Tyranid Datasheets for Apocalypse, New

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**BrassScorpion**

There are two Tyranid Datasheets in this month's White Dwarf and one on the GW website as of today. Here's a link. More Apocalypse fun.

**warpcrafter**

Bah! Those are just painfully obvious ads for the new plastics.

**Grarg**

What's the other one in the White Dwarf? The gargoyles on is pretty cool, except for the fact that you need minimum of 80 gargolyes...

**The Power Cosmic**

warpcrafter wrote:Bah! Those are just painfully obvious ads for the new plastics.

As opposed to the rest of White Dwarf?

**Alex Kolodotschko**

I've not seen the new WD yet but let me guess...
'Pyrovore Pile Up' and 'Mawloc Madness'.

**GentlemanGuy**

Actually they both involve the Trygon. the first one is similar to the one in the Apocalypse book but instead of Raveners you have Lictors and Hormagaunts. the bonus with this one is you roll an extra 2d6 hormagaunts everyturn for free until you roll a double and the formation appears anywhere you want it.

the other one is an all trygon force with an alpha trygon. this force have a more powerful electric blast

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

3D6 of Hormies actually.

Plus, the initial batch (Trygon, Lictor Brood and Hormogaunt Brood of 20+) gets to do a sort of extremely accurate Deep Strike in the first turn, AND assault at the same time. Can be pretty awesome for disrupting and killing a bunch of troops. Plus your opponent than has the Hormiehole (I claim that term as my own) to worry about for the rest of the game. You can could even get cheeky and pop them up near an objective. Not exactly in the spirit of Apocalypse, but good for a laugh!

**H.B.M.C.**

Still waiting for the Iron Saint...

Oh, and this part's amusing:

The Studio aims to publish an FAQ within a few months of a new codex or army book's release. The questions answered in our FAQs have been gathered from many sources. Some have been submitted by members of the public, others by representatives of the online gaming community and more still are the result of face to face meetings with players themselves. The Studio is always happy to consider more questions, and aim to update the FAQs as frequently as is possible.

If you have a particular rules question that you can't solve by talking it through with your gaming friends, then get in touch with the Studio by writing to:

Design Studio
Games Workshop
Willow Road
Lenton
Nottingham
NG7 2WS

Though please note that although each and every letter will be read, you may not receive a reply and your question might not appear as part of an FAQ document - as the name suggests, it really depends how frequently asked it is.

You'll find more information on FAQs and all of the current FAQ documents here.

Finally, remember that the staff of your local Hobby Centre are all enthusiastic hobbyists and will be more than happy to help answer your questions or chat about anything hobby related.

It doesn't mention the wholesale and virtually word-for-word stealing of FAQ material from the internet though.

**Alpharius**

80 Gargoyles min?

Ouch!

**Schepp himself**

H.B.M.C. wrote:

It doesn't mention the wholesale and virtually word-for-word stealing of FAQ material from the internet though.

Stealing from the internet!

Thanks for that H.B.M.C.

Greets
Schepp himself

**Alpharius**

Well, as silly as it may sounds, it actually did happen...

See GW v. Gwar!, re Space Wolf FAQ 2010

**A-P**

Alpharius wrote:Well, as silly as it may sounds, it actually did happen...

See GW v. Gwar!, re Space Wolf FAQ 2010

I just read the thread where GW;s answer to Gwar! was revealed. So basically GW denied everything, color me suprised

. Well, one occasion of "parallel evolution" just might happen in the universe but I will be expecting the GW Tyranid FAQ with GREAT interest. If that also magically follows GWAR!;s version down to choice of words and punctuation, I call BS...

**Alpharius**

A-P wrote:
Alpharius wrote:Well, as silly as it may sounds, it actually did happen...

See GW v. Gwar!, re Space Wolf FAQ 2010

I just read the thread where GW;s answer to Gwar! was revealed. So basically GW denied everything, color me suprised . Well, one occasion of "parallel evolution" just might happen in the universe but I will be expecting the GW Tyranid FAQ with GREAT interest. If that also magically follows GWAR!;s version down to choice of words and punctuation, I call BS...

What?!?

GW actually replied/responded to the claims?

Can someone point me (link please!) to where?

Help!

**Kirasu**

I rather GW steal FAQs than not do anything for years!

**Savnock**

Kirasu wrote:I rather GW steal FAQs than not do anything for years!

Ditto, but with collaborating and giving credit where due as the logical and easy middle ground.

**JohnHwangDD**

GW Mutalisk Swarm FTW!

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GentlemanGuy wrote:the other one is an all trygon force with an alpha trygon. this force have a more powerful electric blast

See? How awesome is that!

**OnTheEdge**

These Datasheets are becoming more and more laughable.

//Edge

**H.B.M.C.**

Savnock wrote:Ditto, but with collaborating and giving credit where due as the logical and easy middle ground.

Try telling that to the guy who wrote the BB Living Rulebook for them...

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Schepp himself wrote: Stealing from the internet!

Thanks for that H.B.M.C.

Don't be intentionally dense. Anyone with half a brain knows exactly what I'm talking about, especially Gwar!, who's FAQ was virtually word for word what GW wrote... sorry, stole.

**Schepp himself**

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Schepp himself wrote: Stealing from the internet!

Thanks for that H.B.M.C.

Don't be intentionally dense. Anyone with half a brain knows exactly what I'm talking about, especially Gwar!, who's FAQ was virtually word for word what GW wrote... sorry, stole.

Was it copyrighted? How do you define stealing when there was no intention of making money with it in the first place (by Gwar!) and none by GW afterwards?
Sure, basic manners would demand at least an honourable mention in my opinion, but to use the word stealing, especially in the context of something "published" on the internet, is exaggerated.

Greets
Schepp himself

**UltraPrime**

But GW did use manners! They obviously read Gwar's FAQ, and didn't send a C+D! How much more polite were you expecting from the Evil GW Corporation (tm)!

**H.B.M.C.**

They did tell him that his FAQ was a work derived from their IP which, whilst technically true, is nothing more than nice way of saying "Don't push your luck".

Such a warm fuzzy and friendly company.

**Schepp himself**

Never said that GW didn't feature a massive dick move there...

I simply don't get how they let opportunities like these slip through. You have a armada of die-hard gamers out there willing to do the work for you. For free. Within a few freakin days. How could you possibly feth this up?

I simply don't get this.

Greets
Schepp himself

**H.B.M.C.**

Schepp himself wrote:How could you possibly feth this up?

I simply don't get this.

It's Games Workshop. You've been around the block enough times to know their track record with 'getting it right'.

**Orlanth**

I wrote a post here a few years back my 'you make the call' on the Fire Prism. The current Fire Prism is exactly the same as my recommendation with narrow and wide arc settings of varying strength down to the same ranges S and Ap of the weapon.

I don't mind, don't mind at all. Gwar should likewise shut up and be happy, in effect he gets to write the codex.

I really hope GW dont take Gwars lead for Monstrous Creatures with wings, as his interpretation of this rule sucks. At 60pts for the biomorph I want my Hive Tyrant to deepstrike thankyou very much.

**H.B.M.C.**

Our Tyranid Codex had 'Shadow in the Warp' long before it appeared in any GW Codex... but they wrote their own. They didn't take my rule and re-print it word for word.

**Whatever1**

A-P wrote:
Alpharius wrote:Well, as silly as it may sounds, it actually did happen...

See GW v. Gwar!, re Space Wolf FAQ 2010

I just read the thread where GW;s answer to Gwar! was revealed. So basically GW denied everything, color me suprised . Well, one occasion of "parallel evolution" just might happen in the universe but I will be expecting the GW Tyranid FAQ with GREAT interest. If that also magically follows GWAR!;s version down to choice of words and punctuation, I call BS...

Great...so now I expect GW's FAQ to follow some completely contradictory,irrational,and illogical trains of thought just so they won't have to deal with whining from people saying they ripped off somebody who wrote their own FAQ.

In all seriousness,it's an FAQ. The spirit of the rules is usually pretty clear,and as an FAQ,the intent of the document is to answer the question in as clear and concise a manner possible,so the wording should be pretty similar.

Maybe GW ripped Gwar off or maybe they didn't. If they did rip him off,they don't have to acknowledge it,because he's using their IP and copywrited material as a basis for his FAQ in the first place. Truthfully,if they did steal it,then they probably SHOULDN'T give him credit,either. It sets a dangerous precedent,and GW would soon be completely buried under a deluge of fanboy created rules,FAQ's,and codexes if they did acknowledge it. Personally,I think it's a little ironic that a guy who stole his internet identity from a cult band and stole the basis for his FAQ from GW in the first place would turn around and complain that they stole his work from him,but whatever.

**sirisaacnuton**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
Oh, and this part's amusing:

The Studio aims to publish an FAQ within a few months of a new codex or army book's release.

Wow...guess that means we should be seeing one for the Daemons any day now...

**H.B.M.C.**

An FAQ for Daemons is as unnecessary as that Codex was in the first place.

**Kid_Kyoto**

Schepp himself wrote:
Was it copyrighted? How do you define stealing when there was no intention of making money with it in the first place (by Gwar!) and none by GW afterwards?
Sure, basic manners would demand at least an honourable mention in my opinion, but to use the word stealing, especially in the context of something "published" on the internet, is exaggerated.

Greets
Schepp himself

I don't know UK law but in the US anything written is considered your copyright unless those rights are explicitly surrendered. Claiming copyright increases your protection, filing a copy with the Library of Congress does so even more. But even if I scribble something on a napkin no one has the right to reprint it without my permission.

**Quintinus**

H.B.M.C. wrote:An FAQ for Daemons is as unnecessary as that Codex was in the first place.

My thoughts exactly.