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No change for the Lord of Change? Surely you jest, sir!

Also, the Nurgle thingy isn't as good as some other Nurgle thingies, but it is certainly Nurgle!

The Chaos Knight is OK. Not thrilled with it, but HURRAY! for those that wanted a Chaos Knight! Now put your money where you're bitching was and buy 1 or 5!

How exciting.

Soul blaze really needs to be something like a LD test of get fethed. or hands out ld penalties.

I wonder if we'll ever see Veletaris with power axes.

 Melcavuk wrote:
I assumed no, because you count as "Daemon aligned with Nurgle" not a Daemon of Nurgle. Basically you gain some benefit from the warpstorm table in regards to the go you're aligned with but never says you're a Daemon of (Insert God)

This is correct. There are several daemon engines that work this way. I personally emailed them WRT the Decimator, and was told the above, and I know I'm not the only one to ask and be given the same response.

What's weird is that they've obviously been asked to clarify this on several occasions (including myself and I've encountered two other posters who have done so on Dakka) yet haven't changed the wording at all.

 BrookM wrote:
I wonder if we'll ever see Veletaris with power axes.

Who is Veletaris?

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
I wonder if we'll ever see Veletaris with power axes.

Who is Veletaris?

These guys:



I'd love to field a House Guard squad of these guys with power axes.

 Sinful Hero wrote:

 Harriticus wrote:
$2,000 single model.

I have no idea who can actually justify buying this.

People with plenty of disposable income, or those who saved specifically for it.

to each his own I spose

Come to think, when are we getting a FAQ on the fifth Horus Heresy book? The Militia army list is a bit of a mess, especially with the Rogue Psyker entry not having a point cost listed.

 BrookM wrote:
Come to think, when are we getting a FAQ on the fifth Horus Heresy book? The Militia army list is a bit of a mess, especially with the Rogue Psyker entry not having a point cost listed.

Maybe that unit is the first 30/40k warscroll

jakejackjake wrote:

 Sinful Hero wrote:

 Harriticus wrote:
$2,000 single model.

I have no idea who can actually justify buying this.

People with plenty of disposable income, or those who saved specifically for it.

to each his own I spose

Not sure what your point is? If someone wants a very nice display piece for their army, a Warlord fills that niche perfectly. Some people have a well-paying job that can afford to drop a couple grand on their hobby, and others save over time for the model.

The war lord is more of a modleing/display project then something you buy for gameing. People who use to play epic bassicly gushing over building/painting such a large scale modle of a unit from that game.

It totally makes sence why some people would want it so bad. Personally I don't feel a need or want to tackle something like that just for it to become a glorified dust collector. But to each their own.

As a side note, there's now a painted version of Cor'bax up on FW.

Its Chet from Weird Science!

http://www.lifeandstylemag.com/posts/that-time-robert-downey-jr-s-weird-science-co-star-revealed-his-poo-ful-story-plus-see-the-rest-of-the-cast-today-44615/photos/weird-science-chet-donnelly-as-gak-60781

 -Shrike- wrote:
As a side note, there's now a painted version of Cor'bax up on FW.

 angelofvengeance wrote:
Yeah I think he is, but that's because he gets Ferrus Manus' Forgebreaker as a gift from Horus later on, so it seems right that they should model him with it.

He got the hammer from Fulgrim after he won the duel with Ferrus Manus, the forger of the hammer, Ferrus made Fulgrims sword.

Just noticed that the full print of the cover for the new HH novel has Skitarii, one of which is armed with an arc maul, being the combatants facing the loyalist Marines. They look identical to their 40k counterparts. Personally, although BL covers are not the best source of fluff, I think this bodes well for the inclusion of Skitarii plastics into the HH ruleset.

I recall someone emailed forge world asking if the dune crawler and some other ad mec gear was around during the heresy and if we will be seeing rules for them.

He got back a kinda vague email saying yes they were and sujested to use the current 40k rules for now if you wish to make a home brew list to represent them.


The ad mec red book might have something when it comes out?

 Lockark wrote:

The ad mec red book might have something when it comes out?

No Skitarii in Mechanicum Red Book, the only completely new additions to that from what people saw at the open day were the Ordinatus & new Mechanicum LR entry. I think we'll wait until Mars to see Skitarii get full coverage

So what is the distinction between skitarii and tech-thralls?

Wasn't sure about it at the start, but seeing that Great Unclean One with paint on, I like it.

MacMuckles wrote:So what is the distinction between skitarii and tech-thralls?

Skitarri are a more elite soldier the template of which originates from mars and were adopted by other Forgeworld. Tech-thralls are a less advance soldier and closer to servitors in terms of their construction.
Skitarri are to Tech-thralls what Storm Troopers are to Imperial Guard... In both cases you have a more advance elite troop that are utilized by an overarching authority as opposed to a more mundane form of disposable troop.

Marshal Loss wrote:

 Lockark wrote:

The ad mec red book might have something when it comes out?

No Skitarii in Mechanicum Red Book, the only completely new additions to that from what people saw at the open day were the Ordinatus & new Mechanicum LR entry. I think we'll wait until Mars to see Skitarii get full coverage

What sort of changes have been made to the Mechanicum's LR entry?

 sonofruss wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:
Yeah I think he is, but that's because he gets Ferrus Manus' Forgebreaker as a gift from Horus later on, so it seems right that they should model him with it.

He got the hammer from Fulgrim after he won the duel with Ferrus Manus, the forger of the hammer, Ferrus made Fulgrims sword.

No, Fulgrim gave it to Horus when he gave him Ferrus' head, and Horus then gave it to Perturabo.

New pre-orders for ZARDU LAYAK & ANAKATIS KUL BLADE-SLAVES






and ULTRAMARINES INVICTARUS SUZERAIN SQUAD



good stuff!!!

And Word Bearers etched brass: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/WORD_BEARERS_BRASS_ETCH.html

Just saw the UM come for 60 pounds ... jesus

I want everything, but £60 is ridiculously expensive for 5 marines.

 BrookM wrote:
And Word Bearers etched brass: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/WORD_BEARERS_BRASS_ETCH.html

That brass is fantastic. I love the border script, too, you know people will be using that as well.

So £19 for each model in Zardu Layak's box set and £12 for each model in the Suzerain set... ouch.

 ImAGeek wrote:
I want everything, but £60 is ridiculously expensive for 5 marines.

They seem to have been priced proporationally more than normal FW marines with the full upgrade kit of heads, torsos, pauldrons and weapons as they work out at about £90 for 10. At least they come with nearly all the options, except the hardest one to buy seperately, the banner that is needed if you take them as Honor Guard. Not happy that they have fixed torsos, but I've still gone in for two sets as I want that Honor Guard for Gulliman. I'm hoping we see the UM Terminators soon, I want to get my company finished.

 Haighus wrote:
Just noticed that the full print of the cover for the new HH novel has Skitarii, one of which is armed with an arc maul, being the combatants facing the loyalist Marines. They look identical to their 40k counterparts. Personally, although BL covers are not the best source of fluff, I think this bodes well for the inclusion of Skitarii plastics into the HH ruleset.

Which is a real shame, frankly, as FW previously mentioned that 30K Skitarii would come with the Mars book and would be "nothing like" 40K Skitarii - I was very much hoping we'd get models of the more elite "cyber-barbarian" style of Skitarii from the 30K range. People could already use the models as Adsecularis.

Hopefully the BL novel is just another example of GW-main's present obsession with only allowing art of models that actually exist(ie they're terrified of basing cover art on any FW Skitarii concepts that might exist in case a third party makes models of them first), rather than an indication the models will be shoehorned into 30K.

EDIT: Not convinced by the Ultras, the inclusion of the bolter on the back of the shield makes the grip look extremely silly; there's a reason shields were secured around the forearm. These guys look as if they'd get their wrists shattered if an enemy hit the shield on the edge where the bolter muzzle sits.

The Word Bearers though....woah. Not sure what's going on with the character's left arm, but hot-damn those minis make me wish FW had decided to go truescale with the whole HH range.