Author |
Message |
|
|
|
Advert
|
Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
- No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
- Times and dates in your local timezone.
- Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
- Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
- Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now. |
|
|
2024/11/07 21:48:14
Subject: [Necromunda] News & Rumors. Silberlant Sevos p.98
|
|
Regular Dakkanaut
|
Yeah, that is awfully convenient.
Apparently 'LOL maintenance' in general and especially considering the main power supply is a geothermal shaft. ''Somebody' will fix it...'
Also with lost zones not uncommonly having archeotech, you would think the Underhive and Sump would be crawling with Tech-priests just looking at things and mapping conduits.
|
DA70+S++G++M(GD)B+++I++++Pw40k96-D+++A++/mWD218R+++T(M)DM++ |
|
|
|
2024/11/07 23:23:08
Subject: [Necromunda] News & Rumors. Silberlant Sevos p.98
|
|
Leader of the Sept
|
But that’s what the Guilders are for. Have you any idea how hard it is to get sump dregs out of a good robe?
|
Please excuse any spelling errors. I use a tablet frequently and software keyboards are a pain!
Terranwing - w3;d1;l1
51st Dunedinw2;d0;l0
Cadre Coronal Afterglow w1;d0;l0 |
|
|
|
2024/11/08 08:11:02
Subject: [Necromunda] News & Rumors. Silberlant Sevos p.98
|
|
Longtime Dakkanaut
|
Basically it comes down to 'the story works because everyone has an idiot ball'.
Forge the Narrative. Just don't think about the narrative.
|
|
|
|
2024/11/08 08:25:13
Subject: [Necromunda] News & Rumors. Silberlant Sevos p.98
|
|
Decrepit Dakkanaut
UK
|
I mean that's one take on things. The other is that the Imperium is VAST. Necromunda is just 1 Hive City. It's not even unique on the world its based, let alone with the Imperium. The Gang within are just one of many active gangs within the city and Van Saar are not superior to the other gangs by any vast margin. They don't stand out.
Why would the Mechanicus go looking for anything grand in the mess that is the underhive? It's not the only underhive full of potential ancient lost tech. Chances are those who are keen to hunt for such might have hives that are even more interesting elsewhere; or they are more focused on the warzones where things are at risk of being lost to forces outside the Imperium. Necromunda is stable in the sense that its not on a front line of invasion. It's not going anywhere.
Further don't forget that those in power over Necromunda might well have their own reasons to not encourage the Mechanicus snooping around.
It's less that characters are idiots and more that they are simply unaware of things happening. We, the audience, are way more aware because its the focal point of lore and stories that we read.
It's the same as how the average fan has more concept of chaos, demons and xenos than the average Imperial Citizen. It's why we can go "ooh that's a cult forming" whilst those in the setting don't see it.
|
|
|
|
|
2024/11/08 08:36:05
Subject: [Necromunda] News & Rumors. Silberlant Sevos p.98
|
|
Longtime Dakkanaut
|
I wonder how much time the Mechanicum wastes following up on rumors of STCs that originated from gangers trying to make a quick credit, or passing along bar tales, or think that some piece of tech that is different from what they are used to. Or ended up being smuggled xenos tech.
|
|
|
|
2024/11/08 09:37:59
Subject: [Necromunda] News & Rumors. Silberlant Sevos p.98
|
|
Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
|
It probably helps that outside of the Mechanicum, and the similarly “hush hush only seniors get the real toys” organised House Van Saar, few people on Necromunda will even know what an STC is, let alone that Van Saar have one.
Consider the champion recycling effort that is the entire planet, and the general robust longevity of Imperial Tech.
The machines used in the day to day hustle and bustle of Hive life will be pretty ancient, having been maintained, refurbished and even repurposed over centuries, if not millennia.
And with each House having some capacity to make its own weapons, there’s already a wide range of looks and effectiveness in the guns seen and used.
Among all that? Van Saar tech is Just Another Variant, to all intents and purposes. Sure they’re typically more efficient and/or powerful, but you already know not all Lasguns etc are the same. And those Van Saar are certainly good with tech.
Who cares how? All you know is they’re super defensive about how they know what they know, and anyone sent sneaking about to find out just isn’t seen again. But that too is far from uncommon in the Hive (let alone the Underhive)
Now the upper echelons will almost certainly know. But, they’ll also know Van Saar must’ve had it for a long, long time. And nobody else has ratted them out. Probably because it helps Necromunda do The One Thing That Really Matters - meet the tithe, on time, every time.
So as well as potentially impacting Tithe production, ratting them out now is going to lead to questions as to why, given it was clearly an open secret, nobody informed the Mechanicum before.
That’s disloyalty. That’s Tech Heresy. You could lose your head for that - or worse, cost your family the Governorship or other positions etc.
|
|
|
|
|
2024/11/08 09:54:42
Subject: [Necromunda] News & Rumors. Silberlant Sevos p.98
|
|
Decrepit Dakkanaut
UK
|
Also as the STC is "part of the hive" right now there's every chance the Mechanicus would just fly in and demand the whole hive city. It's built into the city and there's tech from it all over the place; so why sift, just take the entire city.
You can't be high lord if your entire hive is now owned by the mechanicus; who are likely busy tearing the place apart screw by screw.
Now you could argue that you'd get a huge kickback from the Mechanicus, but there's always the chance that they blame you and do terrible things to you for your family hiding the info for so long. There's also dynastic aspects too. A lot of the nobility works on dynasty - ergo your Hive City. Losing it/selling it/giving it away to the Mechanicus would go against all of that.
|
|
|
|
|
2024/11/08 10:40:33
Subject: [Necromunda] News & Rumors. Silberlant Sevos p.98
|
|
Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
|
Hive City?
Hive World. Got to fortify and purify the whole thing when there’s a working STC in play.
|
|
|
|
|
2024/11/08 12:02:32
Subject: [Necromunda] News & Rumors. Silberlant Sevos p.98
|
|
Ancient Space Wolves Venerable Dreadnought
|
That’s the other thing; the Helmawrs will know what would happen if the Adeptus Mechanicus gets the idea that there’s a genuine working STC down there somewhere and will be doing everything they can to prevent that because apart from anything else it means the end of their power.
Also we know they’re already keeping the much more dangerous (both to the world and the greater imperium) secret of the psyker drug under wraps, explicitly by several acts of misdirection (“finding” and reporting small deposits while keeping the really big motherlodes on an entirely separate network of ghost cities) and outright denial.
|
"Three months? I'm going to go crazy …and I'm taking you with me!"
— Vala Mal Doran |
|
|
|
2024/11/08 12:10:12
Subject: [Necromunda] News & Rumors. Silberlant Sevos p.98
|
|
Calculating Commissar
|
I've made a thread for the STC lore discussion in the background subforum so we can keep this one on topic:
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/815042.page#11708068
|
ChargerIIC wrote:If algae farm paste with a little bit of your grandfather in it isn't Grimdark I don't know what is. |
|
|
|
2024/11/10 23:57:19
Subject: Re:[Necromunda] News & Rumors. Silberlant Sevos p.98
|
|
Fixture of Dakka
|
According to Warcom this week will be focusing on Necromunda. It'll be interesting to see what that's all about.
|
Casual gaming, mostly solo-coop these days.
|
|
|
|
2024/11/11 00:34:04
Subject: [Necromunda] News & Rumors. Silberlant Sevos p.98
|
|
Fixture of Dakka
|
Lead-in articles for the Squat book, maybe?
Or maybe they're setting up for another meta-plot book?
Something tells me it will not be a Delaque vehicle, though...
|
2021-4 Plog - Here we go again... - my fifth attempt at a Dakka PLOG
My Pile of Potential - updates ongoing...
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote:This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote:You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling. - No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... |
|
|
|
2024/11/11 12:33:12
Subject: [Necromunda] News & Rumors. Silberlant Sevos p.98
|
|
Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
|
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2024/11/11 12:33:27
|
|
|
|
2024/11/11 12:44:01
Subject: [Necromunda] News & Rumors. Silberlant Sevos p.98
|
|
Decrepit Dakkanaut
UK
|
Hungry worm needs feeding!
|
|
|
|
|
2024/11/11 12:45:36
Subject: Re:[Necromunda] News & Rumors. Silberlant Sevos p.98
|
|
Crafty Bray Shaman
Anor Londo
|
Why do I feel like we have seen this model already?
Maybe I'm thinking of a conversion that I saw
Edit: I'm a fan, regardless
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2024/11/11 12:46:18
|
|
|
|
2024/11/11 12:47:43
Subject: [Necromunda] News & Rumors. Silberlant Sevos p.98
|
|
Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
|
The Delaque specialist kit has much smaller technoworm things?
Also, slight shades of Cryz from WarmaHordes.
|
|
|
|
|
2024/11/11 12:50:15
Subject: [Necromunda] News & Rumors. Silberlant Sevos p.98
|
|
Decrepit Dakkanaut
UK
|
That and Delaque are clearly not the Navigators Guild dealing with worms that spread spices across the sands - not at all - nope!
But yeah chances are there's a few other models out there of a "devouring worm" and "half machine half organic" that its easy to think its something you've seen before.
The concept is certainly out there; but this is a totally new worm
|
|
|
|
|
2024/11/11 14:27:29
Subject: Re:[Necromunda] News & Rumors. Silberlant Sevos p.98
|
|
Using Object Source Lighting
|
... and its something anyone with a bunch of bits can sculpt themselves. Saving a load of money.
|
|
|
|
|
2024/11/11 14:32:14
Subject: Re:[Necromunda] News & Rumors. Silberlant Sevos p.98
|
|
Fixture of Dakka
|
Its a nice model - the gloved hand is a nice touch! - but its just another "every other monday" release for Necromunda. Nothing wrong with that but not seeing how this puts "Necromunda in focus".
|
Casual gaming, mostly solo-coop these days.
|
|
|
|
2024/11/11 15:09:04
Subject: [Necromunda] News & Rumors. Silberlant Sevos p.98
|
|
Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
|
Dude.
It’s only Monday.
|
|
|
|
|
2024/11/11 15:25:13
Subject: Re:[Necromunda] News & Rumors. Silberlant Sevos p.98
|
|
Fixture of Dakka
|
I know, its just that last week was so quiet on Warcom...
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2024/11/11 15:25:29
Casual gaming, mostly solo-coop these days.
|
|
|
|
2024/11/11 16:00:25
Subject: Re:[Necromunda] News & Rumors. Silberlant Sevos p.98
|
|
Aspirant Tech-Adept
|
So... a semi-intelligent, huge cyber-lamprey? Why not.
|
|
|
|
2024/11/11 18:05:17
Subject: Re:[Necromunda] News & Rumors. Silberlant Sevos p.98
|
|
Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
|
Aww, given that this is 40k, I was hoping for maybe a more cherub-y face, similar to the cover of 2000ad prog 2200. A general wyrmcoil engine type thing isn't too impressive.
|
|
|
|
2024/11/11 22:06:43
Subject: [Necromunda] News & Rumors. Silberlant Sevos p.98
|
|
[DCM]
.. .-.. .-.. ..- -- .. -. .- - ..
|
I really like this model. There is a dynamism in its position, like a rearing snake. The eye lens camera to the left of its face to give us a perspective that it is an organism, despite being part mechanical, but by having one making it off putting to our symmetrical sensibilities.
The use of belts and straps to hold some of the armour in place.
The style of the teeth as a series of spinning burs is excellent.
*Tips Fedora* Great work, whoever sculpted this.
Shame it will be resin....
|
This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2024/11/11 22:07:33
2024: Games Played:6/Models Bought:354/Sold:519/Painted: 190
2023: Games Played:0/Models Bought:287/Sold:0/Painted: 203
2020-2022: Games Played:42/Models Bought:1271/Sold:631/Painted:442
2016-19: Games Played:369/Models Bought:772/Sold:378/ Painted:268
2012-15: Games Played:412/Models Bought: 1163/Sold:730/Painted:436 |
|
|
|
2024/11/11 22:17:43
Subject: [Necromunda] News & Rumors. Silberlant Sevos p.98
|
|
Fixture of Dakka
|
...the superior material for low-volume character models like this, or Blood Bowl Star Players, or Legion-specific characters?
|
2021-4 Plog - Here we go again... - my fifth attempt at a Dakka PLOG
My Pile of Potential - updates ongoing...
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote:This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote:You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling. - No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... |
|
|
|
2024/11/11 23:22:52
Subject: [Necromunda] News & Rumors. Silberlant Sevos p.98
|
|
[DCM]
.. .-.. .-.. ..- -- .. -. .- - ..
|
Dysartes wrote:
...the superior material for low-volume character models like this, or Blood Bowl Star Players, or Legion-specific characters?
Shame about the cost, being resin.
If bought from GW/ FW.
|
2024: Games Played:6/Models Bought:354/Sold:519/Painted: 190
2023: Games Played:0/Models Bought:287/Sold:0/Painted: 203
2020-2022: Games Played:42/Models Bought:1271/Sold:631/Painted:442
2016-19: Games Played:369/Models Bought:772/Sold:378/ Painted:268
2012-15: Games Played:412/Models Bought: 1163/Sold:730/Painted:436 |
|
|
|
2024/11/12 09:35:59
Subject: [Necromunda] News & Rumors. Silberlant Sevos p.98
|
|
Foxy Wildborne
|
Well it beats physically shipping 3d prints, at least.
|
Posters on ignore list: 36
40k Potica Edition - 40k patch with reactions, suppression and all that good stuff. Feedback thread here.
Gangs of Nu Ork - Necromunda / Gorkamorka expansion supporting all faction. Feedback thread here. |
|
|
|
2024/11/12 09:52:31
Subject: Re:[Necromunda] News & Rumors. Silberlant Sevos p.98
|
|
Regular Dakkanaut
|
Another Dramatis Persona to check off the list. I know people dislike the singular models that have to keep us entertained for a monday, but I just love looking back upon my big list of missing Necromunda miniatures and fill it in once again.
I was wondering when they would tackle this one. Out of all the dramatis personae, only the Araknotek Golem is as interesting a sculpt as this one is.
|
|
|
|
2024/11/12 09:56:43
Subject: Re:[Necromunda] News & Rumors. Silberlant Sevos p.98
|
|
Rampaging Reaver Titan Princeps
|
Segersgia wrote:Another Dramatis Persona to check off the list. I know people dislike the singular models that have to keep us entertained for a monday, but I just love looking back upon my big list of missing Necromunda miniatures and fill it in once again.
I was wondering when they would tackle this one. Out of all the dramatis personae, only the Araknotek Golem is as interesting a sculpt as this one is.
Any chnace you could repost that list to see where we are with the missing models?
|
|
|
|
2024/11/12 17:08:24
Subject: Re:[Necromunda] News & Rumors. Silberlant Sevos p.98
|
|
Regular Dakkanaut
|
zedmeister wrote: Segersgia wrote:Another Dramatis Persona to check off the list. I know people dislike the singular models that have to keep us entertained for a monday, but I just love looking back upon my big list of missing Necromunda miniatures and fill it in once again.
I was wondering when they would tackle this one. Out of all the dramatis personae, only the Araknotek Golem is as interesting a sculpt as this one is.
Any chnace you could repost that list to see where we are with the missing models?
This is a slight copy of a post I did previously. This only includes what is missing though...
Hangers-on:
Brutes:
Exotic Beasts:
Guilds:
Criminal Alliances:
Nobel Houses:
Dramatis Personae:
It is still quite the list, but the studio hasn't abandoned the characters of the other books and gone through quite
I still find it weird that they chose to focus themselves on the Dramatis Personae instead of the Guilds & Noble Houses. We have also yet to see any Criminal Alliances in model form.
I wonder when we might see the Prophet of the Redemption. He is the only character from the Aranthian Succession books not to get a model, and I believe he would even be a well sought-after miniature for conversions.
Let me know if I missed anything.
|
|
|
|
|