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 Gunzhard wrote:

 jreilly89 wrote:

 Korinov wrote:
The "remain positive" rule has the same vibe as the requests from some users that have asked mods to "control" the negativity in this very forum: the desire of leaving any kind of public criticism out, and turn social media into a resonating eco chamber of clapping yes-men.

Which we know is how GW has worked internally for a long time.

Okay, try this. Go on literally any other products Facebook and scream obsenities or hurl insults at them. Tell me when you get blocked. Most negatives, when written in a polite and constructive way, still get a response from GW's design team. They do not, and should not, have to respond to comments saying "OMG YOU'RE PRICING IS TOO HIGH" or "GW SUCKS!!!"

Yeah this -- they receive plenty of reasonable criticism, but also so so much insane and unreasonable nerd-rage... at the end of the day we're talking about toys, and the level of emotion and grudge-holding about these toys would probably be considered markers for mental illness in other walks of life.

Go to ANY business's facebook page and post the kind of vitriol you generally see from GW-haters and watch how fast it goes away.

They could have said "remain civil" or "remain polite". They went with "remain positive" instead. At this stage, we all know what GW and their apologists understand by "positive": stfu and forge the narrative harder!

 Korinov wrote:

They could have said "remain civil" or "remain polite". They went with "remain positive" instead. At this stage, we all know what GW and their apologists understand by "positive": stfu and forge the narrative harder!

Yeah how awful of them. You act like this constant negativity just arrived and is a fresh idea... this whine has been going on for DECADES - it's just so so tired. The original GW forums from around 20 years ago were shut down for the same reasons. It's seriously crazy... I wonder what sort of sickness (is it Nurgles Rot?) that makes someone hold onto a hateful grudge so long over --> toys.

 Gunzhard wrote:

 Korinov wrote:

They could have said "remain civil" or "remain polite". They went with "remain positive" instead. At this stage, we all know what GW and their apologists understand by "positive": stfu and forge the narrative harder!

Yeah how awful of them. You act like this constant negativity just arrived and is a fresh idea... this whine has been going on for DECADES - it's just so so tired. The original GW forums from around 20 years ago were shut down for the same reasons. It's seriously crazy... I wonder what sort of sickness (is it Nurgles Rot?) that makes someone hold onto a hateful grudge so long over --> toys.

Nah, my theory is its Tzeench's manipulation turning a large portion of the fanbase into complaining children so that GW will cease production thus chaos destroys the universe. We can only expect this sort of meta narrative from Tzeench... although the presence of GUOs in the fanbase does support your theory

Why do the people who lament threads like these always participate in them? How many threads never see 10 pages with almost 10K views that are more worthwhile? Honestly, love GW or hate GW, but why piss and moan and bump a thread that you don't see any worth in?

For the same reason people pop into pro - or positive GW threads to tell people how much they hate the game, the company, the models, and how they're never playing 40k again.

 the_Armyman wrote:
Why do the people who lament threads like these always participate in them? How many threads never see 10 pages with almost 10K views that are more worthwhile? Honestly, love GW or hate GW, but why piss and moan and bump a thread that you don't see any worth in?

We don't lament, most are apathetic, and for some people from that apathy sometimes breeds contempt, but for others revel in the malcontent felt by people miffed by GW, which I find really interesting as its something almost wholly unique to the internet. But in any case, to summize "we bump for da lulz"

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 MarsNZ wrote:

It doesn't matter what GW does for people like you, you'll always find something to bash on them about.

This is such a silly argument, I mean really, do you actually believe that?

GW doing positive things that people don't actually care about obviously isn't going to make those people happy.

I couldn't give a flying feth about GW's social media interaction if it doesn't lead to rules that aren't such a hideous mess.

GW have so many core problems that make people unhappy that doing a few positive periphery things are obviously going to be met with "well that's nice but I don't give a gak".

Actually I do, do you not?

Couple of posters under yours is serial complainer Martel. 14k posts about how BA is awful and he's still here complaining.

Also you're speaking for all gamers as if you're some kind of authority. You aren't. Personally a little communication from GW makes me moderately happy. Your argument boils down to "I don't give a feth" and yet my argument is the silly one... lol?

 Cruentus wrote:
For the same reason people pop into pro - or positive GW threads to tell people how much they hate the game, the company, the models, and how they're never playing 40k again.

It's effectively the nerd version of 'I vape/I'm vegan."

 Cruentus wrote:
For the same reason people pop into pro - or positive GW threads to tell people how much they hate the game, the company, the models, and how they're never playing 40k again.

Actually, I find it much more logical that someone who likes a product spend their time defending or promoting it, than someone who doesn't like a product spend their time attacking or complaining about it. Mostly, this is because I'm a guy who likes spending time on things I like, rather than protesting things I don't like, but I guess that's just me.

Among other things, no matter how much some people groan and moan, GW isn't going out of business any time soon, nor will their company likely change in a seismic way; so someone unhappy with GW can piss their life away screaming about how awful it is to little avail... or spend the same time nurturing their chosen pastime and enjoy themselves. I understand folks who are fed up and post their displeasure, but the folks who are fed up that seem to post hundreds or thousands of posts to that effect just amazes me.




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 MarsNZ wrote:
Couple of posters under yours is serial complainer Martel. 14k posts about how BA is awful and he's still here complaining.

To his credit though, Martel knows what he's talking about and he's stuck with BA despite all their shortcomings

Seems like we're done here.