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So, On Sunday, I got to play in the Championships at Adepticon. It was a ton of fun.

My List:
Daemon Prince, Wings, Mok
Daemon Prince, Wings, Mok
Greater Daemon
7 khorne berzerkers, champ, PF, Rhino
7 khorne berzerkers, Champ, PF, Rhino
7 Khorne berzerkers, Champ, PW, Rhino
Dreadnought, dual DCCW, EA, HF
Dreadnought, dual DCCW, EA, HF
Dreadnought, dual DCCW, EA, HF
Defiler, RAC CCW
Defiler, RAC CCW
Defiler, RAC CCW

When I built this army, I thought of it as something crazy that was not that competitive. I figured, I have no shot at winning the thing, so I might as well try and have fun. I was surprised by this lists performance.

Game 1, Vs IG

I fought a real nice guy named Chris. He took something like this:
a bunch of chimeras full of guys
a Valkyrie full of guys
a vendetta full of guys
leman russ with lascannon
leman russ with lascannon
devil dog with hull multi-melta

The mission was a straight up kill mission. KPs and VPs. He deployed only his russes and devil dog, and I deployed everything.
The details would take a while, but this is basically how it went down: His dice FAILED! It was kind of silly. I advanced taking only a few casualties and killed everything I touched. when the game ended he had 3 chimeras left hiding behind some impassible terrain. He was really chill about it though, and we even talked tactics after the battle. I got 38 points, and he got 0 I believe. I dont owe the victory entirely to the dice, since he did make a lot of tactical errors, such as not moving vendettas that are next to daemon princes, and charging me with leman russes. His target priority was not that great either. but regardless, I got the massacre.

Game 2

This was an objective mission where every terrain element was an objective. Whoever held the most terrain elemnts at the end of the game won. secondary was kill Hqs while keeping yours alive, and tertiary was win by more than 500 VPs.

My opponent was a very nice Tyranid played named Jason( I think so). He ran something like this:

2x tyranid prime, scything talons, Lash whip,
2 big squads of hormagaunts
2 squads of genestealers
3 squads of warriors with scything talons
2 zoanthropes
2 tyrant gaurd(the S8 no line of sight shooty guys)
Trygon
Mawloc


It was night fight turn 1, and dawn of war deployment. He went first and deployed in a line.

Turn 1 he marched up and sent the Mawloc into reserve
my turn 1 I stayed put and tried to see with battlecannons. One got through and with a lucky shot I killed several Warriors.

Next turn he brough in the trygon, mawloc, and a squad of genestealers.
the trygon came in with a bad scatter on my right side, and the mawloc hit my defiler and put a S6 hit on the rear armor of the defiler and 2 dreadnoughts. However, it failed to do anything.

He assaulted a daemon prince on the left side of my lines with 6 genestealers, and to my surprise killed it on one round. His shooting was just out of range.

My turn 2 I assaulted the outflanking stealers with a dreadnought, killed the mawloc with berzerkers, and fired three battle cannons at the zoanthropes and have gaurd. I killed a hive gaurd, a zoanthrope and some more warriors. on the right side, I assaulted a trygon witn another Khorne DP, and to my surprise, it did two wounds to the Trygon and then got killed in one round. Nice job daemon princes. Fail. I moved some berzerkers into a building, and they stayed there the rest of the game.

His turn 3 he kept advancing on me with his stuff, but his reduced numbers kept the tyrant gaurd and the zoanthrope from doing any damage.

my turn 3, one of my dreads goes on a rampage! rolling a 6 for rage. He now must move and fleet and assault the trygon. Not a bad thing. Here is the turning point of the game. Rather than shoots, I move and fleet my defilers forward and assault his zoanthrope and warriors. I move up two dreadnought to support. berzerkers in rhino move up behind. The dread makes it into assault with a difficult terrain test and the trygon puts 4 penetrating hits on him before he can swing. However, khorne like this dreadnought, and he was merely immobilized, and weapon destroyed twice. keeping the trygon locked in combat. Important.

From here on out it is essentially my walkers going on a rampage and murdering everything he has in his army. He piles in everything in an attempt to rend the things to death, but can't pull it off. The game goes until turn 7, and in the last round of assault, I kill his last model, earning me full points.

It was a fun game, and Jason was a good opponent. If I had not had a walker spam list, then my berzerkers would have been in trouble. But luckily, I did. And his army simply had no way to deal with 6 walkers. two of my berzerker squads chilled in rhinos the whole game, and my 2 daemon princes did a grand total of 2 wounds the whole game before dying. But the walkers rampaged, and won me the game.


Game 3

When I saw the table assaignments for round three, I saw that I was tied for second in battle points. If I could win the next round, and thats a big if, I had a shot at placing pretty well.

My third round opponent was Goatboy from Bols. Just to see that guy in real life and get a chance to play his space goats was really cool, and I told myself from the beginning that I did not care who won, this was going to be a great game.

His list is up on Bols, but was something like this:
Wolf Lord, Saga of the wolfkin PF thunderwolf
Wolf Lord, Saga of the bear, PF thunderwolf
Wold Lord, Saga of the warrior born, Forst blade thunderwolf
3 squads of grey hunter in rhino with mark of the wolfen and double melta
longfangs with missel launchers heavy bolters
langfangs with lascannons heavy bolters
20 fenresian wolves

The mission was objectives. One player placed them, the other designated which was the alpha ogjective, which was worth more points.
I placed them in a lince across the center. Goatboy made the center point the alpha objective.

He went first. With all those missle launchers, I knew that was bad.
He deployed his longfangs in terrain, and kept his 3 rhinos back a bit.
He had all 3 wolf lords attached to the wolves in a mega doom squad off to the other side of his long fangs.

I deployed with my rhinos sheilding my walkers. In retrospect, I should have reversed this. Anyway,

He goes first and unloads on my rhinos, killing 2. He moves up the wolves slightly
My turn 1, I decide it is a good idea to run the exposed berzerkers forward, straight toward him. This was my biggest mistake, and my best idea. The one still alive rhino moves 12 inches around terrain and towards his wolf lords. all 3 battlecannons fire at the longfangs and do nothing.

His turn 2, he has pretty bad shooting, but moves up the huge wolf squads. 20 wolves and lord attack one squad, and two lords and their accompanying wolves attach the other squad. Whoops, I thought. He kills the squads entirely, and suddenly I have one scoring unit in a 3 objective game. He consolidates toward me.

My turn 2 was a make or break turn. My plan was either going to work, or I was going to get tabled very soon. It turned out to be a mixture of both, but on with the report.
My berzerkers hopped out of the rhino and moved into position to assault the 20 wolves and Lord. A dreadnought make it through difficult terrain and past a dangerous terrain test to help support. Everything else, that means, 2 princes, a greater daemon, 3 defilers and 2 dreads assalut the wolf lords. I kill the 2 wolf lords, and in the center of the board, I kill so many wolves, that I win combat and nearly kill the squad and other wolf lord.

Turn 3
he is stuck in combat in the center of the board, and due to that cover and some other stuff, he has pretty bad shooting. In assault, my dreadnought punches out the outer wolf lord.

my turn 3, I move and run and smoke everything forward. One surviving berzerker, runs away and gets back into his immobilized rhino. My defilers punch out a rhino, and one of my dreads smokes, while the other fire frenzies, which was very bad, and puts a wound my my greater daemon. I try and assault the long fangs with a daemon prince, and can't roll above a 4 on three dice.

His turn 4 is the game changer. It was looking like I was going to overwhelm him, but his shooting was simply out of control. In his turn 4 he killed 3 defilers, immobilized 2 dreadnought, and killed a Greater daemon and a daemon prince. It was a perfect turn, and suddenly I had 3 models left on the table. An immoblized rhino, one berzerker inside, and a Daemon prince. the dreads might have been immobile earlier, but it was still a crazy good turn for him.

My turn 4, I move up and assault a squad with a daemon prince. He only kills a couple, and counter attack puts 3 wounds on him. bummer.

His turn 5 it looks like I have lost. However, his first round of shooting wrecks my rhino, and the 1 berzerkers disembarks out of line of sight. My DP is finished off by grey hunters.

My turn 5 I suddenly realize that I have a chance. I move my last berzerker onto the objective, and Goatboy realizes that he is out of position, and I hold one objective, and he holds none. If the game ends on turn 5, I win, one objective to none. If the game keeps going, goatboy will kill the last berzerker, and get the massacre. I roll for it, and roll a 4. Goatboy gets the massacre.

Despite getting tabled, it was actually a very close game, and came down to several crucial roles in turn 3 and 4. Goatboy was a great opponent and I learned a lot from playing him.

Goatboy went on to win the tournament, and I came in 31st place. Which, considering getting 0 points in round 3, is pretty good.

Championships was a lot of fun, and it showed me that you can really do well with a Monster mash list if you know what you are doing.

Thanks for reading, and I look forward to attending next year.

Pictures from throughout the day:

1st or 31st.......lol seems like such a shitty deal. I saw a pic of your army somewhere else actually, it looks well painted from far back in the pics. Its actually a cool army concept. lash princes would surely helped you against goatboy since you coulda double lashed his long fangs and plated them to death.

anyways, good job

Good job, looks like a great time, cool army.

Thanks for the reports. One of the things I like to see is folks taking a unique army and figuring out it's strengths and weaknesses and working with what you've got.

Great reports all around.

Congrats on some well-fought battles. If it wasn't for turn 4 on the last game, who knows....maybe you might've been the champion. Anyways 31st is not bad considering there was 150+ players and you were just gaming casually.

It would be interesting to see this list against a 6 ironclad marine list, but I think the Daemon Princes would give you the upper hand.

Just imagine what you could have done if you had lash.....come.....come to the lures of Slaanesh....don't worry we don't care that you cheated on us with brother Khorne....

That aside though, the walker list is risky. You'll sometimes be invincible [tyranid list] and others, people just roll 5's and 6's on that damn vehicle damage table [space wolves]. It's something that can pretty much happen at any time, from anything S6 and up. Watch out for that.

Dude, congrats on taking a ballsy list and doing pretty well with it.

Spellbound wrote:Just imagine what you could have done if you had lash.....come.....come to the lures of Slaanesh....don't worry we don't care that you cheated on us with brother Khorne....

That aside though, the walker list is risky. You'll sometimes be invincible [tyranid list] and others, people just roll 5's and 6's on that damn vehicle damage table [space wolves]. It's something that can pretty much happen at any time, from anything S6 and up. Watch out for that.

I know its a risky list. Thats why I don't think its very competitive. There are several builds that can simply auto win against this army. Its a gamble, but always makes for fun games. If the dreadnoughts behave, it does well, if they don't, then its an uphill battle.
My Game with goatboy and just in general has shown me that this list would be MUCH stronger if I dropped the greater daemon and made the princes lash princes. But, I would have a hard time abandoning my all khorne theme...But its worth testing, because double lash could have made the difference against goatboy, and REALLY would have helped me in my gladiator games. But still, I have a feeling that if I break theme, then my blessing of the blood god will go away, and I won't be able to roll above a 2. But, we will see.

Yeah, good on ya for taking a risky and interesting army to the event. You made a nice showing with it too.

- Blackbone

Have you versused any other Tyranid Army with your list?

I am asking out of curiosity... At the moment I am building up a Chaos Battleforce to challenge my best friend who has been playing Tyranids for more than a decade. The army builds I used so far underperformed, sometimes due to little strategical knowledge sometimes because he - not knowingly - cheated on me, because he is new to the 5th ed Rulebook, too...

I am looking for an answer...

Thanks

I "eye-balled" the list @ 1850 points, is that accurate? You never mentioned the points size in your post.

EDIT: I looked up the Adepticon Rulebook, it IS 1850, haha. I eye-balled your list at 1855 and honestly guessed the points cost on 90% of your list. That's a scary army for 1850 points, not sure how i'd deal with that myself.

wixxer wrote:Have you versused any other Tyranid Army with your list?

I am asking out of curiosity... At the moment I am building up a Chaos Battleforce to challenge my best friend who has been playing Tyranids for more than a decade. The army builds I used so far underperformed, sometimes due to little strategical knowledge sometimes because he - not knowingly - cheated on me, because he is new to the 5th ed Rulebook, too...

I am looking for an answer...

Thanks

I have fought tyranids several times with this kind of list and won very soundly every time. In my experience, this type of list is very hard for Tyrandis to deal with.

I "eye-balled" the list @ 1850 points, is that accurate? You never mentioned the points size in your post.

EDIT: I looked up the Adepticon Rulebook, it IS 1850, haha. I eye-balled your list at 1855 and honestly guessed the points cost on 90% of your list. That's a scary army for 1850 points, not sure how i'd deal with that myself.

I did not mention the points because the championships were an 1850 tournament. This list is 1846. The idea is target saturation. Its far from unstoppable, but it has proved itself time and time again to be a solid list.

extrenm(54) wrote:

wixxer wrote:Have you versused any other Tyranid Army with your list?

I am asking out of curiosity... At the moment I am building up a Chaos Battleforce to challenge my best friend who has been playing Tyranids for more than a decade. The army builds I used so far underperformed, sometimes due to little strategical knowledge sometimes because he - not knowingly - cheated on me, because he is new to the 5th ed Rulebook, too...

I am looking for an answer...

Thanks

I have fought tyranids several times with this kind of list and won very soundly every time. In my experience, this type of list is very hard for Tyrandis to deal with.

Unless, of course, they're playing nidzilla. Honestly, 3 trygons with furious charge backed by a cc-tyrant and some hive guards will take this army apart. It is a rock army that can be picked apart by a paper army (melta-spam or nidzilla). It does look pretty fun to play against though.

Man how would this list beat nids? I keep playing against nids and the t6 6w monstrous creatures just kill me every time.

Well that was a badass game

jy2 wrote:

extrenm(54) wrote:

wixxer wrote:Have you versused any other Tyranid Army with your list?

I am asking out of curiosity... At the moment I am building up a Chaos Battleforce to challenge my best friend who has been playing Tyranids for more than a decade. The army builds I used so far underperformed, sometimes due to little strategical knowledge sometimes because he - not knowingly - cheated on me, because he is new to the 5th ed Rulebook, too...

I am looking for an answer...

Thanks

I have fought tyranids several times with this kind of list and won very soundly every time. In my experience, this type of list is very hard for Tyrandis to deal with.

Unless, of course, they're playing nidzilla. Honestly, 3 trygons with furious charge backed by a cc-tyrant and some hive guards will take this army apart. It is a rock army that can be picked apart by a paper army (melta-spam or nidzilla). It does look pretty fun to play against though.

Well, actually, several of my games have been against Nidzilla.While you are right that it is a tough match up, it is definitely not an auto-loss. The berzerkers, dreadnoughts and 3 daemon MCs all have what it takes to knock out big tyranid threats, you just have to set it up correctly.

GREAT REPORTS! KHORNEZILLA 4-EVA!

Speaking of bad matchups, a fully mechanized army, and high Initiative MC's are about the worst thing this army can face. Defilers' pitiful WS3 and I3 makes them easy fodder for other MC's or troops with decent WS and high strength attacks.

Polonius' Mech IG gave me quite a headache (read: raped the crap out of me) and Reecius' foot eldar included 3 Wraithlords and an Avatar that wrecked havoc with my walkers. For this reason alone, the two DP's and the GD are essential, as they are heavy hitters that can't be silenced with one shot. Part of learning the in's and out's of this list is finding out what you can charge with what. Dreads/Defilers work well against swarms of troops that would take out a DP/GD with weight of attacks, while DP/GD's are good for walking out in front and absorbing lascannon/melta shots that would take out your walkers in one hit. They also provide cover! Bonus! Also, any time you can tag-team something, (IE, two dreads or a dread and defiler, or dread/GD, etc) you stand a much better chance of wiping out problematic foes.

The berzerkers are their to claim objectives and help put out wounds while your big guys anchor the combat, or to break your big guys out of said large combats.

And damn, I wish I would have seen your army at Adepticon. I love Khorne, I love Monster Mash! Although I use lash for extra effectiveness, reading your reports makes me want to go back to pure Khorne. I always feel bad (the fluff nazi in me) running the lash in this list, even if it is more effective.

whitedragon wrote:GREAT REPORTS! KHORNEZILLA 4-EVA!

Speaking of bad matchups, a fully mechanized army, and high Initiative MC's are about the worst thing this army can face. Defilers' pitiful WS3 and I3 makes them easy fodder for other MC's or troops with decent WS and high strength attacks.

Polonius' Mech IG gave me quite a headache (read: raped the crap out of me) and Reecius' foot eldar included 3 Wraithlords and an Avatar that wrecked havoc with my walkers. For this reason alone, the two DP's and the GD are essential, as they are heavy hitters that can't be silenced with one shot. Part of learning the in's and out's of this list is finding out what you can charge with what. Dreads/Defilers work well against swarms of troops that would take out a DP/GD with weight of attacks, while DP/GD's are good for walking out in front and absorbing lascannon/melta shots that would take out your walkers in one hit. They also provide cover! Bonus! Also, any time you can tag-team something, (IE, two dreads or a dread and defiler, or dread/GD, etc) you stand a much better chance of wiping out problematic foes.

The berzerkers are their to claim objectives and help put out wounds while your big guys anchor the combat, or to break your big guys out of said large combats.

And damn, I wish I would have seen your army at Adepticon. I love Khorne, I love Monster Mash! Although I use lash for extra effectiveness, reading your reports makes me want to go back to pure Khorne. I always feel bad (the fluff nazi in me) running the lash in this list, even if it is more effective.

You just explained almost exactly how I play this list. We think alike it seems.

extrenm(54) wrote:
You just explained almost exactly how I play this list. We think alike it seems.

What can I say, I like's me some Khornezilla.

Those defilers are really shiny. Some matte finishe would make them look great!

The future is here: CODEX: DEFILER KINGDOMS

Gotta go change my pants after seeing all those dreads & defilers in action ...

Nice work, 'grats on the games and cheers for the report

- Salvage

I am extrealmly happy to see a Khorne list do so well, I used to have a huge khonre army, and if I was to do it again it would be allot like yours. great read, looked like a blast

Another thing that sucks about that last game is the COMPLETE lack of vehicle cover in the center of the board. Ouch!

Ew,slaanesh. How dare you post on a khornate thread?