Rumors for Chaos Space Marines - Upd 8/12/2012 in OP

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**SlaveToDorkness**

CthuluIsSpy wrote:
sennacherib wrote:CHAOS.
i look forward to jump pack equipped terminator if that is indeed what the new raptors are like. What would such a thing be called. Hmmm.

Also really cant wait to see if defilers get a 5+ invulnerable as i have heard suggested. Not sure if this would make them worthwhile when facing troops in melee since hitting dreads on a 3+ in melee with grenades seems like it was a HUGE nerf to their effectiveness ( well not that huge as a 10 man tactical squad only gets 1 glance on average, but with a 5+ invuln. that would make em a lot more survivable in the current glance to death meta).

I'm pretty sure you still use the dread's WS as normal. It shouldn't be an instant 3+

Yeah, having to use special characters would be stupid. I hope they aren't insane enough to try that.

Defilers are WS 3 so they get hit by marines on a 3+. That's what he meant.

i doubt it will be named characters only unlocking cult troops, just marked characters in general. Like the 3.5 Dex.

Hell, Loyalists get Bikes as Troops for having a Bike Captain. Surely, after this much time in mediocrity, the new Chaos book will be better.

**Brometheus**

This "Logan" guy:

"Well hello all. I had my conference earlier today. Nothing really new except that the codex after csm will not hit till 2013. Right now GW is VERY upset at the failure of 6ed distribution. So they will try to get THAT sorted out then chaos them terraim and flyers. There was also NO mention of a fantasy book this year. Take it how it is but thats what I have. Any more details I can gather will be here."

Also from Natfka in the comments:

"Hold on guys. I have something very juicy coming....... by morning you will forget everything you have heard, and anything about gw managers will seem like last years faded memories.

This source has been been very accurate and has sent in good information in the past that has turned out correct. Otherwise it would not have made a post.

I know GW managers are not supposed to know anything, however I have it on good authority that some are in the current loop on the next couple releases through Oct. I am sorry that I can't go into more detail than that.

Just check into the site in the morning as I have an exclusive bombshell to drop. Ive had to clear my post schedule tomorrow for i"

The last part isn't really a rumor yet, but I will definitely be checking the site in the morning.

**H.B.M.C.**

"Right now GW is VERY upset at the failure of 6ed distribution."

Someone want to elaborate on this?

**Brometheus**

Also, my car seems to be working fine. I am VERY upset about its failure.

**drbored**

H.B.M.C. wrote:"Right now GW is VERY upset at the failure of 6ed distribution."

Someone want to elaborate on this?

I'm totally lost. Unless there's some country that didn't get their 6th ed books at the same time as everyone else, I'd say this has been a best-seller for GW. The Gamers and Collectors editions sold like hotcakes and the actual book has been flying off the shelves. My FLGS managed to get 6 Collectors, 15 Gamers, and another 15 regular.. all of them have sold. That's success, and that's not even a GW store.

If there was some mistake or lack of enthusiasm or result, we'd have heard about it. This is the Internet after all.

**adamsouza**

H.B.M.C. wrote:"Right now GW is VERY upset at the failure of 6ed distribution."

Someone want to elaborate on this?

I'm with you on that .

The books are out, so maybe this is pertaining to a delay in the distribution of the new Starter Set ?

**SlaveToDorkness**

Probably the distribution of the limited edition stuff.

**drbored**

Y'know what? I got it. This is planned by GW. Some of these leaks are coming through to throw us all off the scent. GW wants us to hype up Chaos so that people will buy the old kits excited to start a new army, then they'll drop a bomb when we least expect it and get us to spend money again on all the new kits. Then they won't replace some of the older kits until wave 2.

All this shenanigans about October and September and anger about 6th ed distribution is just to throw us off the trail!

**Noisy_Marine**

Meh.

So grenades hit walkers on 3+ now? That sucks for walkers.

**kenshin620**

Hmm so Chaos will become "optimized" for 6th, and no one else for quite a few months. No Fantasy either? Geez that is a lot of dead months. I hope that rumor isnt true

**adamsouza**

Aren't the White Dwarfs printed up months in advance ? I can't see something that would be advertised in the next month or so for a September/October relase being pushed back till next year if the product is made and the advertisements are printed and bound to hit the shevles next month

**Starfarer**

H.B.M.C. wrote:"Right now GW is VERY upset at the failure of 6ed distribution."

Someone want to elaborate on this?

I've seen scattered posts around the blogosphere of people still not having received their pre-order copies of 6th. Apparently they were told there would be a bit of a wait to ship out the orders as they had run out of stock. Only one post I saw reported GW customer service citing a stock issue for their shipping delay. I feel like if this was a widespread issue, we'd have heard more about it. Additionally, I find it incredibly hard to believe they are out of stock of books unless there was a delay directly from the manufacturer. Even then the books should have been printed long ago and been properly stocked in GW shipping centers, and you don't simply sell more units than you have without technical issues allowing items to oversell, so I find the stock issues hard to believe. I work in distribution and even if there was massive fulfillment failures with 6th, you don't shut down your business of selling new product because of it. Everything about this sounds bogus.

**ZebioLizard2**

Noisy_Marine wrote:Meh.

So grenades hit walkers on 3+ now? That sucks for walkers.

Grenades hit walkers on WS.

Vehicles use WS0 for not moving, WS1 for moving!

**themonk**

Cadaver wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:"Right now GW is VERY upset at the failure of 6ed distribution."

Someone want to elaborate on this?

I've seen scattered posts around the blogosphere of people still not having received their pre-order copies of 6th. Apparently they were told there would be a bit of a wait to ship out the orders as they had run out of stock. Only one post I saw reported GW customer service citing a stock issue for their shipping delay. I feel like if this was a widespread issue, we'd have heard more about it. Additionally, I find it incredibly hard to believe they are out of stock of books unless there was a delay directly from the manufacturer. Even then the books should have been printed long ago and been properly stocked in GW shipping centers, and you don't simply sell more units than you have without technical issues allowing items to oversell, so I find the stock issues hard to believe. I work in distribution and even if there was massive fulfillment failures with 6th, you don't shut down your business of selling new product because of it. Everything about this sounds bogus.

It seems quite a few folks actually received a double shipment of the ultimate edition (two collector's edition books and two regular edition books) for the price of one while others, as Cadaver pointed out, have yet to receive their orders at all.

**lord_blackfang**

SlaveToDorkness wrote:
CthuluIsSpy wrote:
sennacherib wrote:Also really cant wait to see if defilers get a 5+ invulnerable as i have heard suggested. Not sure if this would make them worthwhile when facing troops in melee since hitting dreads on a 3+ in melee with grenades seems like it was a HUGE nerf to their effectiveness

I'm pretty sure you still use the dread's WS as normal. It shouldn't be an instant 3+

Defilers are WS 3 so they get hit by marines on a 3+. That's what he meant.

Noisy_Marine wrote:Meh.

So grenades hit walkers on 3+ now? That sucks for walkers.

See, this is what happens when you post off-handed rules comments without considering how people with poor reading comprehension will take it. You've probably ruined walkers for an entire gaming group. Let this be a lesson to you.

**Compel**

There's also been all those problems with the dice packs etc being in stock, that they have spoken in some depth about. - I notice I still can't find them on the GW site.

Maybe that's a symptom of a wider problem that the posters referring to

**Steve steveson**

Stuff up on Faeit:

"Here are some details that have been sent to me about the next several months release schedule for Warhammer 40k. From the looks of things, August is an enormously full month, and if these pan out, September and October will be just as exciting.

We were given this exclusive set of information for Faeit 212. I am hopeful that for whatever reason the White Dwarf being pushed back does not mean that the release for August is going to be changing. With Chaos Marines just around the corner and Dark Angels on the very near horizon, this is the kind of schedule we dream about for our hobby. "

http://natfka.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/40k-release-schedule-revealed-chaos.html#more

I'm not posting all of it, go and see for yourself.

**DarkStarSabre**

Steve steveson wrote:
http://natfka.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/40k-release-schedule-revealed-chaos.html#more

I'm not posting all of it, go and see for yourself.

Work-blocked. And seriously?

At least summarise for those of us who don't want to go to blogspot related sites in what for all we could know could be a grab for site views.

**htj**

Faeit 212 wrote:
A lot of stuff has been circulating recently and I really don't know where they're getting it from. I just wanted to sort of set some of it straight.

The next 4 major launches are 3 new flyers, Chaos Space Marines, the 6th edition starter set and Dark Angels.

The new flyers (1 of which being chaos) and the Chaos Space Marine book and initial waves are both done and in some cases even distributed to warehouses.

The current itinerary for release is New Flyers plus the Chaos book and half the models for August.

Then it's the other half of chaos plus the starter for September

Then it's Dark Angels and their ENTIRE new range in October.

It's a whole lot coming really fast and there's a little bit of resistance (from certain people) on the release of the flyers and chaos all at once.

That said, August's white dwarf has been pushed back for reasons I do not know. In the past, however, the only reason for White Dwarfs to be pushed back, however, have been last minute removal of content and articles, never additions.

This month had so much content potential that about 80% of it ended up on the editing room floor, so it wouldn't be difficult for them to fill a magazine back up if they were cutting chunks out of it.

As of Thursday morning though, August white dwarf hasn't been sent to the printers. The drop date on that is Friday.

**Steve steveson**

DarkStarSabre wrote:

Work-blocked. And seriously?

At least summarise for those of us who don't want to go to blogspot related sites in what for all we could know could be a grab for site views.

Hay, the guy got some infomation and Natfkas a good guy, he deserves the extra hits. I also posted the full transcript elseware as it is not just about chaos.

**unmercifulconker**

htj wrote:
Faeit 212 wrote:
A lot of stuff has been circulating recently and I really don't know where they're getting it from. I just wanted to sort of set some of it straight.

The next 4 major launches are 3 new flyers, Chaos Space Marines, the 6th edition starter set and Dark Angels.

The new flyers (1 of which being chaos) and the Chaos Space Marine book and initial waves are both done and in some cases even distributed to warehouses.

The current itinerary for release is New Flyers plus the Chaos book and half the models for August.

Then it's the other half of chaos plus the starter for September

Then it's Dark Angels and their ENTIRE new range in October.

It's a whole lot coming really fast and there's a little bit of resistance (from certain people) on the release of the flyers and chaos all at once.

That said, August's white dwarf has been pushed back for reasons I do not know. In the past, however, the only reason for White Dwarfs to be pushed back, however, have been last minute removal of content and articles, never additions.

This month had so much content potential that about 80% of it ended up on the editing room floor, so it wouldn't be difficult for them to fill a magazine back up if they were cutting chunks out of it.

As of Thursday morning though, August white dwarf hasn't been sent to the printers. The drop date on that is Friday.

If this is true, my wallet is going to have a good workout

Edit: And I eagerly await Friday, or Saturday

**lord_blackfang**

Sounds too good to be true! Well, my wallet is ready.

**Praxiss**

if the Starter kit is out in September (i think) and contains Cultists for the chaos faction (whcih apparently it will, according to rumours) - it woudl make sense to have RUES for the cultists availabel atthe same time or before hand.

Therefore - it stands to reason that if Cultists are out in September - the Chaos codex shoudl be out aroud the same time.

right?

**lord_blackfang**

I think we will all rue the cultists soon enough!

**sennacherib**

Yup.
Thank god Petre has the rumor accuracy tracking thread. so many have said so much with so little proof. I am sticking with Kroot on this one. Next month, chaos. Possibly lame dragon flyer. Possibly really cool cultists. Fingers crossed.

**Ledabot**

Hmmm, despite wanting to see the new flyers, I think its for the better if we get the chaos dex out of the way first. Then again, it probably saves them pain if they release the chaos flyer with the book, so they wont reveal anything early.

Am I correct in thinking that the other two flyers were a dark elder one and a tau one? I hear things about the harpy and a deamon flyer (how that works I have no idea)

**Praxiss**

Damn you GW!!

i am just gettign to grips with NewCrons (and gettign the models i want)...and you go out and release the 'dex for my only other army!!

Loks like i will ahve to buy the 'dex and hodl off on the models for a while. Hopefully my existign army is big and diverse enough to not need too much re-working.

**Ledabot**

Wait, Do i hear complaining about a codex release?

And people complain that dex don't come out fast enough

**Praxiss**

not complaining about the release schedule. In fact it looks like they are trying to push the schedule up a notch to get the older armies updated (althogh still no work on Eldar or Tau).
My point was that you wait ages for a new 'dex, then both your armies get fully updated at once.

Doh!

**Ledabot**

Well its my opinion that the oldest dex should always be the next to update, but yea. Nobody really cares what I think, least of all GW.