How would you introduce your buddies to 40k?

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**binky**

the_ferrett wrote:Let them win? I'd be a triffle offended if someone introduced me to a game, sat me down, explained the rules and then 'let me win'. Where does my skill/luck come into it then? Were they cheating when I rolled that beautiful slaying move? No, don't bring an WAAC list, but don't 'let them win'.

I completly agree! Lots of people say let the noob win, but it doesn't feel good if you know that you didn't win fairly, bruises the ego abit. Also it can make the person wonder why they lose the next fifty or so games

Just cause they're new doesn't mean they're dumb, just don't mercilessly annihilate every model off the board - that helps.

**Eilif**

As to your OP, check Meetup.com, as there may already be a group meeting nearby. On my most recent return to 40k last month, I found a gaming group and got in a few games that way.

I would also second those who suggested putting a note up at a comic store and having more than one army on hand to demo with. Lastly, don't talk their head off about it. Answer questions as sucinctly as possible and don't try to verbally wow them with the hobby.

As to the newbie... Don't just let them win, but it might be a good chance to bring a really fluffy or weak list and challenge yourself to do well with less.

**BOSS_PIMPALOTZ**

Heh having a Girlfriend into the hobby is good......but once a break up looms the models get split like kids in a divorce court....

I no longer have access to my Beserker army :( not even supervised.....

**binky**

Eilif - thanks, that's helpful

Pimpalotz - I dunno what to say. that sucks.
But what does that have to do with the OP?

**Emperors Faithful**

Only introduce your GF to the game if you're ready to go to court?

**binky**

Guess so, damn women - they're so expensive

**Solly**

To answer the thread question:

Invite them around for a game on a scenery riddled table, give them a couple of squads of various armies and then play a game based on the most basic of rules:
move, shoot, assault, saves (no invulnerable saves, master crafted weapons etc)

Tis how I got my friends into it back in the day..
Now most of them still collect the minis but are hard pressed for time to play, same as meself really.

**binky**

I think thats the biggest affliction to all of us really - having the time to play.

**metallifan**

binky wrote:I think thats the biggest affliction to all of us really - having the time to play.

You have lots of time to paint/play. You just never actually do it.

**binky**

Hey not fair. I only get a weekend to paint/hang out with my other friends. And I do want to play but you let me win

or your buddies

me. There is no good word to describe gaming against them. Hence the looking for other gamers

But a big part of it is laziness

**Nivoglibina**

I'm a life long gamer, and my friends played 40K for more than 10 years before I got started. I just was not interested in the models/fluff at all. I had seen games of 40K at gaming conventions and to me it looked boring and lacked importance of tactical decisions in my view at that time. That, and I like a classic fantasy setting more.
One of the things that convinced me to get into 40K is seeing those friends play, it was a competitive game in a very relaxed atmosphere; beers in hand and lots of laughing.

If you're going to show 40K to someone, make sure there's monster type models as well as tanks and marines. Guns and tanks didn't do it for me at all, while daemons and tyranids caught my fancy. Right now I play Eldar :-D.

**Cambak**

I told my friends that it was about power armored guys shooting the gak out of aliens, with the help of a gun line of fleshy humans. they were all for shooting the foul xenos.

**binky**

Good answer but how would you explain xenos?

**Cambak**

I basically told them that they are different alien races, Tau are young but high tech, Eldar are old, dieing out, and high tech, Necron are a species that traded their souls for immortality, Orks are fungi that decided that it wanted to be on tope of the food chain, and live for war, and Tyrnids, I'd tell them to imagine starship trooper bugs, only they eat worlds and come with out any countable number.

**binky**

Hmm that sounds better than its like a big war where shooty marines kill aliens. lol. I think I may have oversimplified it.

The way you explained it actually makes it sound interesting.

**binky**

I need a faster connection - I hate double posts.

**Cambak**

Though I tend to purposely leave out chaos, I am a loyalist after all, but I like to tell them a little fluff about each of the races to see if they like them, if they choose an alien race, then good for them.

**binky**

Out corpse worshipping scum! lols. My army is chaos, so I guess you'd want to stomp it flat.

I really don't care - I like to see people field different armies, I still consider another army an opponent at the end of the day. But I need to read more fluff, I know next to nothing about Orks, or Eldar.

**Da BLUE orks**

I had my friends watch me play a couple battles and they got straight into it... just make it sound pretty cool and youll reel them in.

**Emperors Faithful**

Cambak wrote:Though I tend to purposely leave out chaos, I am a loyalist after all,...

Good man.

**binky**

Don't encourage him EF, loyalists are not good.

**Noobtodagame**

Personally I was converted by reading the BL books. Gaunts Ghost to be precise. It might not work for everyone but it got me hooked.

I was able to bring two freinds into the game with me by letting them borrow my Dawn of War games. Later comparing them to other archtypes (sp?) they were hooked.

One of them loved the Zerg from starcraft so he was easy to send over to Tyranids (hey look zerg models you can play with)

The other's dad fought in Vietnam so it was easy to send him to Catachan IG. He basixcally tries to convert it the U.S. army there.

This was how I did it anyways. It might not work for others though.

Showing them selected pictures from the dakkdakka gallery didn't hurt either I might add.

**Ringarin**

I read through the codex Imperiallis from a few editions back. That is what really sold me on it. It covers the basic history of every race that was available at that time. Which is marines of both sides, eldar, squats, tyranids, orks. That kind of thing. Didn't have dark eldar, necrons back then. But it gives a good basic history of everything. We have a few copies at the used book store here. Not sure if they would have any there, but they might. Used book stores are great for old codexes. The fluff doesn't go out of date, they just add more stuff to it, and it's cheaper than buying the new codexes.

**metallifan**

Ringarin wrote:I read through the codex Imperiallis from a few editions back. That is what really sold me on it. It covers the basic history of every race that was available at that time. Which is marines of both sides, eldar, squats, tyranids, orks. That kind of thing. Didn't have dark eldar, necrons back then. But it gives a good basic history of everything. We have a few copies at the used book store here. Not sure if they would have any there, but they might. Used book stores are great for old codexes. The fluff doesn't go out of date, they just add more stuff to it, and it's cheaper than buying the new codexes.

A couple editions?? Try the start of 2nd

My FLGS still has a copy of Codex Imperialis that I flip through just for poops & giggles.

**Emperors Faithful**

binky wrote:Don't encourage him EF, loyalists are not good.

Quiet, you.

**nintendoeats**

You know how I got into 40K? My brother read me the Ork Codex.

If that doesn't rope them in than get better friends.

**binky**

I don't think liking Warhammer qualifies you as a better friend. I think you meant different friends. Alot of my friends and I have completely different interests and yet we still get along. Its a weird concept I know

**nintendoeats**

I was not referring to disliking warhammer, but rather to disliking the orks.

**binky**

I never really was an Ork fan...

**IvanTih**

SideEffect46 wrote:Introduce them to Dawn of War, that is how I got into it...

Good idea.Video games are good choice for that.