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Decrepit Dakkanaut







Sorry, several Warseer veterans found it funny to post made up false rumours in March and call it April fools. Shame on them.
So all the new stuff in this summary is no rumour at all. The thread can now be closed



Seems like the rumours on the upcoming Dark Eldar release get a bit more concrete. I will take the new Warseer thread as a basis: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=251993 and try to keep this first post updated with information from that thread and this one. As this is again much work, I will leave out explicit credits to the posters of each information in these threads (mostly found in first post of Warseer thread) but like to express my sincere thanks to all of them.

Of course keep in mind that these are just rumours, some of them with (to me) unknown sources. Still this summary should get closer to the mark given time.



General
The Codex is ready, translated but not at the printers yet (24th March). Not known if it will get the Oct.2010 or January 2011 slot for its release (pending marketing decision after Easter). Others put the release later, most within 12 months.
Background may be (re)written but keeps the general theme.
One podcast is certain that DE are the next Codex and due this year. Others are certain that Grey Knights will be next and due this year.
Rumours of an official announcement pretty soon.


Background
As Craftworld Eldar technology is based on Wraithbone, all DE technology is based on pain as a power source. All major vehicles are powered by flayed slaves, and jetbikes, skyboards etc are said to be charged up before battle. All their ranged weapons have blades as a means of recharging them, even if it means cutting yourself.
This theme follows on into other equipment too, like the new power field for ICs that is a 4+Inv save that gets +1 to the roll for each wound the character has lost. It specifically tells you to roll each save separately so you can apply the appropriate bonus.

The DE conquer and enslave an Imperial world, abandoning it only after the arrival of the Imperial Pacificus fleet.

A populated exodite world 'turns to darkness' after being infiltrated by a DE Slaanesh cult, and after slaughtering wholesale those who oppose them, escape into the webway.


Units
Characters can get "Catcher of Souls", a power weapon (?) with a vampiric effect: wearer gets one life for each unsaved hit.
Another source says no power weapons in the Codex (Except MC Talos) but lots of rending (and source="Thud" from Warseer is pretty sure about it).
Lots of new special characters and a new HQ choice.
Several Psi powers (no general psi hate any more as it seems, but perils of the warp harder than for other races): "Dark Kiss" (?, target in 12" makes ld test with 2 highest of 3d6, failure means target removed no questions asked and no saves allowed), "pain something" (target unit gets FNP until their next round) plus 2 other less strong ones.

Special character "Asdrubael Vect"
Gets "terror field" (all enemy units retreat on 4+ no questions asked no special rules allowed)
Those 2 Incubi on the barge are "Black Guard" (they get 5 attacks while embarked, enemy can only hit barge not Incubi; every enemy killed in cc will fuel the barge for +1" !)

Special Character "Enuviel the Dethroned"
Slaanesh worshipper. Cabal Lord (Dracon/Archon) of the old Ways. Makes the whole army Slaanesh worshippers (sigh!).

Special Character "Shlit'Endapo Nih"
(name only heard, not seen written). A wych with many attacks.

Haemunculi
A Haemunculi upgrade allows the DE player to take control of a run down unit rather than destroying it.

Wyches
Different types of Wych weapons, not the current standardized ones. Rending in cc. Can no longer get ranged weapon upgrades (Blasters etc).
Combat Drug rolls for wych cult amended to:
1. +1 S, Rage
2. I 10, ignores cover penalties
3. Furious Charge
4. Feel No Pain
5. 12" assault, 3d6" fall back
6. Choose one of the above.

Incubi
Rending cc weapons and short ranged low ap guns. Squad leader has "super-rending" weapon (think Skulltaker). Squad leader can get "Exarch power" resembling upgrades.

Warp Beasts
Unit Upgrade for a Wych Squad on foot/Equipment upgrade for a Succubus. Can be taken by any number of Succubi.

Talos
The Talos will be a walker "of sorts", with special rules increasing its durability. It will have a variety of options, including a "weaponised psyker" (psyker upgrade). They are Heavy, but can also be Elites if you take a Haemunculus as your HQ.

Reavers
Reavers will be able to drag models away from units and drop them as a blast weapon.
Vehicle Upgrade "Shadow Field" (enemy must use Night Fight rules to target vehicle).

Dark Crow
Even more salt for this rumour entry: Fast attack choice (a Valkyrie equivalent?).
Weapons: 2 Dark Lances, Dark Shard Projector ( S5 AP4 Heavy 20, Pinning)
Special Rules: Deep Strike, Scout, Assault Vehicle, Dark Avarice? (don't know what that does)
Transport Capacity: May transport up to eight models.
Appearance described as "Jabba's Skiff" style transport.


Miniatures
Model range completely redone by Jes Goodwin. He got all the time he needed to get this done, therefore no estimated release date for several years. With that many new models, a release in waves sounds likely, with plastic warriors, wyches and Raiders/Ravagers likely candidates for a first wave (my conclusion, not exactly a rumour).

Warriors are like the one in the rulebook ( http://www.pbase.com/brimstone/image/97930904.jpg ), but spikier (10 per box for the usual price). Splinter rifle as seen in an early CAD pic but spikier as well.

Plastic Wyches are basically just a direct copy of the current ones but in plastic (others deny that because sculptor Fitzpatrick has left GW and the models are not popular), there will be a lot of 'fluff' pieces on the sprue (armour plates, trophies, that sort of thing) to make them more customisable. Also rumoured to come with a lot of weapon options, supposedly each weapon option is available for the entire squad. Again 10 per box.

New Incubi models look like a fusion of several CWE Aspect Warriors. Poses are very dynamic like the 3rd edition Scorpions. Tormentor Helms now have masks similar to Jain Zarr, moulded to look like they are twisted in tortured agony and the ranged weapon is mounted on the left temple. Much heavier armoured like Dark Reapers, but covered with spikes and blades. Punishers are no longer 2 handed polearms, but are a pair of spiked cudgels with Splinter Pistols in the hilts. Drazhar won't be getting a new mini in the first wave, and will be discontinued until a new model can be made that fits the new asthetic.

Raider possibly as in the rulebook ( http://www.pbase.com/brimstone/image/97930903/large.jpg ) with sails.

Talos is getting a plastic model with loads of options.

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Good stuff here. I can't wait for their release.
   
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I will be exuberant if this is true. Can't wait for some photographic confirmation.
   
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April Fools?

   
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Still wish it were 'crons next, but I'm incredibly happy for DE players if this is true.

Hopefully they won't mess up the background too much, but I really feel as current it's trying a little hard to be dark and edgy, even by 40k standards

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Would be nice, It's only a matter of time now.

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Kroothawk wrote:Warriors are like the one in the rulebook, but spikier (10 per box for the usual price). Splinter rifle as seen in an early CAD pic but spikier as well.

Spikier? Oh God no!

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The sink.

No power weapons? What the crap?!
   
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Well,i guess i will keep my dark elar for a little while unless some one wants them,if they make the warriors armor 4+ Il keep em.

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Noisy_Marine wrote:No power weapons? What the crap?!


Well presumably you'd expect special rending rules (a la skulltaker) on a lot of units, and low-AP shooting.

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The sink.

Yes, it's just that power weapons are a lot more reliable then rending. Just look at genestealers in the new Nid codex. I've yet to see them perform well in close combat even with a lot of attacks.
   
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Noisy_Marine wrote:Yes, it's just that power weapons are a lot more reliable then rending. Just look at genestealers in the new Nid codex. I've yet to see them perform well in close combat even with a lot of attacks.


Uh, really? Are you running like 5-strong 'stealer broods?

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Noisy_Marine wrote:Yes, it's just that power weapons are a lot more reliable then rending. Just look at genestealers in the new Nid codex. I've yet to see them perform well in close combat even with a lot of attacks.



Huh??

What Numbers are you running them in? are you using Toxin Sacs?

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The sink.

I'm not running them, Nid players at my store are. Against me, I've seen 20 genestealers bounce off a squad of terminators.
   
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Kroothawk wrote:

Special Character "Shlit'Endapo Nih"
A wych with many attacks.


Ok - WTH is this name? Anyone want to take a phonetic stab at it?

Kroothawk wrote:

Haemunculi
A Haemunculi upgrade allows the DE player to take control of a run down unit rather than destroying it.


This sounds pretty cool if it's a temp ability. Can't imagine how many people would take Haemunculi (and GW selling point) if you can control another person troops choice and grab objectives

The unknown about the warriors makes me think the codex isn't quite as ready as we thought, though in my post earlier it stated something about new sails for the Raiders, so I guess we'll find out in Sept/Oct.

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Gathering the Informations.

Uriels_Flame wrote:
Kroothawk wrote:

Special Character "Shlit'Endapo Nih"
A wych with many attacks.


Ok - WTH is this name? Anyone want to take a phonetic stab at it?

Nope, because it's made up by bashing fingers on keyboard. Even Goto couldn't make up a name that bad.

I can't really see them NOT taking the time to completely revamp the background. Dark Eldar could be so much more than Eldar with a S&M kink and 80's Whitesnake hairdos.
   
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Well this is the "closest" Ive seen it get in years. Im sure its the DE wannabe in me, but Im kind of excited!
   
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Well, the last bit of that name comes out like "and a pony."

I'm thinking early April Fools, but we did have Sly Marbo for the Guard and the Buffy knockoff for Necromunda...

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Noisy_Marine wrote:I'm not running them, Nid players at my store are. Against me, I've seen 20 genestealers bounce off a squad of terminators.


You do realize that 30 rending attacks that hit on a 3+ not tearing through termies is a statistical anomaly, right? Not to mention the fact that said tyranid player should be investing in Toxin sacs, which should be netting him about 4 termie kills on average.

Unless they're equipped with SS. Then there's really nothing that tears through them short of an warscythe, C'Tan, or phase blade.

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Gathering the Informations.

Jbuckmaster wrote:Well, the last bit of that name comes out like "and a pony."

I'm thinking early April Fools, but we did have Sly Marbo for the Guard and the Buffy knockoff for Necromunda...

-John

Yeah, but Sly Marbo has been a part of Catachan lore for how long?

Plus: He's now "Guardsman" Marbo. The Sly part is gone, which of course means he's no longer an inside joke nod.
He's no super serious lore materials!
   
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Uriels_Flame wrote:
Kroothawk wrote:

Special Character "Shlit'Endapo Nih"
A wych with many attacks.


Ok - WTH is this name? Anyone want to take a phonetic stab at it?


SCHLITT end A pu nee (stress the capitalized syllables

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Shetland pony? Makes me think this is an April fools :/

   
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gak inapony.

It's no worse than Cruella Deville from the last book.

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Shetland Pony?

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Nurgleboy77 wrote:Shitinapony.

It's no worse than Cruella Deville from the last book.



Sod it, let's just call her pet land discounts for now.
   
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Jbuckmaster wrote:I'm thinking early April Fools, but we did have Sly Marbo for the Guard and the Buffy knockoff for Necromunda...


I suspect you mean Zara the Slayer, who is a Blood Bowl Star Player.

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 Kanluwen wrote:
This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.

Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...

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You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling.
- No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... 
   
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If this is true then i would definiately consider starting a DE army.

Armies:

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Iron Warriors (8000 points-ish)

 
   
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The SC name was only heard, not seen written, so there are hopes. But GW has a way of chosing names that prove unpopular.
Harry said: "I got the name of another one. Res'quewdon ki. Apparently he has big pointy ears. " But I won't add that to the summary

BTW added rules rumours for wyches and Incubi.

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Dark Shard Projector ( S5 AP4 Heavy 20, Pinning)


Heavy 20?!!?

Is that a typo? I hope not - I'm definitely starting a DE army when this lot finally sees the light of day.

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hmm Will we ever be satisfied with all the armies. They will probably all be updated by 2012 but then apocolypse comes .Damn you Gw ><

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