasting space playing up static metal figures with bobcuts if you were about to release something along the lines of what's mentioned in the previous sentence?

This codex isn't designed to sell models. It's designed to allow GW to claim with a straight face that they put out a new Sisters release in 5th edition, and remove a couple of troublesome elements that appeared when GW released the GK codex.

Also, next issue's focus is going to be on new Ogres stuff (we know this because this month's issue says so). This month's issue does *not* advertise a bunch of new Sisters models. Given the usual quantities of "Buy this new army!" stuff that always turn up, I'm surprised that there's going to be enough space for the already announced Sisters vs. Orks battle report.

**bean007**

2 metlaguns are better, but for my side, i hope to know the SoB come in plastic kit and finecast! probably be a must.

**Kroothawk**

Small speculation by Harry over at Warseer:

I can't remember exactly what I said but I don't think I ever knew when they were being released. I only knew for sure when they were started. (Which was soon after Grey Knights).
Given that I was expecting them any time now ... but then I didn't think too much about it ... maybe they were always planned as a longer project. (They are, after all, an army with no plastic kits).

What I know for sure is that both Codex and plastic kits have been worked on for a good while now.

I can only think of two reasons SOB are not being released ... and both of them are good news for SOB fans.

Either they were always a longer project because they are working on more plastic kits.
(So a bigger release than Grey Knights or both projects would have been a similar length)

OR

They were always part of a longer project ... like the 6th Edition release.

So in much the same way I heard and wrote in the Watchman rumours articles about the Skaven Clan rats and Storm vermin being done but they didn't appear for a couple more years as they were part of the Fantasy starter set ... when you know a plastic sisters kit exists but is not released experience would suggest this has to be a possibility worth considering.

So if they have not appeared yet either because they have a much wider range of plastics being done as OR because they will be included in the next starter set for a great kick start to a new army ... either way it is worth waiting a bit longer.

I wonder if it would kill GW to just tell us...

LOL
Apparently ... it would.

**TBD**

OR maybe the kits simply weren't finished and GW isn't confident in their selling potential.

**SagesStone**

Then they would simply hold them until the codex would be released to make more money that way. Rather than waste the new kits on a WD codex.

**TBD**

n0t_u wrote:Then they would simply hold them until the codex would be released to make more money that way. Rather than waste the new kits on a WD codex.

Who says there will be new kits with this WD codex?

**SagesStone**

No one clearly.

**TBD**

So what exactly did you intend to say?

**streamdragon**

Final piece of the "codex" comes out this Saturday. I expect we'll see scans/translations sometime this week before that. At least we'll be able to see exactly how bad the damage is finally.

**Melissia**

Five internets says we'll not find as much improvement as people want in this, either.

**Pouncey**

Melissia wrote:Five internets says we'll not find as much improvement as people want in this, either.

Yeah, you're probably right. But it may be best to let people like me cling to the hope that it won't be too bad, and let GW crush our dreams for us.

Oh, and I already don't have enough Sisters with bolters for my all-infantry 1,500 points list. I'm hoping points costs don't get lowered too badly for the bulk of the Sisters - though I wouldn't mind if Repentia points costs were lowered - cause I'm already plotting to start a Daemons army, and I don't need to have to go out and get more Battle Sisters, or use even MORE proxies.

**Kaime**

I hope they drop the costs alot, I have 200 sisters models lying around that dont fit in my current force

**Marthike**

200? Why?

What made you buy them? They look all the same anyway so why waste your army to buy that many if it's for hard boys then ok but for fun?

I don't see why it's fun to buy expensive single pose models.

Unless you want to have a huge sister force because you think it looks amazing.

**Kaime**

Hehe I dont play hard boys (im not american), and I ended up buying a bunch second hand on a whim. Its the same reason you buy a titan or something isnt it?

I do want to field them all one day in apocalypse

**Pouncey**

Kaime wrote:I hope they drop the costs alot, I have 200 sisters models lying around that dont fit in my current force

Mmm, can you imagine having more Sisters on the table than your horde opponent has Orks? :: drools :: So many boobs...

**Alkasyn**

Dr Mathias wrote:I honestly think that the bulk of Cruddace's army is quite old, and that he made few changes to it at all for the new WD codex- except the Command Squad which is unpainted. Even looking at that doesn't really give a lot of specifics.

Well I think the specific piece of info we get is that they were too lazy to even paint a SHOWCASE army for their official website.

Imo, it desn't bode well for the Sisters.

**Kroothawk**

Let me rephrase what Harry said:
1.) He knows of several plastic kits made for Sororitas.
2.) They are not released for the WD Codex
3.) They will come with the real Codex later.
4.) Reasons for the delay can be the amount of new plastic kits or them being included in the next starter box.

I am not interested in the WD Codex but wait for the real release.