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2015/08/20 23:41:09
Subject: Online cheating site Ashley Madison Hacked
Howard A Treesong wrote: Maybe she shouldn't have asked on air? Seems a bit like a publicity stunt to me, either that or it proves some people will risk anything to get on TV or radio.
Yup. Don't ask questions that you don't want answers to.
**edit**
Looks like we have the data on which States spent the most on the site
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2015/08/21 03:21:06
Subject: Re:Online cheating site Ashley Madison Hacked
1: you need persons permission to air it, if it was real most people on the butt end would not allow the prank to be aired.
2: they are pre recorded so they can edit out swear words and shorten it etc to the best effect. AKA edit.
3: If it is on TV or Radio as entertainment it is likely scripted etc.
I am unsure of the specifics but I know here in NZ you can't just go up to someone, ask them questions then put it on the radio. They have to be informed that it will be on the radio first and so on.
The prank call an Australian station made to the nurse at the Duchess of Cambridge's maternity hospital was not faked, staged or used by permission. It resulted in the nurse committing suicide when she found out what had happened.
1: you need persons permission to air it, if it was real most people on the butt end would not allow the prank to be aired.
2: they are pre recorded so they can edit out swear words and shorten it etc to the best effect. AKA edit.
3: If it is on TV or Radio as entertainment it is likely scripted etc.
I am unsure of the specifics but I know here in NZ you can't just go up to someone, ask them questions then put it on the radio. They have to be informed that it will be on the radio first and so on.
The prank call an Australian station made to the nurse at the Duchess of Cambridge's maternity hospital was not faked, staged or used by permission. It resulted in the nurse committing suicide when she found out what had happened.
Yes but because that was not fake I am fairly sure there was legal action taken yes?
So my point still stands... That in order to avoid the situation above by in large most of these pranks are likely fake.
2015/08/21 21:20:37
Subject: Online cheating site Ashley Madison Hacked
namiel wrote: The offenders are not the cheaters the offenders are people who seem to think they have the right to police peoples morality. They are no better then governments trying to dictate society morality through social policy.
Interesting. I feel that defending "cheating", meaning the deceptive act of not telling your partner that you are having sex with other people, is messed up. It shows a fundamental lack of understanding regarding what it means to honor an oath. In my view being promiscuous isn't the issue, doing it via lying and deception is the issue. I guess some people are concerned about the "privacy" aspect? I have no problem at all with cheaters being outed. Glad to see it happening.
EXCLUSIVE: Father who 'surprised' his wife with news she was pregnant then announced she had suffered a miscarriage 'was a paying user of Ashley Madison'
A user who appears to be Sam Rader, of Christian vlogging couple Sam and Nia, is listed as a paying user of Ashley Madison in the hacked files
Sam, 29, and Nia, 26, became internet sensations filming their family life
This month they shared news of their pregnancy and alleged miscarriage
A user who appears to be Sam Rader allegedly made two $189 payments
The database shared online by hackers lists the name, home address, IP address, credit card details, and email address of each paying user
Rader's manager declined to comment to Daily Mail Online when asked about the data. Direct emails and calls to Rader have gone unanswered
First they go viral with a cheesy possibly staged video in which the father secretly uses a pregnancy test on his wife and then tells her shes pregnant.
Then she suffers a "miscarriage".
And now he's accused of being an Ashely Madison user.
2015/08/22 06:07:12
Subject: Online cheating site Ashley Madison Hacked
One of the UK paper's said that gay people who have been outed are now at risk of criminal prosecution in a number of countries where it is illegal to be gay.
namiel wrote: The offenders are not the cheaters the offenders are people who seem to think they have the right to police peoples morality. They are no better then governments trying to dictate society morality through social policy.
Interesting. I feel that defending "cheating", meaning the deceptive act of not telling your partner that you are having sex with other people, is messed up. It shows a fundamental lack of understanding regarding what it means to honor an oath. In my view being promiscuous isn't the issue, doing it via lying and deception is the issue. I guess some people are concerned about the "privacy" aspect? I have no problem at all with cheaters being outed. Glad to see it happening.
Yay for mob justice! I'll go get my pitchfork!
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2015/08/22 16:32:57
Subject: Online cheating site Ashley Madison Hacked
What's sad about all these pseudo-celebrities getting "outed" due to membership of AM, is that in absolutely NO cases do they mention how recent their activity was...
It could very well be that many of these people were paying 3-4 years ago, before they entered their current relationship, but quit paying once they entered that relationship. But all these journalists don't give a feth about facts and all that... there's no potential outrage in all that, they just need to smear the paint as much as they can on these people.
2015/08/22 17:39:24
Subject: Online cheating site Ashley Madison Hacked
Ensis Ferrae wrote: What's sad about all these pseudo-celebrities getting "outed" due to membership of AM, is that in absolutely NO cases do they mention how recent their activity was...
It could very well be that many of these people were paying 3-4 years ago, before they entered their current relationship, but quit paying once they entered that relationship. But all these journalists don't give a feth about facts and all that... there's no potential outrage in all that, they just need to smear the paint as much as they can on these people.
The dates that these people were using AM are very well documented in articles, and some were more recent than others.
The annoying "Viral Miscarriage Husband" was married in 2007 and used AM from 2013 to 2014.
Josh Duggar used AM from 2013 until 2015. He was married in 2008.
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2015/08/23 02:21:55
Subject: Re:Online cheating site Ashley Madison Hacked
Hmm, D.C. Is number three on that chart? I'm shocked, shocked to hear our nation's capitol is full of cheaters.
What's also funny is that I read that there is at least one business doing well off of this: private investigators.
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2015/08/24 19:14:44
Subject: Online cheating site Ashley Madison Hacked
Apparently Avid Life Media (owners of AM) are offering a bounty to find the hackers
Spoiler:
Ashley Madison owners promise $379,000 bounty for information about hackers
Avid Life Media is offering a CA$500,000 (around US$379,000) bounty for information on the hackers behind its massive security breach, which Toronto police now say could have resulted in two suicides. As reported by the BBC and Reuters, police acting staff superintendent Bryce Evans announced the bounty at a press conference this morning. Evans also said that the police had two unconfirmed reports of suicides tied to the leak of customers' account data, without giving more details.
"Today I can confirm that Avid Life Media is offering a $500,000 reward to anyone providing information that leads to the identification, arrest, and prosecution of the person or persons responsible for the leak of the Ashley Madison database," said Evans, according to the BBC. He called the hack "one of the largest data breaches in the world" and "very unique on its own," due to its scope and the personal nature of the data. Avid Life Media did not immediately return a request for comment on the bounty.
POLICE SAY THEY HAVE UNCONFIRMED REPORTS OF TWO SUICIDES AFTER USER DATA LEAKED
Evans didn't elaborate on the reports of suicide. One potentially Ashley Madison-related death was reported late last week in San Antonio, Texas, where three city employees' email addresses were found in the list of accounts. It's unclear, however, whether the employee's death was connected to the leaked information. Since many of Ashley Madison's email addresses weren't validated, it's also not clear whether the accounts actually belonged to the employees in question.
Canada-based Avid Life Media has already asked potential informants to come forward, albeit without mention of a reward. "While we are confident that the authorities will identify and prosecute each of [the hackers] to the fullest extent of the law, we also know there are individuals out there who can help to make this happen faster," wrote social media director Anthony Macri on August 18th, asking "anyone with information that can lead to the identification, arrest and conviction of these criminals" to email the company.
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This is gonna end badly for alot of people that are suspected of hacking, or have a grudge against AM
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2015/08/24 20:42:48
Subject: Online cheating site Ashley Madison Hacked
I have no desire to look up people or whatever. While cheaters are as worthless as cat lovers, this is just blackmail released.
Your notation of "bounty" made Frazzled first like happy then like sad because "twice that if dead" wasn't in the sentence.
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2015/08/24 21:41:48
Subject: Online cheating site Ashley Madison Hacked
Ashley Madison owners promise $379,000 bounty for information about hackers
Avid Life Media is offering a CA$500,000 (around US$379,000) bounty for information on the hackers behind its massive security breach, which Toronto police now say could have resulted in two suicides. As reported by the BBC and Reuters, police acting staff superintendent Bryce Evans announced the bounty at a press conference this morning. Evans also said that the police had two unconfirmed reports of suicides tied to the leak of customers' account data, without giving more details.
"Today I can confirm that Avid Life Media is offering a $500,000 reward to anyone providing information that leads to the identification, arrest, and prosecution of the person or persons responsible for the leak of the Ashley Madison database," said Evans, according to the BBC. He called the hack "one of the largest data breaches in the world" and "very unique on its own," due to its scope and the personal nature of the data. Avid Life Media did not immediately return a request for comment on the bounty.
POLICE SAY THEY HAVE UNCONFIRMED REPORTS OF TWO SUICIDES AFTER USER DATA LEAKED
Evans didn't elaborate on the reports of suicide. One potentially Ashley Madison-related death was reported late last week in San Antonio, Texas, where three city employees' email addresses were found in the list of accounts. It's unclear, however, whether the employee's death was connected to the leaked information. Since many of Ashley Madison's email addresses weren't validated, it's also not clear whether the accounts actually belonged to the employees in question.
Canada-based Avid Life Media has already asked potential informants to come forward, albeit without mention of a reward. "While we are confident that the authorities will identify and prosecute each of [the hackers] to the fullest extent of the law, we also know there are individuals out there who can help to make this happen faster," wrote social media director Anthony Macri on August 18th, asking "anyone with information that can lead to the identification, arrest and conviction of these criminals" to email the company.
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This is gonna end badly for alot of people that are suspected of hacking, or have a grudge against AM
Bounty hunters, you say?
I also don't really except Avid Life Media to pay out that much money (or anything close to that much money).
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2015/08/24 22:50:11
Subject: Online cheating site Ashley Madison Hacked
feeder wrote: Frazz's mind is like a wiener dog in a rabbit warren. Dark, twisting tunnels, and full of the certainty that just around the next bend will be the quarry he seeks.
2015/08/24 23:02:24
Subject: Re:Online cheating site Ashley Madison Hacked
Either way, we’re left with data that suggests Ashley Madison is a site where tens of millions of men write mail, chat, and spend money for women who aren’t there.
the article estimates that there could have been as few as only a few thousand active female uses, against 20-30 million men.
2015/08/27 00:29:13
Subject: Online cheating site Ashley Madison Hacked
Those are even worse odds than showing up as a single guy at a swingers club. Sounds like most of these guys are not even cheaters, but attempted cheaters. Pathetic.
Seems the founder has stepped down for the 'good of the company'. While they continue to whine about taking legal action against the theft and helping the police, I think legal action should be turning against them for misleading customers by grossly inflating numbers of female members to get paying customers in. It's just a scam. Not that I have any sympathy for anyone involved, it seems like everyone involved in this business seems to be lying and cheating someone. It's just those running it are actually doing something likely illegal.
2015/08/28 17:33:21
Subject: Online cheating site Ashley Madison Hacked
BobtheInquisitor wrote: Those are even worse odds than showing up as a single guy at a swingers club. Sounds like most of these guys are not even cheaters, but attempted cheaters. Pathetic.