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Hey I'm in the Kamloops area, more specifically I attend Thompson Rivers University.

I am looking for fellow gamers, being unable to find any - I was thinking of recruiting. My bf suggested this awhile ago and I think it's an awesome idea, but I was wondering how I'd go about approaching people to get them interested, it's not about embarrasment or anything just tips on opening a conversation or how to sell the idea without overwhelming people with rules or turning them off.

Any help guys? And any stories on what got you started?

EDIT: I seem to have ALOT of views and no comments. Please feel free - if I didn't want answers I wouldn't have asked.

Well, 40k players also tend to gravitate towards other geeky hobbies such as roleplaying games, comics, sci-fi/fantasy novels, video games, etc. I would recommend trying to find a gaming/sci-fi/comics club at your school and shop the idea around there (go with your boyfriend though, no joking a loose female can intimidate some of those types. Being off the market should hopefully obviate some of their akwardness.) I don't know if Kamloops has a FLGS, but the GW website has a locator for places that sell their products. The nearest one should in theory have existing 40k players as well as likely others who have looked and are interested in engaging but have not yet done so. The proprietor should be able to help (and should have a vested interest in doing so to facilitate sales.)

Another option is to check around in social websites like this and other 40k or related hobby forums like enworld. Put an advert up on meetup.com and craigslist, both are free and searched by those in the know looking for people to share their geeky hobby with.

Have your friends over to your house sometime and make sure your models are out on the table in plain view. I guarantee you'll be able to open a conversation about it!

Really, regarding games, I've found that there are 2 types of people: first, the type that like games to last between 5 and 20 minutes and then there are those who very much enjoy long and involved games. If your friends are of the former type, you might have trouble getting them interested (this game is a BIG time commitment). But if you're lucky, you will have 1 or 2 friends that might really gravitate toward this sort of game and be willing to put in the investment of time!

My friends already played RPGs, so I knew they already liked long gaming sessions. But getting them to make the move to 40K took time. I had enough models for all of us, so I divided my army up into 4 separate armies and made an army list for each. I let my friends each pick an army and we played 2 vs 2. They loved it! And after a few games like this, of course they wanted their own models - and at that point, we were off and running.

Not that your friends MUST have their own models just to try a game with you. But if they really take to it, this sort of progression happens usually on its own.

Good luck!

Thanks for the advice guys, that's alot to sift through. So...

"loose female" ? ... I just think that's the funniest thing, "Oh my gawd guys, it has boobs, what do I do?" and I'm sure there are lots of guys like that, it would be comforting to know there are some regular joes who just want to game. And yes we have a good store, but I've yet to see many gravitate towards the 40k section.

Good idea about using the interwebs.

And finally I keep all my 40k models at my boyfriends house. So I guess I could start up a conversation by saying "Hey guys, want to go hang out in a basement and play with little plastic toys?" * pause * "Muwhahahah" sinister laugh while twiddling French moustache. Because you know to most people, it sounds like you're being invited to chill with a serial killer.

But I get the drift, it's very helpful. Oh and the club idea is nice - I don't think we have an organized one on campus. I should look into starting one - once I have some sort of interest. On a side note, since I'm -trying- to join the sorority maybe get them involved... wouldn't that be something? It would certainly be a new demographic - since half the guys on this site appear to be either in highschool or ex-military.

Let them play Dawn of War and see if the universe interests them. Try playing small, simple games with them to see if they actually enjoy the gameplay, or let them sit in on a game. That's how I got some of my buddies into it.

I find that the models catch people's attention pretty well when they're left out and people pretty much always ask me about them when they see my little display setup for my painted stuff. Sometimes I leave my painting station half-setup by accident as well and my friends/people who see the work in progress models are always intrigued by the idea that I'm the one building and painting them. If you can manage something along those lines it mgiht help you at least break the ice about it and get some interested conversation.

Of course you could also just bring it up and more or less ask if anyone seems interested in it, but I always find that a little difficult to do with people that aren't into other hobbies/games that tend to draw parrellels to 40k (such as D&D, Magic, video games, etc). culler also makes a solid point related to how some among the gamer crowd may be intimidated by a girl, I see that sort of thing happen pretty frequently around the FLGS and such. It is definitely not a bad thing, but I would say do not be put off by some shy/awkward behavior among the gamer crowd if you're trying to get them into 40k.

If you get a sorority to play 40k, that would be something else! I'd also be moving to BC in the near future... hahaha

hmmmm, yea, I agree that FLGS with a warhammer crowd can be rough to find in certain areas.

One thing you can do is you can ask the store proprieter to give you a call if somebody comes in asking for a game. That "almost" worked for me in ann arbor. By the time a warhammer crowd started going on I was allready out of AA and on my way to minnesota.

another interesting bit of food for thought, is that I'm hesitant myself to introduce my friends to the hobby. It is extremely expensive, and time consumeing to get started, and you really want to be sure your friend is serious about getting into it before they buy a 90 dollar battleforce... and to get a 1500 point list which is what most people at the stores I go to play, it can cost alot more... my eldar 1500 list cost around 400 dollars.

so I've just been making a seperate group of warhammer friends. A post on craig's list or something could work, as well as a gaming club... just becareful with friends, and only suggest it to ones who you'd think would have a genuine interest.

Well, when I'm in town I'll totally play you and mettali.

I'm not good with people but I do have friend's who play maybe ill bring my pal who play's Eldar.

Assuming that you have a healthy number of friends, do what I did.

Buy them the Black Reach box as a present. It's sort of like getting someone an animal for a present. It's an evil thing to do because they *have* to deal with it, but at the end of the day, that means they have a puppy you can play with.

So.. basically just play some games and let people see if they like it or don't - seems easy. I'll let ya know how it goes, fug it it's friday and time to chill. Again lots of good advice guys

Shadowbrand wrote:Well, when I'm in town I'll totally play you and mettali.

I'm not good with people but I do have friend's who play maybe ill bring my pal who play's Eldar.

And I'll run over Marbo with my Rhino again on Death or Glory

That was seriously priceless...


Marbo: "..."

*Tank guns it's engines towards him*

Marbo "..."

*Tank is a mere 50 feet away*

Marbo: *Chucks Demo charge... It flies clear over the Rhino and lands in a crater*

*Tank is only 10 feet away*

Marbo:

-Bad End-



And yea, you could just hang around High Octane and flirt up highschool kids babe

"Hey, you wanna come back to my place... ... ...And play some Warhammer?"

Because I really want highschool boys. Lol.

And b) inviting people over really doesn't work if you say Warhammer. I get alot of what is that? and odd side ways glances.

metallifan wrote:
"Hey, you wanna come back to my place... ... ...And play some Warhammer?"

Back in my high school days I totally would have fallen for that

Anywho, talking to the owner of your FLGS is definitely a good start. He/she might let you put up some flyers or something.

So your fething awesome, just saying. A girl that plays Warhammer and is active enough to want to get people into the game AND be on an internet forum! A rare occurrence. did you get into the game because of your boyfriend? Or did you already play? If its the former, my girlfriend is moderately interested in playing, but she is very protective of her money. Is there any tips for me as a guy to get her into the game? Are you a video game type of girl? or do you just like strategy? She played one game and she said she had to play again in order to form an actual opinion, so the foot is in the door. She is trying to ebay some necrons.

I too am trying to find people to play with at college. i've encountered one that wants to play but doesn't have the money for it. I'm not too worried about him though, he lives an hour or so away from me, I think.

Now onto your question.

I've talked to a bunch of people trying to get them into the game. My core group of friends were into it, but one moved, one has little to no interest in the game and is embarrassed that he plays it, and one is a total bro that just ignores the question if I ask him to play. So I went back to square one very quickly. I've probably talked to 20 people to try to get to play this game and so far, no dice. I had one guy I knew from middle school that came to me a few weeks ago and wanted to play, but he kinda stopped talking to me, go figure. I think I laid the theoryhammer down too hard on him. He was looking for a certain army and I was trying to tell him about Pedro Kantor and all his super awesome abilities and at one point he just gave me a look and I knew he was tired of me talking.

For the rational people that want to know how it is going to cost them I came up with this army list. I made for my friends girlfriend, she said she could never afford to play.

So just for fun i decided to make a 1500 point Slaanesh daemon army for Jacklyn(Austin’s girlfriend)! i found an excellent list online, used various sources to make sure it was a credible list, and added up all the points for it. I counted up how much it would cost to buy all the stuff and then made a chart to show how much money out of a weekly pay check can buy the army. The fiends are incredibly expensive, i would highly suggest that if she uses this she would find an alternative route to buying the $20 models. But regardless this is a week by week chart showing that a Warhammer army is affordable if one is willing to wait. Better deals can come along on sites like Ebay or Amazon though, so a frugal gamer will use those to their advantage.

6 boxes of Daemonettes=
$22 x 6= $141.24= 840 points

2 Keepers of Secrets=
$50 x 2= $107= 220 points

15 Fiends of Slaanesh=
$20 x 15= $321= 450 points

TOTAL: $569.24 = 1500 points

$5 per week= 113 weeks
$10 per week= 56 weeks
$15 per week= 37 weeks
$20 per week= 28 weeks
$25 per week= 22 weeks
$30 per week= 18 weeks

Using www.thewarstore.com offers 20% off
which brings the total down to = $454.39

$5 per week= 90 weeks
$10 per week= 45 weeks
$15 per week= 30 weeks
$20 per week= 22 weeks
$25 per week= 18 weeks
$30 per week= 15 weeks

Hopefully this will offer some sort of insight to what a warhammer army costs, and that it is practical if one is willing to put forth the effort.

from: http://fuckyeahwarhammer.tumblr.com/page/2 (my tumblr page that i copied it from)

Like I said in the post, the Fiends can be converted fairly easily in order to cut costs. I think aside from that a warhammer is fairly affordable if someone is willing to save the cash. I think if this is something really effective for you to do for a person that wants to start playing with the army that they like. Not exactly obviously, because the person may change their mind on what they want. let them know their are alternative to paying full price for things.

Something that has worked for me has been telling the person if they torrent, to torrent the rule book and army that they have an interest in. Have them read the rulebook up until the day that you play with them so they have some understanding of the rules and that way it saves some time.

In terms of introducing the game, I have just been playing combat patrols, its fun to think of something they can relate to. Like the dude I mentioned earlier that just kinda stopped talking to me is really into Starcraft, so it was easy to make a connection between the Zerg and Tyranids fighting space marines. Tyranids I think off a very intimidating opponent, while still being easy to beat somewhat in smaller points due to lack of Carnifex or other such creatures.

I am thinking about starting a gaming club at my college, i would probably start off slow and play Settlers of Catan or Risk and then offer to anyone if they want to try warhammer a few weeks later. That sounds like a really good way to get something started.

I suppose I danced around your question, but hopefully some of that helps.

Stop your girlfriend before she actually buys said Necrons, gets steamrolled, and then hates the game.

Necrons are one of the worst armies to be playing right now. Invest in something she might be able to win with, so that she finds the game fun.



As to how I got binky started, she was always into anime and stuff. Basically she was over on her first visit, asked what all the buildings and plastic soldiers were for, so my buddy and I decided to show her by demoing a game. She flipped through the rulebook and assorted codi at my place, and then next time she was over, decided to try her first game. After that, she picked an army... Well... Two armies (CSM /w Daemon allies), and that's pretty much where she's at.

I guess she could've told you too, but I got here first!

Summary: If they've got a nerdy vice already, and you know other people that can help demo the game to her, as well as any local FLGS you can game at, then getting your lady started shouldn't be too hard.

Hell, all I had to do was tell binky that Slaanesh and Tzeench both like pink and she was all over the Daemons. Her Marines look like evil cotton candy too

I have gaming friends and non-gaming friends.

There is no way in hell that I would try to casually introduce my 'dark secret' to my mates who play volleyball and surf. As far as I know, most surfies don't take after tabletop gaming.

However, if I had an artsy friend, or knew someone who liked to paint and/or model, I might talk to them about that aspect of 40k and maybe show them a few models. (Then utilise thier painting skills, enslave them and have them paint my whole army! Muwahahahahahaaaa!)

...Geez. That was a bit of a 'Morgrim Moment'.

I have a friend that is artsy(like me I suppose) but she doesn't have the attention span to play...

Unfortunately my girlfriend and I looked through all the armies and she thought most of them looked boring. She was trying to decide between Eldar and Necron. I have seen people do very well with necrons, but I know they are very tough to play as right now.

Well, playing is only one part of the hobby aspect. She may enjoy painting and putting together the models. Who knows? Maybe she could make a killing out of it? And maybe those models may yet see the light of the tabletop.

Eldar is the worst starting army to choose. They are very difficult to play properly when starting out even if you know the rules.

The way I got into 40k was a guy had 2 armys and let me control one side the other guy controlling the other. That was back when Eldar weren't so difficult to run.

Eldar aren't that bad.

Dark reapers quickly level the playing field against most MEQ players.

And Fire Dragons are pretty nifty against those nasty mechs.

Emperors Faithful wrote:I have gaming friends and non-gaming friends.

There is no way in hell that I would try to casually introduce my 'dark secret' to my mates who play volleyball and surf. As far as I know, most surfies don't take after tabletop gaming.

However, if I had an artsy friend, or knew someone who liked to paint and/or model, I might talk to them about that aspect of 40k and maybe show them a few models. (Then utilise thier painting skills, enslave them and have them paint my whole army! Muwahahahahahaaaa!)

...Geez. That was a bit of a 'Morgrim Moment'.

I'm flattered, and so glad to see that said corruption is working... but I don't enslave people to paint and model, I have too much fun doing that myself. No, I manage to convince them to give me bits, or buy me models I've been eyeing off by telling them exactly how I'm going to use this bit in that conversion and sketching out roughly what it will look like and getting them all hyped up to play it... but I can't field it yet because I haven't been able to make it.

I also swipe their Army Builder to do lists.

My biggest suggestion is not to get hung up in the whole 'you must play 1500 point games' sort of thing. I don't think I even have 1500 points yet and I've been playing this army some 18 months. Start off with smaller, less complex games with fewer models to keep track of, and build slowly so as not to strain finances. And to actually get them into the habit of painting models as they go. If you have unpainted stuff, paint with them, it'll help you both. My friends got me into the hobby itself by swinging by the store for 15 minutes or so when we were having our weekly coffee and hanging out outings; I'd painted a bit on commission in highschool so they had me looking about curiously. Then by trying to match armies to personalities of people we knew. Both of them instantly pegged me as a dark eldar. I've chosen to take that as a compliment. I started curiously looking into their fluff, saw the lines of their vehicles with the whole swept back sleek yet spiky and utterly dangerous vibe, and I've been hooked ever since.

Morgrim wrote: I'm flattered, and so glad to see that said corruption is working... but I don't enslave people to paint and model, I have too much fun doing that myself. No, I manage to convince them to give me bits, Good God! What are you doing to these people?!? or buy me models I've been eyeing off by telling them exactly how I'm going to use this bit in that conversion and sketching out roughly what it will look like and getting them all hyped up to play it... but I can't field it yet because I haven't been able to make it.

I also swipe their Army Builder to do lists. Theif! Scoundrel!

My biggest suggestion is not to get hung up in the whole 'you must play 1500 point games' sort of thing. I don't think I even have 1500 points yet and I've been playing this army some 18 months. Start off with smaller, less complex games with fewer models to keep track of, and build slowly so as not to strain finances. And to actually get them into the habit of painting models as they go. If you have unpainted stuff, paint with them, it'll help you both. My friends got me into the hobby itself by swinging by the store for 15 minutes or so when we were having our weekly coffee and hanging out outings; I'd painted a bit on commission in highschool so they had me looking about curiously. Then by trying to match armies to personalities of people we knew. Both of them instantly pegged me as a dark eldar. I've chosen to take that as a compliment. I started curiously looking into their fluff, saw the lines of their vehicles with the whole swept back sleek yet spiky and utterly dangerous vibe, and I've been hooked ever since.

No! Lies! Go big! Go strong!

Get 1000pts in the first swoop! Do it!

Sometimes that does work for people. I had a guy that wanted a baneblade really bad. I told him he couldn't use it in a normal game and only in apocalypse. He said he wanted a huge game. We played one game and I never heard from him since.

Yes, starting small. A friend of a friend that I met quit playing Eldar because he couldn't win with them. He kept playing 2,000 point games and such. You have to play 1,000 point games until you know what your army can do. Then move up to bigger ones.

.... Or accept that winning might not be your thing and enjoy the games for the small moments.... (Like wiping out 72.5% of their force, or watching playmates get a Talos to eat Mephiston.)

...and then eventually winning. C'mon, you gotta get your shot at the gold some time once in a while.

Practice makes perfect. Gaming. Modelling. Painting. List Building. Life in general?

If she likes Necrons, buy em' for the sake of painting, but I would say hold off on them until they're closer to their update. Go with something else in the meantime. Maybe a small Tau army. Some of their units are a little over priced for their stats (I'm looking at you, Devilfish) but they aren't impossible to win with. Plus, at least their Codex is relevant

Well I wouldn't say Tau are any easier to use. Tau are a close second to eldar in terms of skill. Necrons at least have the +3 save and WWB. The monolith doesn't hurt things either ;D They are out of date, yes. But she isn't going to be playing in any tournaments anytime soon. I'll ask her about it but if she says that she doesn't care then I can't stop her.

If the Necrons are so out of date, why is it that I keep getting PUMMELED by them?

Oh, well then I think in the right hands necrons can be very powerful.