Space Marines or Chaos Space Marines?

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**xblackdog**

Do you like SM or CSM?

**cormz**

Go space marines!!! Chaos space marines are jack*****

**Xca|iber**

In terms of looks, they look about the same. BUT, I love spikes a bit more than I like robes, and horns really just seal the deal for me. CSM.

Though I'm trying to work up an excuse to make some robed CSM, a la Night Lords/variant, but that's not my army style and I don't have any unit in my list special enough to warrant robes.

**Nightwatch**

Orkmarines!
With rules as loyalists, obviously. Because it makes so much more sense!

**Fafnir**

Short of the Nightlords, I very much dislike the appearance of CSM. I'm not a fan of spikey bits.

**darkkt**

Chaos all the way!

And if your looking for an excuse for robed CSM - your Chosen need some extra love to distinquish them from the rest of the army!

i.e. http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/49473-Alpha%20Legion%2C%20Alpha%20Legion%20Chosen%20Melta.html

**SgtSixkilla**

Other.

I like'em both, conceptually. Though for completely opposite reasons.

**tobi-nid-guy**

Well i have both codexes(codexi) and play both with the same models I just proxy my Sm with spiky bits and such.

**Grambo**

For the dark gods!

**oadie**

Loyalists FTW. You can make them happy and daring and shiny or dark and gritty - whatever you want - but with Chaos, you're stuck being the guys that couldn't find rides to the Immortal concert (some of whom apparently found big funny hats). Sure, they're all sorts of badass in some of the fluff, but on the table, they're just piles of bent spikes and chunky chains. I'm sure you could make them look great, but most of the paintjobs I see are not only generic (same could be said for a few prominent SM chapters), they're boring. Not to mention the greater flexibility of SM lists. And the better product support.

Save your fingers, save your dignity - avoid the spikes, embrace the Emprah.

**insaniak**

Not sure what this has to do with modelling. Moving to 40K discussions.

**Noisy_Marine**

Chaos all the way!

**candy.man**

I’ve been a fan of the flexibility and look and the look feel of Chaos for a while now. But it terms of which plays better on the table or has better rules, Loyalists are superior.

**Zed**

Horns. Spikes. Dark Gods. Chaos Space Marines all the way.

**SirRouga**

How about Renegade Space Marines? Marines that go against the imperium (or just don't care about them) but haven't fallen to chaos?

**TheTrueProtoman**

Really I find the horns dumb, I dunno how they can function when they can hardly turn their heads, and so many spikes they are just going to stab themselves when they fire.

**Noisy_Marine**

SirRouga wrote:How about Renegade Space Marines? Marines that go against the imperium (or just don't care about them) but haven't fallen to chaos?

They would use the space marine codex. It's not like you turn renegade and instantly trade your storm bolters and assault cannons for combi-bolters and autocannons.

candy.man wrote:I’ve been a fan of the flexibility and look and the look feel of Chaos for a while now. But it terms of which plays better on the table or has better rules, Loyalists are superior.

Chaos troop choices are superior to loyalists IMO. That's worth something when 2 out of 3 games are objective based.

**H.B.M.C.**

I weep for this website...

**Sanctjud**

Other-DIY army = CSM, SM, SW, BA, whatever you feel like.

**TheDiffidentOne**

Xca|iber wrote:Though I'm trying to work up an excuse to make some robed CSM, a la Night Lords/variant, but that's not my army style and I don't have any unit in my list special enough to warrant robes.

You could always have some Fallen alongside whatever you are doing. You just have to be careful because as soon as you have some Fallen in your force, the Deathwing is going to start crashing your parties.

**Ed_Bodger**

CSM - Lost once big time

Abadannon - To loose once is forgiveable to loose twice is careless to loose thirteen times just shows you are s***.

On a serious note I have just read Soul Hunter and really really enjoyed it. If I could make a list that didn't suck and included no deamon princes or any other form of deamon, no nurgle, and relatively few things other than standard Astartes I might think about it.

**Sanctjud**

@Ed_Bodger:
Note: though he 'lost' that many times, each time he did accomplish a specific goal...he might have lost the battles, but he's always thinking about the war...

**Praxiss**

CSm, all the way.

**Ed_Bodger**

Sanctjud wrote:@Ed_Bodger:
Note: though he 'lost' that many times, each time he did accomplish a specific goal...he might have lost the battles, but he's always thinking about the war...

However his ultimate goal is the destruction of the Imperium and he has not got near to achieving this yet. The Cadian gate is as strong as ever and every crusade he looses more members of the Black Legion. If you read Soul Hunter you see that some other Legions regard him and his ambitions as a bit of a joke and a foregone conclusion.

**Sanctjud**

Plans within plans

.
He's doing something with collecting the Blackstone Fortresses...at least that's the last thing I heard of with respect to him failing to win the battle but attaining his goals with each crusade.

/Shrug.

**EmpBobo**

Abby is a loser, heck he got his flagship planetkiller crippled by a couple of cobra escorts.

**Noisy_Marine**

Ed_Bodger wrote:CSM - Lost once big time

Abadannon - To loose once is forgiveable to loose twice is careless to loose thirteen times just shows you are s***.

On a serious note I have just read Soul Hunter and really really enjoyed it. If I could make a list that didn't suck and included no deamon princes or any other form of deamon, no nurgle, and relatively few things other than standard Astartes I might think about it.

Sounds like you want to play standard space marines to me.

And yes Abby is a big loser.

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H.B.M.C. wrote:I weep for this website...

Don't cry dancing banana!

**Shadowbrand**

FOR THE GLORY OF CHAOS!!!!

Although a good few of the loyalist chapters are pretty sweet.

Why don't you make a Night Lords army with the loyalist army book? Since the current chaos dex has no rules for them. So you have Chaos and Loyalists! well technically.

Be sure to have lots of jump troopers and bikers, they like it fast.

**xblackdog**

insaniak wrote:Not sure what this has to do with modelling. Moving to 40K discussions.

Ya thanks it was about the storm ravens but then i noticed someone else posted the same thing right before me so i edited it to a poll...