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**Howard A Treesong**

I think Ashley Maddison inflate their membership by quite a bit and they might be embarrassed by quite how much. One employee made a complaint for repetitive strain injury caused by constant working on fake profiles.

**-Loki-**

Howard A Treesong wrote:
I think Ashley Maddison inflate their membership by quite a bit and they might be embarrassed by quite how much. One employee made a complaint for repetitive strain injury caused by constant working on fake profiles.

IIRC there was a court case against them that showed 95% of their membership are fake profiles.

**Howard A Treesong**

That's pretty much a scam then.

**Ensis Ferrae**

Howard A Treesong wrote:
That's pretty much a scam then.

That was kind of the point of the lawsuit, IIRC (unless I'm thinking of a different one, lol)

**Psienesis**

Apparently, Josh Duggar was a client:

http://gawker.com/family-values-activist-josh-duggar-had-a-paid-ashley-ma-1725132091

**Dreadclaw69**

whembly wrote:
UN and US government accounts were used.

I wonder what the policy is on using your work email for this sort of thing

**Alpharius**

Dreadclaw69 wrote:
whembly wrote:
UN and US government accounts were used.

I wonder what the policy is on using your work email for this sort of thing

You're not actually wondering that, are you?

**Dreadclaw69**

Alpharius wrote:
Dreadclaw69 wrote:
whembly wrote:
UN and US government accounts were used.

I wonder what the policy is on using your work email for this sort of thing

You're not actually wondering that, are you?

Why wouldn't I? I haven't worked for a government agency here and don't know their rules. I assume there is a difference depending on security clearance.
Is the policy very strict that specifies that your account cannot be used for these activities? Does it have a "do not bring the organization into disrepute" clause? If no sexually explicit messages or images were exchanged by the user will that save their job? etc.

**Ouze**

Presumably you could lose your job; certainly you could lose your security clearance which will then lose you your job.

Additionally, if you're in the military, you could be charged with adultery.

**Grey Templar**

Howard A Treesong wrote:
cincydooley wrote:
Dreadwinter wrote:
I have seen a couple of things hinting that high level officials have been using the site. (Who is shocked there?)

Tony Blair was brought up once or twice.

Why does it matter?

If it doesn't impact their ability to perform their job function, who cares who they're sleeping with. It's none of our business.

It's an issue if it exposes them to blackmail compromising security for criminal acts and espionage. But that's an issue for the state and their employer. It's an issue if cheating it exposes hypocrisy in a politician. If they win votes on the basis of being a married family man supporting moral values, but are hiring rent boys on the side, the public have a right to know.

To be fair, with all this being public its not really valid blackmail material anymore. So the fact they were using this site can't make them a security threat anymore. You can't threaten to expose what's already public knowledge.

**Ouze**

Psienesis wrote:
Apparently, Josh Duggar was a client:

http://gawker.com/family-values-activist-josh-duggar-had-a-paid-ashley-ma-1725132091

This is my surprised face.

At least this time it wasn't an underaged child, or someone related to him, or both, so... progress, I guess.

**Dreadclaw69**

Ouze wrote:
Additionally, if you're in the military, you could be charged with adultery.

Really? I didn't know that the military could discipline members for adultery.

**Ouze**

Dreadclaw69 wrote:
Ouze wrote:
Additionally, if you're in the military, you could be charged with adultery.

Really? I didn't know that the military could discipline members for adultery.

Yeah, it's totally a thing. I can't speak to how often it happens though, I have no idea. I think it's uncommon, but with something so public as this, which clearly brings the service into disrepute... I dunno.

**reds8n**

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/aug/20/radio-hosts-tell-woman-live-on-air-her-husband-had-ashley-madison-account

Radio listeners have responded with anger after a Sydney woman was told live on air that her husband was registered with the Ashley Madison website for casual affairs.

Breakfast radio hosts Fitzy and Wippa put a call out on Thursday morning for any female listeners who suspected their partner might be cheating.

The Nova FM hosts offered to find out if the suspected person was registered with Ashley Madison by checking their email address against the data released by hackers this week.

Jo* from Blacktown phoned in because of her “snippy” husband.

“When that little thing came on the news about the Ashley Madison hack, he sort of went a bit funny,” Jo said. “I asked him straight out. He said, ‘Don’t be stupid. We’re married, we’ve got two kids.’”

She said his work hours had changed, he now kept his phone close by him and he could not account for some money. Jo gave her husband’s details to the radio program.

“We’re putting him into this website right now and his details have revealed that he’s actually on the website, Jo,” said radio host Fitzy.

“Are you serious?” Jo asked. “Are you freaking kidding me?”

“Yeah, no ...” stammered Fitzy.

“These websites are disgusting,” Jo said before hanging up.

Listeners took to Twitter to voice their outrage at the stunt.

“I, for one, do not want to listen to you two destroy someone’s life on air. It’s not funny. It’s horrible,” tweeted The Sydney Rant.

Alexander Rose-Innes tweeted: “You guys are a shameless disgrace @fitzyandwippa ...” Ian Jankelowitz said: “Things not to do for ratings ... reveal to a woman live on air her husband has an @ashleymadison acct #fail @fitzyandwippa @novafm.”

After Jo hung up live on air, Wippa said: “Oh I don’t know if we should have done that. That hasn’t left me with a good feeling. I’m sorry that that happened, Jo. I feel a bit bad.”

Comment is being sought from Nova FM.

*Name has been changed

Good grief.

**Ouze**

What an awful thing to do.

**Ensis Ferrae**

Ouze wrote:
Dreadclaw69 wrote:
Ouze wrote:
Additionally, if you're in the military, you could be charged with adultery.

Really? I didn't know that the military could discipline members for adultery.

Yeah, it's totally a thing. I can't speak to how often it happens though, I have no idea. I think it's uncommon, but with something so public as this, which clearly brings the service into disrepute... I dunno.

I dont know how factual it is, but according to a number of the Company Commanders I had in my time, just about the only way to get an adultery charge to stick was to catch them in the act. Apparently talking about it wasn't enough, or, Im guessing signing up for a website isn't enough.

**welshhoppo**

Wow, what is it with Austrailan radio stations doing very stupid things.

Even though her husband was a cheater, that's not the way you go about dealing with it.

**Howard A Treesong**

Maybe she shouldn't have asked on air? Seems a bit like a publicity stunt to me, either that or it proves some people will risk anything to get on TV or radio.

**thenoobbomb**

Howard A Treesong wrote:
Maybe she shouldn't have asked on air? Seems a bit like a publicity stunt to me, either that or it proves some people will risk anything to get on TV or radio.

^ this

They didn't do anything she couldn't have done, and she clearly wanted to know.

**timetowaste85**

She called in and asked. She made it public business. Not them. People getting up in arms about it need to read better. They may have made the offer, but unless they're reading the full list of information out, the people who call in and ask on air are the ones making it public via their requests.

**kronk**

What I learned today.

Don't pull it out unless you want to pay for it later.

Don't ask if your husband pulled it out on the air if you can't handle the truth.

Don't loan money to hookers.

**Ouze**

I'll confess, I didn't catch the part where she called into the show which does shift the onus of responsibility a bit. Nonetheless, pretty crappy "entertainment".

**kronk**

Ouze wrote:
I'll confess, I didn't catch the part where she called into the show which does shift the onus of responsibility a bit. Nonetheless, pretty crappy "entertainment".

A radio show in Houston did "War of the Roses" every Wednesday morning. The maintenance guys would listen during their morning break.

Basically, if you suspected a spouse, boyfriend, whatever of cheating on you, you could call in. They would pretend to be a local florist and call the person saying they are starting a new floral business, that they had their name from previous floral arrangements they did, and wanted to offer a free dozen roses with no cost in order to get their name out there.

After some convincing that no credit card information or money was needed, they'd ask the person for a name to go on the card, and perhaps a little message.

Invariably, the poor shmuck would make it out to the person they were cheating with and include a line like "I can't wait for our next rendezvous". Meanwhile, the person that suspected them is listening the whole time and then the fight starts.

It's usually a Jerry Springer moment...

They (the maintenance guys) loved that gak, even though a few bragged about having 2-3 girlfriends in addition to their wives...

**whembly**

Guys... next time you're about to get in trouble with your SO... just say "hey, at least my name isn't on Ashley Madison's site!".

**DarkTraveler777**

kronk wrote:
Ouze wrote:
I'll confess, I didn't catch the part where she called into the show which does shift the onus of responsibility a bit. Nonetheless, pretty crappy "entertainment".

A radio show in Houston did "War of the Roses" every Wednesday morning. The maintenance guys would listen during their morning break.

Basically, if you suspected a spouse, boyfriend, whatever of cheating on you, you could call in. They would pretend to be a local florist and call the person saying they are starting a new floral business, that they had their name from previous floral arrangements they did, and wanted to offer a free dozen roses with no cost in order to get their name out there.

After some convincing that no credit card information or money was needed, they'd ask the person for a name to go on the card, and perhaps a little message.

Invariably, the poor shmuck would make it out to the person they were cheating with and include a line like "I can't wait for our next rendezvous". Meanwhile, the person that suspected them is listening the whole time and then the fight starts.

It's usually a Jerry Springer moment...

They (the maintenance guys) loved that gak, even though a few bragged about having 2-3 girlfriends in addition to their wives...

Ugh, this is going on in my area too. There is a new weekly segment on a local show I listen to called Put Your Man Where Your Mouth Is, that uses a honeypot trap with a former Playboy Playmate. Basically a wife or girlfriend can call the show, give the show their significant other's contact information, and the Playmate will "happen upon" the unsuspecting guy to see if he accepts her phone number and calls her to set up a rendezvous. If the guy calls the Playmate's number it takes him to a voicemail that is recording for the show's benefit. Then when the segment airs, they live call the wife/gf and play the voicemail for her to see if her guy has been loyal.

I find the whole bit disgusting, and after hearing last week's call (guy wasn't loyal, guy started screaming at his wife that he wants a divorce) I am not going to listen during that segment any longer. I just don't find the humor in seeing people's lives unravel.

But I have no sympathy for the women who call up and willingly subject themselves and their SO to that kind of exploitation.

**Frazzled**

I wish my wife made me face this challenge!

**VorpalBunny74**

Frazzled wrote:
I wish my wife made me face this challenge!

Me too - free flowers!

**Swastakowey**

I am fairly sure these radio pranks are fake guys.

1: you need persons permission to air it, if it was real most people on the butt end would not allow the prank to be aired.

2: they are pre recorded so they can edit out swear words and shorten it etc to the best effect. AKA edit.

3: If it is on TV or Radio as entertainment it is likely scripted etc.

I am unsure of the specifics but I know here in NZ you can't just go up to someone, ask them questions then put it on the radio. They have to be informed that it will be on the radio first and so on.

**DarkTraveler777**

Swastakowey wrote:
I am fairly sure these radio pranks are fake guys.

1: you need persons permission to air it, if it was real most people on the butt end would not allow the prank to be aired.

2: they are pre recorded so they can edit out swear words and shorten it etc to the best effect. AKA edit.

3: If it is on TV or Radio as entertainment it is likely scripted etc.

I am unsure of the specifics but I know here in NZ you can't just go up to someone, ask them questions then put it on the radio. They have to be informed that it will be on the radio first and so on.

I doubt the show I referenced was staged.

In the US a radio host has to identify that a caller is on the air. That was done both for the wife who called in, and when the honeypotted husband got on the line. I would imagine too, that the wife signed or gave verbal consent before handing over the contact info of her husband to the radio station, who in turned set up the meeting between him and the Playboy Playmate.

Live radio shows here are on a delay which allows the station to "dump" or delete offensive material before it reaches the live listeners. I believe the delay time can range from 30 seconds to a minute or two. However most radio programs are very much live affairs. It is usually the overnight or weekend shows that are taped, especially those Top 20 weekly countdowns.

Regarding scripts, I think that depends on the radio program. Bits and live reads are certainly scripted, but many shows offer a lot of improvisational comedy via the hosts interacting with callers and guests.

So, I dunno. I think I heard a real marriage break up on my drive in to work last week and I didn't like it.

**Swastakowey**

I was talking about the prank calls. The ones that trick the person into releasing information etc. They are fake. They tend to be recorded earlier in the day then released at the time needed (how else do you guarantee the person is available at the time of calling etc, not that it matters since the prank set up is fake).

The Ashley Maddison situation earlier may very well be real, but I was talking about the pranks mentioned above like the "war of the roses" etc. We have one in NZ called "Wind up your Wife Wednesday" and it's pretty much the same prank set up, however it is likely fake. I don't see how you can trick someone into the prank legally, then air it after they just admitted they slept with their husbands brother with their permission is just far fetched to have it done on a weekly basis and always be interesting.