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v2 of Primer Packet
http://novaopen.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Open-Primer-Missions-v2.pdf

Good Afternoon,

The NOVA Open, Virginia's only current / first Vegas qualifying Circuit Tournament for Warhammer and Warhammer 40k will be on August 14, 2010 of this year, with ancillary events on August 13 and 15.

Although more information and registration data is available at http://novaopen.com and will be more detailed as the event date becomes closer, here's a few brief primers for the moment:

1) Make a vacation out of it! Games Day 2010 in Baltimore is nearby, and is the Saturday after the NOVA Open, allowing the intrepid summer adventurer to head for a week of fun and sun in our nation's capital, with a Vegas qualifying GT on one end, and Games Day on the other.

2) This will be a 4 round tournament with over $5,000 in prizes and growing, with EQUAL awards and recognition for all style of hobbyist and gamer (from the ultra competitive to the extremely artistic), all for the flat registration fee of $50. Additional events have been added at the collocated Holiday Inn on Friday and Sunday, August 13 and 15.

3) 2,000 Points Warhammer 40k; 2,250 Points Warhammer Fantasy

4) The opportunity to have an opinion-based role in the development of the tournament; comment and discuss tournament-related subjects ranging from sportsmanship and composition to scenarios and scoring at one of the tournament organizer's blogs at http://whiskey40k.blogspot.com (search through the blog for tournament related subjects, such as sportsmanship, composition, scenarios, etc.).

5) 96 slots for 40k, 32 slots for Fantasy in a 10,000+ square foot facility at the Dulles Expo Center in Northern Virginia, mere minutes from Washington, DC, and approximately 1 hour from Baltimore Games Day. There is a hotel on site, and hotel booking / details will be available on the website in the near future.

Again, far more information, FAQ's, rules packets, etc., will be forthcoming as the date gets closer.
An important note for 40k participants (and Fantasy, to a lesser extent) is that the event is filling up more rapidly and earlier than we anticipated. If you think there's a good chance you'll be attending, registering early is a very good idea. If we fill, our ability to expand to more slots may be there, but will almost certainly come at a higher registration price for later sign-ups.

If you have any questions, feel free to PM me here or e-mail me at mvbrandt@gmail.com

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Badump; filling at a rather surprising rate, over 20% with the tourney not until August.
   
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Bump!

Information update ...
Combined best performance for Renaissance Man for each system will be a superior prize to the above, as will the competitive Tournament Champion for each event.

4 Major “Soft” Awards (Sportsmanship, Players’ Choice, Painting, Conversion by system)

4 Major “Competitive” Awards (Each 4-0 Finisher by system)

2 Top Awards (Renaissance Man – Combined scores; Tournament Champion – Competitive)

Sunday “Final Four” 2-Round Invitational for the 4-0 Finishers in each system

Top-in-Bracket Awards for 2-2, 3-1 brackets; Door Prizes and Random Draw Prizes throughout the day


Spots continue to sell at a faster-than-anticipated rate for so many months out.
Sponsorships are rising, resulting in a higher than advertised prize pool (and more "swag" for all).Bump!

Information update ...
Combined best performance for Renaissance Man for each system will be a superior prize to the above, as will the competitive Tournament Champion for each event.

4 Major “Soft” Awards (Sportsmanship, Players’ Choice, Painting, Conversion by system)

4 Major “Competitive” Awards (Each 4-0 Finisher by system)

2 Top Awards (Renaissance Man – Combined scores; Tournament Champion – Competitive)

Sunday “Final Four” 2-Round Invitational for the 4-0 Finishers in each system

Top-in-Bracket Awards for 2-2, 3-1 brackets; Door Prizes and Random Draw Prizes throughout the day


Spots continue to sell at a faster-than-anticipated rate for so many months out.
Sponsorships are rising, resulting in a higher than advertised prize pool (and more "swag" for all).
   
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Feasting on the souls of unworthy opponents

I was about to scratch out one of the other east coast events I was attending in favor of this - 3 hour drive is much better than a 3,000 mile flight, an 11 hour drive south, or a 7 hour drive north.....

And then thought I should slow down and ask a couple questions:

1. Why only 4 rounds? If you have room for 64 people, and are rewarding each category of hobbyist, a 4 round tournament should end up with 4 people that are undefeated and potentially tied in points; opposed to a 5 round tournament where the top tables are generally #1 and #2, and one of the two winners there is going to sweep the event. Anything to cut down the possibility of late-tournament shenanigans, or the possibility of multiple people all deserving to have won without enough rounds to separate them is good.

2. What's the breakdown of points for the event? Battlepoints vs Composition Points vs Sportsmanship points vs. Painting points? There have been shenanigans and public outcry over how some events have been handled (or mishandled) and its probably important to explain what points go where. The Broadside Bash GT ended up having something like 43% battlepoints, making it extremely untournament-like, which has made a fair few extremely well-known players out on the side of the country decide not to attend any more events hosted by those folks. Transparency in scoring is important. There are some good threads to read about here about comp scoring, sportsmanship scoring, whether either of those does anything useful....etc.

3. Do you have scenarios?


Call me cautious, but I seek knowledge before committing time and money to an event.


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All good questions, and completely understandable!

Let me see if I can answer them to good effect ...

1. It's 4 rounds for the majority of the tournament field. There will be exactly 4 x 4-0 players by the end of Saturday, each of whom will be invited to a 2nd day smaller venue for a 2-round Tourney Champ "final four" resulting in a single 6-0 finisher. The 4-0 finishers will also all receive a Top Commander award. So, basically you get a prize, clear placement, and recognition if you go 4-0, and you get a 2-round shot at the single undefeated finisher as well.

2. Points are separate but equal. There are 4 soft prizes, not influenced by competitiveness (sportsmanship, painting, conversion, players' choice). There are 4 hard prizes, not influenced by soft (the 4-0 finishers). There's a single "Renaissance Man" award that is equal parts appearance, sports, battle, and a "Tournament Champion" award that is the 6-0 finisher.

3. We do have scenarios. Although this is still subject to change, you should anticipate a format like this:

3 "objectives" are in play at all times - Victory Points, 5 Objectives, 2 "deployment zone" objectives (so, the 3 book missions, with VP instead of KP). For each round, one will be the win condition, and the other two will be primary and secondary tiebreakers. For all rounds, if everything is tied, marginal VP difference will be the tiebreaker. Each round will vary one of the book deployment styles, and will shuffle the win condition objective, primary tiebreaker, and secondary tiebreaker. For the final round, the combination of deployment, win condition, primary and 2ndary tiebreakers will be determined for the entire field by RANDOM roll just before the round begins.

In example (PURELY example), Round 1 you win or lose by Victory Points, break the VP draw margin by Objectives (x5), break THAT draw margin by HQ objectives (x2), and if necessary revert to simple VP preponderance of all of those are drawn. You'll be in a Dawn of War deployment. In Round 2, you'll win or lose by Objectives (x5), break a draw on that objective with HQ objectives (x2), and break THAT tie by Victory Points. You'd be in Pitched Battle deployment. Etc. So to keep things more competitive, you don't have 18 different major and minor missions to have to learn over a simple 3 round event ... but at the same time, it varies itself up enough that each mission is different and requires a balanced army to win with.

Basically, you're going to see an event where the things you have to accomplish, for which you score points and wins, will be the same by round. BUT, to keep it balanced and varying, the primary and main tiebreaker will constantly be changing, as will deployment.

This system is still in pretty intensive playtesting among people who will NOT be permitted to participate in the tournament, as we want to make sure it's functional and evaluative.

I'm happy to answer any questions you have to the best of my ability. The point here is to have an event that very clearly identifies both the best players, and the best hobbyists, without shenanigans or corrupting amalgamations of the two. There are awards for softer players, harder players, and people who pursue both equally.

You're also likely to see "best in" for each of the non-4-0 brackets (so lesser top prizes for those who lose once, twice, etc.).

Hope that's a helpful starter on the Q-mark front.

- Mike Brandt, TO

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Weren't you at Adepticon?

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I was, finished 9th overall, 7th in heat ... enjoyed it. Don't think we ran into each other.


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Information for folks to chew on ... nothing "formal" until on site, but you can count on this for the most part.


Scoring and Pairing

First Rounds are random paired

2nd and 3rd rounds are elimintation paired (meaning, that the highest scoring 1-0 faces the lowest scoring 1-0, for example)

Final round is swiss paired (in any true tournament, the ideal is for 1 to face 2 in round 4, 3 to face 4, etc.); this also enables armies built around winning vs. mauling people to be more competitive

In the 2nd day invitational final four, it's 1v4 and 2v3 leading into the ifnal

Seeding and scoring is based upon ((win % x Factor) + (netVP%) + (objective%) + (HQ%)) (basically, the % of each of the three missions you've scored)

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After a long chat (after which Google Chat broke) with Michael, I'm in!!

Couple of notes to make for dakka-ites that have somewhat been elaborated on, but that people like me are too thick to read right:

1. Saturday's tournament is a 4 round GT. At the end, 4 people will be 4-0. Those 4 win a Top General Award, and are invited on to Sunday's tournament, which is a two round event from which only one will emerge 6-0.

2. Painting and Sportsmanship have their own categories and awards, but the tournament portion of the event is how well you fight, not how well you paint. *cheers*

Of uber awesomeness, the rules packet apparently includes a requirement that tournament players shower before the event and apply deodorant before the tournament. *cackles*

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Dashofpepper wrote:but the tournament portion of the event is how well you fight, not how well you paint. *cheers*



Don't hate on us painters!!! Someone has got to go 0-4! And if I gotta go down... I'm gonna be looking gooooooood! ;D

What are the 'appearance' rules? WYSIWYG and 3colors and based? While it isn't a huge deal, I have attended 'ardboyz with 'armless greys' armies and I found myself simply not enjoying any aspect of the event.

I like the format, seems to make both us softies and the hardies happy. Since this is local for me I am going to go clear my calendar and see if I can go.


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I am 99.9999999999999999% positive there will be a 3color+based minimum. WYSIWYG is required.

All of this should go up in the next week or two in intense detail - waiting on our Fantasy-side organizer to wrap up the details they've gotta cover.

I should make certain to note that this is not an 'Ard Boyz style event where the soft side of the hobby is de-emphasized, just doing our best to emphasize ALL components.

Glad to hear you're planning on attending ... I'm happy to help "out-region" folks in terms of things to do in DC, places to stay, etc., as well. We may also block off some discounted rooms at the local hotel owned by the Dulles Expo Center to boot.
   
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What happens if 4 people don't go 4-0? Seems presumptuous to assume that there will be 4 entire people out of 64 that will win every single one of their games. Especially if you're doing majors, minors, etc.

Just a thought.

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Dodiez wrote:What happens if 4 people don't go 4-0? Seems presumptuous to assume that there will be 4 entire people out of 64 that will win every single one of their games. Especially if you're doing majors, minors, etc.

Just a thought.

--Mrs. Dash


A good question! We don't have draws in our events. It's a win-loss, with tournament bracket #'s (64, not 60, or 63, or 65, etc.). So, you're going to see 64 filter down to a predictable # of 4-0's, 3-1's, 2-2's, 1-3's, 0-4's, which also impacts our prize / award system.

We have trophies and prizes for the top finishers by win/loss bracket as well, and a lot of other lesser prizes throughout the day for performances by round, yatta yatta. There actually will be 4 x 4-0.

It's an "easy" thing to make whether you won or lost a game fuzzy via major/minor, no "primary" win condition, etc. We try to take the tougher road for a better tournament for *all* (competitive, non-competitive, etc.).

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sounds pretty cool, always good to have more NOVA events!

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For those of you in the NOVA area, we try to maintain a listing of area events on the IFL forum. See my sig for the link.
And Mike, I'm in, I'll get signed up shortly.

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I think I'll be able to make this one. And seeing as I live in VA, it would be a shame to miss it.

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Good to hear on all fronts.

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I could well be wrong but weren't you bashing Adepticon last week?

G

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@GBF - I've recently read Mike's blog and listened to his appearance on the Gamer's Lounge Podcast and I have no issues with what he has said about AdeptiCon. I think Mike gets sort of lumped in with the Stelek crowd from time to time, but I think if you take the time to listen to what he has to say, you will find him to be reasonable and really level-headed.

His issues with AdeptiCon are all things we have acknowledged either post-con or for the past year. I do not necessarily agree with his analysis of the missions, or that draws do not have a place in the tournament setting, but I would hardly call it bashing. This was Mike's first year at the convention, I can understand someone having issues with them.

I like what I have heard about the NOVA Open so far. I think Mike has taken a good look at what has and hasn't worked for other events over the years, listened to what some select sections of the community want, and is attempting to address what he sees a hole in the competitive community without alienating others. Exactly what someone needs to do for the competitive crowd. Bravo to him.

   
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Just a thought, wouldn't be more exciting to run the second day event with the four winners as round robin? Certainly there should be enough time. Like I said just a thought.

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Now that I've really read up on this event it really looks to be the kind of thing for which I've been clamoring. I'm going to put my money where my mouth is and make every effort to attend this, and hopefully drag some of the Battle for Salvation club with me.

This might be buried on the site somewhere but how long are the rounds? Hopefully 2.5 hours, though I know BoLScon tried for 2 due to the 7 game format.

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Danny Internets wrote:Now that I've really read up on this event it really looks to be the kind of thing for which I've been clamoring. I'm going to put my money where my mouth is and make every effort to attend this, and hopefully drag some of the Battle for Salvation club with me.

This might be buried on the site somewhere but how long are the rounds? Hopefully 2.5 hours, though I know BoLScon tried for 2 due to the 7 game format.


He said somewhere between 2:15 and 2:30 in our chat earlier.

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Except for the no ties there isn't much of a difference between this tournament and a lot of others on the circuit Danny. They are still giving a Best Overall, Best General, Best Painted/Army, Best Sport. So how does the breakdown differ from the awards given out for other tournaments?

Props for running it so that you can determine the overall winner of 64 people. I would suggest depending on the cost that the tournament should just go 2 days. The only issue I forsee is people not knowing if they need a room for the night or not based on whether they will be playing the next day which you can eliminate by just giving everyone 7 games like BoLScon. I personally feel like I wouldn't want to travel a major distance to this event because I could be paying $50 (GT prices) for a 4 game tournament. Is it just so that you only have to get the convention center for 1 day? If so then this makes sense as I understand needing to stay in the black.

This is just personal opinion and you know what they say about opinions Just thought I'd mention it though.

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The no ties thing is pretty gigantic. Not to mention the entirely different format with a second day invitational and separate scoring for different aspects of the hobby. And the tournament winner is actually awarded to the person who won the tournament rather than the hobby event. Read the description of the event if you want to learn more.
   
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Danny, glad to hear you and your club may be coming to join us. I've been fielding a lot of "maybes" from a number of regular net celebs, ranging from YTTH to BOLS "regulars." Should be interesting!

I would avoid highlighting us as "too" different. The only thing I'll say is I don't know why tournaments will run, say, 120 slots instead of 128, and so on and so forth. It's difficult to really evaluate much competitively when you have ties, and uneven numbers (resulting in differing performances inevitably facing each other), and it extends a tournament by numerous rounds in theory if you want to reach a "best" performer. You get further from the beaten path when you have marginal and major victories, and scaling victory "score" putting people away from others in competition, b/c it subjects the field too much to "my army tables people" or "I drew easier first couple of opponents" ... begging numerous subsequent questions. We're doing our best to, instead of awarding Duke the title based upon them scoring more points on their way to the final game, award it to the player/team that wins the actual 61-59 heart-stopper at the last moment of the final game. We'll see how it works!

Regarding the input - I appreciate all of it. This is not "Mike's 40k Tourney," so much as it's "Mike's best attempt at addressing a wide range of needs and inputs in pursuit of a well-rounded 40k (and Fantasy) tourney."

Regarding the Round Robin on the 2nd day - not a terrible idea. We will need to - to a degree - be flexible with too many games on Day 2; people who finish in the top 4 but traveled may be on more strict schedules.

Regarding the unpredictability of "do I go for 2 days, or 1?" With 4 rounds, we're actually competitively priced with a lot of other GT's on the circuit, some of which only offer 3 rounds. That said, in the FUTURE (next year, the year after, etc.) we will be extending to two days and providing 6-7 rounds for everyone, regardless of performance. This year, because it is our first "Step" toward eventual convention, we just can't quite stay in the black and host a 2nd day at the expo center. Or, if we did, the prize support (which is in excess of $4,000 at the moment, enabling us to provide swag and booty to just about everyone) would plummet to an almost irrelevant number!

Please continue to offer input ... unique or not on the internets, I care far more about improving event presentation than pushing personal agenda.

- Mike

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Hulksmash wrote:Except for the no ties there isn't much of a difference between this tournament and a lot of others on the circuit Danny. They are still giving a Best Overall, Best General, Best Painted/Army, Best Sport. So how does the breakdown differ from the awards given out for other tournaments?



Small note to make here, but it makes a difference.

At the end of the first day there are multiple "Best General" awards, and are given to the four folks who went 4-0. Thus ends the GT tournament. The prize of "Best Overall" goes to the winner of the swiss invitational (sorry if that's the wrong classification) the next day. IE, its the player who went 6-0. Their painting, sportsmanship, comp are irrelevant to them winning best overall. Those categories are judged and given prizes separately from the TOURNAMENT piece of it, as it should be.

That's the difference between the Nova Open and every other event. They aren't lumping scoring for the hobby portions and behavioral portions into the tournament piece, they're treating each of those categories with equal respect instead.

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I think round robin on the second day would produce a more clearcut winner overall. I don't see why playing one more game is that big of a deal either in regards to time. Adepticon has three games on Sunday and there were plenty of people who played... Didn't seem to affected anyone's travel schedule.

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Black Blow Fly wrote:I think round robin on the second day would produce a more clearcut winner overall. I don't see why playing one more game is that big of a deal either in regards to time. Adepticon has three games on Sunday and there were plenty of people who played... Didn't seem to affected anyone's travel schedule.

G


Ugh.

Getting home two and half hours later on a Sunday when people have to work the next day could be a deciding factor.

"I don't see why playing one more game is that big of a deal" comes off as rude to me, honestly. You have already tried to sow dissension earlier in the thread. Mr. "weren't you bashing Adepticon".

Just because one tourney does something does not mean this one will do that. Obviously, he wants to be a little different from the rest. That's the point here.

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Well, that becomes another point of discussion, on my blog and elsewhere. Suppose you have 4 players and you do a Round Robin instead of a traditional tournament approach.

Player 1 beats 2 and 3, but loses to 4
Player 2 beats 3 and 4, but loses to 1
Player 3 loses to everyone
Player 4 beats 1 and 3, but loses to 2

Now Players 1, 3 and 4 are all 2-1. Who is the clearcut winner overall?

Now you're back at the place where most other tournaments are at, of using ARBITRARY methods like "battle points" to determine a winner, which was the problem in the first place.

See the challenges presented? In a perfect world, the Round Robin would yield one 3-0 guy and a bunch of 2-1, 1-2, 0-3, whatevers. In reality, you're as likely to completely muddy the waters with a trio of 2-1's as not, causing more trouble and as mentioned delaying peoples' home arrival even further.


PS - Dodiez, thanks, but there's no need to defend. I would presume Black Blow Fly wasn't trying to sow dissension ... we both run GT's on the circuit, I believe, and it would be the poorest of form to try and actively go after another one. As mentioned earlier, I was generally quite positive about Adepticon, with the caveat that I thought the scenarios and # of rounds could be improved for the 1850 championships. Unless I'm mistaken and he has some beef, BBF is just offering his $.02 as I did for Adepticon, and I'll ignore the lack of tone that the internet conveys. I'm sure he means it all in the cheeriest and most positive of ways.

PPS - For people not sure about the travel and all for a day, take note that North American Games Day is one week later, on Saturday August 21. It's about one hour from the Tourney Venue. If you're trying to figure out a good vacation spot for your Summer, DC in August can be a ton of fun, with a great night life and a ton of activities going on at the National Mall and other places, right next to all the monuments. DC Natives putting on the event such as myself are happy to provide guidance and suggestion, or even join you for nights out in the City. There is also a Holiday Inn owned by the Dulles Expo Center that I'll be adding info about soon along with the rest, and it is currently offering King bedrooms at ~$70 night, basically on-site w/ the tourney venue, and within a couple of miles of the Sunday Invitational venue.

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