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 Argive wrote:
FYI You can get new banshees for £26 (20% off) for anyone who is interested. Its better than £32.50....

https://lvlupgaming.co.uk/collections/craftworlds/products/craftworlds-eldar-howling-banshees-pre-order

Apparently the despatch date for this is 03/07/2020 I assume that's the 7th of march and not the third of July lol...

Not sure if this will last long term as a discount but worth considering if anyone wanted to get these ladies so thought I'd share to save you some £££ .

Having been badly let down by Lvlupgaming I would strongly advise anybody against shopping with them, epecially when there are many excellent alternatives in the online discount world: Darksphere and Element Games to name but two.

Element Games - Firestorm Games - Wayland Games

All three I've ordered from and continue to order from without any problems.

 Overread wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:


Everyone is different regarding their situation, but I do wonder how many of us in the tabletop community actually buys directly from GW, without discount.

I'd wager as this is an internet forum, that most of us are buying at discount from legitimate stores where possible, with many also buying secondhand.
I'd say many aren't buying direct from GW unless that's the only place a product is sold. Simply put why get it from the GW store if you know other legitimate stores which offer discount for the same product.


That said more might buy direct from GW if they are gaming/hobbying at a local GW store to them. IT might be all their buying, or only some of it, but in general wargamers are fairly good at understanding the concept of supporting the income of their local stores when that store also provides for a hub for community and club and gaming activities.

Every independent store I've ever lived near, in several countries, has always simply charged full RRP. Discounts aren't a given everywhere.
(Which makes the standard GW prices especially problematic, if you do in fact want to support your local hobby store.)

 Nevelon wrote:


Little plastic ladies won out in the end though. So when the next box of aspects comes out, you can thank me for telling GW we wanted them and they were worth producing. And then curse me as you break out your wallet.

Er...no. GW can sit and wonder why their stock is still sitting on their shelves six months later and why I’m not buying their overpriced follow-ups. Even a 20% discount only puts them at the price they “should” have been BEFORE discounts.

Though calling it now - better pucker up, Primaris prices will be rising soon. Can’t have those filthy Xenos be the most expensive models on the block, people might think they must somehow be better!

 Overread wrote:
Element Games - Firestorm Games - Wayland Games

All three I've ordered from and continue to order from without any problems.

Yeah... Until december 31st, that is. Then we might be SOL.

 Albertorius wrote:

 Overread wrote:
Element Games - Firestorm Games - Wayland Games

All three I've ordered from and continue to order from without any problems.

Yeah... Until december 31st, that is. Then we might be SOL.

What happen's then?

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:

 Argive wrote:
FYI You can get new banshees for £26 (20% off) for anyone who is interested. Its better than £32.50....

https://lvlupgaming.co.uk/collections/craftworlds/products/craftworlds-eldar-howling-banshees-pre-order

Apparently the despatch date for this is 03/07/2020 I assume that's the 7th of march and not the third of July lol...

Not sure if this will last long term as a discount but worth considering if anyone wanted to get these ladies so thought I'd share to save you some £££ .

Having been badly let down by Lvlupgaming I would strongly advise anybody against shopping with them, epecially when there are many excellent alternatives in the online discount world: Darksphere and Element Games to name but two.

Ohh really ? How so.

What happen's then?

A certain country leaves a certain trade area. In theory anyone from Europe will no longer be charged UK tax(20%) but you will be taxed by your countries tax percentage.

But no one truly knows what will happen next year.

 Overread wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:

 Overread wrote:
Element Games - Firestorm Games - Wayland Games

All three I've ordered from and continue to order from without any problems.

Yeah... Until december 31st, that is. Then we might be SOL.

What happen's then?

Brexit- so are EU friends might have some difficulties as we might with imports to the uk.

I always buy from Darksphere - they have been excellent. I never buy from GW unless its new paints [handy to see the colours in the flesh], online discount makes the hobby just about affordable.

I'll never understand the excuse of "But you can buy it at a 20%-30% discount". So what? Everyone can get that discount if you look... which means it is basically the "normal" price.

That still means a price increase is the exact same since you were PRESUMABLY getting the discount on the lower price as well. Any way you shake it, 55$ for 5 plastic banshees with virtually 0 options is absurd. Who cares if they're elites? They're 12 points per model.

 Argive wrote:

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:

 Argive wrote:
FYI You can get new banshees for £26 (20% off) for anyone who is interested. Its better than £32.50....

https://lvlupgaming.co.uk/collections/craftworlds/products/craftworlds-eldar-howling-banshees-pre-order

Apparently the despatch date for this is 03/07/2020 I assume that's the 7th of march and not the third of July lol...

Not sure if this will last long term as a discount but worth considering if anyone wanted to get these ladies so thought I'd share to save you some £££ .

Having been badly let down by Lvlupgaming I would strongly advise anybody against shopping with them, epecially when there are many excellent alternatives in the online discount world: Darksphere and Element Games to name but two.

Ohh really ? How so.

Ordered two items from their eBay store. 11 days after payment they cancelled my order as they didn’t actually have the stock. During this time I could have ordered the items from other online stores, but everywhere had sold out in the meantime. The message that they sent me seemed inappropriate to me (something about pesky gretchin hiding my items ). They then had the audacity to cancel my order using the “customer wants to cancel the order” option on eBay, presumably to avoid the associated eBay fees.

They just come across as an amateurish group who don’t hold much stock at any one time. As has already been mentioned, there are plenty of reliable options when choosing your online discount retailer of choice.

I know that in the past some game stores have been messed around by the GW pre-ordering stock system (or by distributors etc...). When some limited stock items have sold out at record speed sometimes some 3rd parties and even physical GW stores don't get their full allocation.

Other times GW doesn't limit their initial allocation and then when orders vastly exceed demand the store "doesn't get them all" because GW had to impose limits and didn't have enough to give everyone what they wanted etc...

 Kirasu wrote:
I'll never understand the excuse of "But you can buy it at a 20%-30% discount". So what? Everyone can get that discount if you look... which means it is basically the "normal" price.

That still means a price increase is the exact same since you were PRESUMABLY getting the discount on the lower price as well. Any way you shake it, 55$ for 5 plastic banshees with virtually 0 options is absurd. Who cares if they're elites? They're 12 points per model.

Nah you cant get a 20% off on everything GW... A lot of thing but not everything and it seems very arbitrary on what GW decides with its distributors.

 Overread wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:

 Overread wrote:
Element Games - Firestorm Games - Wayland Games

All three I've ordered from and continue to order from without any problems.

Yeah... Until december 31st, that is. Then we might be SOL.

What happen's then?

Brexit, apparently for reals this time. So we'll have kind of a bit of a harder time buying from the UK, what with GW wanting us to pay inflated euro prices instead of pound prices.

By way of example, I just bought the new AT box from Wayland last week. Even with a 20%, I'd have paid 96 euros over here (and the highest discounts usually go here is 15% off). At Wayland, paying in pounds, I paid 83 euros.

With Brexit, there is a big chance that we are not able to buy GW products from the UK at all but must buy from an EU source and GW can change the Euro price to their liking.

 Albertorius wrote:

 Overread wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:

 Overread wrote:
Element Games - Firestorm Games - Wayland Games

All three I've ordered from and continue to order from without any problems.

Yeah... Until december 31st, that is. Then we might be SOL.

What happen's then?

Brexit, apparently for reals this time. So we'll have kind of a bit of a harder time buying from the UK, what with GW wanting us to pay inflated euro prices instead of pound prices.

By way of example, I just bought the new AT box from Wayland last week. Even with a 20%, I'd have paid 96 euros over here (and the highest discounts usually go here is 15% off). At Wayland, paying in pounds, I paid 83 euros.

It's not so much GW wanting to charge more as GW being forced to charge more because your particular country taxes the feth out of UK product.

Not that it excuses the prices, the UK Banshee prices are obscene.

If you find UK prices obscene, try swiss prices or aussies.

Not Online!!! wrote:
If you find UK prices obscene, try swiss prices or aussies.

No thanks. But as I said literally in the post before yours - you understand this is because your own government is taxing products made in the UK, right?

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:

 Overread wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:

 Overread wrote:
Element Games - Firestorm Games - Wayland Games

All three I've ordered from and continue to order from without any problems.

Yeah... Until december 31st, that is. Then we might be SOL.

What happen's then?

Brexit, apparently for reals this time. So we'll have kind of a bit of a harder time buying from the UK, what with GW wanting us to pay inflated euro prices instead of pound prices.

By way of example, I just bought the new AT box from Wayland last week. Even with a 20%, I'd have paid 96 euros over here (and the highest discounts usually go here is 15% off). At Wayland, paying in pounds, I paid 83 euros.

It's not so much GW wanting to charge more as GW being forced to charge more because your particular country taxes the feth out of UK product.

Not that it excuses the prices, the UK Banshee prices are obscene.

Taxes have nothing at all to do with GW cloud-cuckoo exchange rates. We're talking pound prices with taxes versus euro prices with taxes. Which currently are the same, as VAT is an EU tax.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:
If you find UK prices obscene, try swiss prices or aussies.

No thanks. But as I said literally in the post before yours - you understand this is because your own government is taxing products made in the UK, right?

And your knowledge about free trade associations is lackluster switzerland is not only basically in the EU aswell as in the efta, there is nigh 0 tax difference on imports.
The main issue is gw can't exchange at an decent or actual rate and decides to screw over non pound places.

further on that note, if 20% off is commonplace in the UK and even then the price is questionable at best i wonder what the future holds.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:
If you find UK prices obscene, try swiss prices or aussies.

No thanks. But as I said literally in the post before yours - you understand this is because your own government is taxing products made in the UK, right?

And you do undestand that, right now, the exact same taxes apply, right? I mean, currently there are no special "UK-made product" taxes whatsoever inside the EU.

It probably won't be the case come december, 31st, but you're a bit early.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:
If you find UK prices obscene, try swiss prices or aussies.

No thanks. But as I said literally in the post before yours - you understand this is because your own government is taxing products made in the UK, right?

No, this has nothing to do with taxes
GW makes up a price for the product Independent on taxes or conversion rate, based on popularity of their games

it is just that they cannot prevent us from buying from anywhere within the EU, making the specific prices for each country only a thing for Mail Order only products (and there they just add ridiculous shipping prices to make orders from a GW shop from another country pointless)

Not Online!!! wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:
If you find UK prices obscene, try swiss prices or aussies.

No thanks. But as I said literally in the post before yours - you understand this is because your own government is taxing products made in the UK, right?

And your knowledge about free trade associations is lackluster switzerland is not only basically in the EU aswell as in the efta, there is nigh 0 tax difference on imports.
The main issue is gw can't exchange at an decent or actual rate and decides to screw over non pound places.

further on that note, if 20% off is commonplace in the UK and even then the price is questionable at best i wonder what the future holds.

Unless I'm mistaken Switzerland isn't an EU country? Nor is Australia? So import taxes do apply.

Brexit has seen a devaluing of the pound for some time, it makes sense GW would protect against a severe drop in the exchange rate.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:
If you find UK prices obscene, try swiss prices or aussies.

No thanks. But as I said literally in the post before yours - you understand this is because your own government is taxing products made in the UK, right?

And your knowledge about free trade associations is lackluster switzerland is not only basically in the EU aswell as in the efta, there is nigh 0 tax difference on imports.
The main issue is gw can't exchange at an decent or actual rate and decides to screw over non pound places.

further on that note, if 20% off is commonplace in the UK and even then the price is questionable at best i wonder what the future holds.

Unless I'm mistaken Switzerland isn't an EU country? Nor is Australia? So import taxes do apply.

Brexit has seen a devaluing of the pound for some time, it makes sense GW would protect against a severe drop in the exchange rate.

Not beeing in the EU =/= not beeing in the free market. Further 7.7 % on 32£ does not make 53 CHF.
https://www.kmu.admin.ch/kmu/de/home/praktisches-wissen/import-export/import-fuer-kmu/einfuhrsteuern-und-abgaben/einfuhrsteuer.html

As for the exchange rates. GW does not have exchange rates, they just nickle and dime some countries with made up multipliers.

Infact, the correct price price would be 42.20 CHF with taxes included and even if say the store needs a cut and personal is more expensive so they stack another 5CHF on top that would be 47.20 or 48 CHF which still is 5 chf less then the price demanded

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:
If you find UK prices obscene, try swiss prices or aussies.

No thanks. But as I said literally in the post before yours - you understand this is because your own government is taxing products made in the UK, right?

And your knowledge about free trade associations is lackluster switzerland is not only basically in the EU aswell as in the efta, there is nigh 0 tax difference on imports.
The main issue is gw can't exchange at an decent or actual rate and decides to screw over non pound places.

further on that note, if 20% off is commonplace in the UK and even then the price is questionable at best i wonder what the future holds.

Unless I'm mistaken Switzerland isn't an EU country? Nor is Australia? So import taxes do apply.

Brexit has seen a devaluing of the pound for some time, it makes sense GW would protect against a severe drop in the exchange rate.

So, what you're saying here is that GW sees the future, right? Because they've been doing this for at the very least a decade, and certainly during times where the pound was the bigger fish in the pond.

Hopefully GW will see the light and move production somewhere, but until then, it's time for 15th pre-brexit price rise.

Fixed regional pricing to hedge against currency fluctuations is not seeing the future. It's just common sense.

Vorian wrote:
Fixed regional pricing to hedge against currency fluctuations is not seeing the future. It's just common sense.

Just as much common sense as saying "feth no" to it. Partucilarly when the change rate is less "hedging against currency fluctuations" and more "let's see exactly how much we can get away with". Take a look at our antipodan friends, for example.

Tell you what, coming the actual Brexit, let's see wether GW takes the EU taxes out of their prices or not.

GW is not the only product that is steeply more expensive in Australia. In fact from what I gather its quite the norm for a lot of imported products in many markets to be considerably more expensive in that region of the world. It's a problem that GW is not alone in and I suspect that there are more complicating matters than most people are aware of which might well go beyond the standard simple gut reaction of price gouging.

Vorian wrote:
Fixed regional pricing to hedge against currency fluctuations is not seeing the future. It's just common sense.

So that's why Oz prices are based upon currency conversion rates that make zero sense! How could I miss that.