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 cygnnus wrote:
 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Any ideas about this week's Friday e-mail sneak peek? Looks... heavy.


I’m seeing a nice heavy stone-throwing crossbow for the trolls in there! Might prefer a wicked barbed bolt, but I’ll take it. Woot!!


I dunno, that hand doesn't look awfully Trolly to me

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Personally, I would very much like a skeleton kit. There are a good amount of different multi-part skeletons on the market so it isn't crucial but a box that will cheaply give you 60 nude skeletons because they're all monopose and only include a shield option would be pretty much the definitive baseline skeleton box.



I hear you but Reaper might be better for this than WGA, they already have tons of plastic skeletons and other monsters in their bones lines and I think it would be great if they made some big boxes of 20 or 30 for big dungeon encounters or war games.

 
   
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The Bones line isn't great value for mass infantry, from what I've seen so far. Monsters and such, oh yes, but hard plastic boxes are better for more typical units.

Maybe if they at some point make their own big box of things but the 3-man and 5-man little sets are worse value. And it makes sense because they're made for ttrpg needs rather than wargame needs, you pay more per model but less overall since you need 5-10 instead of 20-40 goblins or skeletons or w/e


Goblins would also be a good choice for a fantasy army builder set.
   
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There's also these ancient orcs from EM4, originally Grendier

https://em4miniatures.com/collections/plastic-fantasy-miniatures

 
   
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 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
There's also these ancient orcs from EM4, originally Grendier

https://em4miniatures.com/collections/plastic-fantasy-miniatures


Long time no see those awesome Grenadier barbarians.

   
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 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
There's also these ancient orcs from EM4, originally Grendier

https://em4miniatures.com/collections/plastic-fantasy-miniatures


Those Orcs scream HeroQuest to me; it must be the basing.


 
   
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 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
There's also these ancient orcs from EM4, originally Grendier

https://em4miniatures.com/collections/plastic-fantasy-miniatures
The problem with those old Grenadier plastics is that there is a large ingate(?) on the back of the figure. Why they did not place it at the bottom with the integral base where it could be easily cut off and remain hidden is beyond me.

As for plastic skellies, the market does not need yet another. Now if I had my preference, both plastic zombies and skellies would come in a kit with multiple "historical" options. Thus Greek, Roman, Late Medieval, etcetera. If made by a manufacturer with a well-established fantasy world (like the WHFB once was) the options could be from that world instead. Basically, my idea of an undead army is one without an uniform look as the dead are from different time periods, and there would be civilians included in that army. [I did back the Fireforge Forgotten Dead KS for that reason.]

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New Range: Warring States! If this project comes to fruition, it will be a great boon. There are no hard plastic figures for this period in the market, and IINM, no hard plastic kits for ancient or medieval Chinese at all. There might be 1/72 soft plastic ones, but there's no point in painting that type of plastic.

New ETA for Cannon Fodder, Goblins, and French Infantry 1916-1940: 10/05/21

I've so many bits waiting for the Cannon Fodder.


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I swear if we get Warring States before the Boxers.

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 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
I swear if we get Warring States before the Boxers.


As long as they are both coming out soonish, I’m happy.

   
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 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
I swear if we get Warring States before the Boxers.


As long as they are both coming out soonish, I’m happy.


Don't forget you can periodically check the release schedule for updates - https://wargamesatlantic.com/pages/release-schedule

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When are the warring states? In history I mean.

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 lord_blackfang wrote:
When are the warring states? In history I mean.


475-221 BC
   
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 Ancestral Hamster wrote:
New Range: Warring States! If this project comes to fruition, it will be a great boon. There are no hard plastic figures for this period in the market, and IINM, no hard plastic kits for ancient or medieval Chinese at all. There might be 1/72 soft plastic ones, but there's no point in painting that type of plastic.

New ETA for Cannon Fodder, Goblins, and French Infantry 1916-1940: 10/05/21

I've so many bits waiting for the Cannon Fodder.



That's pretty cool. When I made my Ghost Archipelago warband I really wanted to do a.. er.. this era Chinese crew, but couldn't find any models I liked except one. Maybe they will happen after all!

   
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 lord_blackfang wrote:
When are the warring states? In history I mean.


After the Zhou ‘dynasty’ (during which there were many independent states/vassals) but before the unification under Qin.

   
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 Albertorius wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
When are the warring states? In history I mean.


475-221 BC


or alternatively, whenever china breaks appart.


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 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
When are the warring states? In history I mean.


After the Zhou ‘dynasty’ (during which there were many independent states/vassals) but before the unification under Qin.
The Warring States period had the seven major states fighting for primacy. Towards the middle and end of the period the other states realized that Qin was the most powerful and the greatest threat and tried to band together, but Qin diplomacy managed to break the alliances made against them and so swallowed their rivals one by one, the last state surrendering peacefully since they realized resistance was foolish. The Qin dynasty is considered the start of an unified China, and the name China is derived from Qin. However, the Qin dynasty was short-lived, only 15 years, but it had set the tone for much of what was to follow in China's history.

The Han dynasty which overthrew the Qin (and gave its name to the majority populace of China, the Han people), lasted for about 400 years, dissolving into the Three Kingdoms period which is usually better known since a number of games have it as their setting.

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One nifty thing about those Warring States renders is the "dagger-axe" bits, which was an early Chinese polearm, and characteristic of the Warring States and the Spring and Autumn Period (Just prior to the Warring States Period and had such luminaries as Confucius and Sun Tzu).

As much as I want to see this project happen, I am trying to be "cautiously optimistic". WGA is running behind on the Aztecs, Conquistadors, Boxers, Spanish Napoleonic, and Gurkhas. [The Gurkhas were announced early in this thread, but have since gone dark.] Let's hope WGA can produce these kits.

Re: or alternatively, whenever china breaks apart. By that definition you can then apply the term to various interregums in various places and times, not just China!

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I would prefer Romance of the Three Kingdoms to Warring States.

Dynasty Warriors the skirmish game sounds awesome. All those poor foot soldiers!

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By the way, i wholy recommend checking out the video explaining the background and design of the set as well as the future range, it's a very interesting piece of content and i certainly wouldn't complain if we got something like it more often in the future.




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 Easy E wrote:
I would prefer Romance of the Three Kingdoms to Warring States.

Dynasty Warriors the skirmish game sounds awesome. All those poor foot soldiers!


TBH I wonder if tehre was some confusion on there end between the two.


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 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
By the way, i wholy recommend checking out the video explaining the background and design of the set as well as the future range, it's a very interesting piece of content and i certainly wouldn't complain if we got something like it more often in the future.
Yes, I liked that. Getting an explanation of the design considerations was interesting. Had not thought about such things before in regarding the creation process of historical kits.

I would prefer Romance of the Three Kingdoms to Warring States.

Dynasty Warriors the skirmish game sounds awesome. All those poor foot soldiers!
Not surprised. Thanks to Romance of the Three Kingdoms, the period has more depth or immediacy than the Warring States period. We have named personages, colorful incidents, generally speaking, more plot. It is sort of a Chinese Illiad. The Warring States lacks that: it only has just what the historians and archaeologists can extract from the written or material records.

On the other hand, if one wants tabletop games with the "big battalions", Warring States is it. Europe will not see armies of this size until the Napoleonic Wars ~2,000 years later (assuming the surviving written records are trustworthy, which may not be the case).

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chaos0xomega wrote:

TBH I wonder if tehre was some confusion on there end between the two.


you posted this _after_ that video was posted?


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 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
By the way, i wholy recommend checking out the video explaining the background and design of the set as well as the future range, it's a very interesting piece of content and i certainly wouldn't complain if we got something like it more often in the future.


This video is fantastic. I went from almost no knowledge about the subject to having somewhat of a grasp and being excited about it.

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So what has you all hyped up the most? ww2 Italians, Warring states Chinese, or the move to US manufacturing?

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Warring States Chinese. That’s something I have been waiting for in plastic for a long time.

The move in manufacturing is nice, but more relieving than exciting.

   
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 lord marcus wrote:
So what has you all hyped up the most? ww2 Italians, Warring states Chinese, or the move to US manufacturing?


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 lord marcus wrote:
So what has you all hyped up the most? ww2 Italians, Warring states Chinese, or the move to US manufacturing?


The fact that an unknown went from starting with two kits and a dream and now are on track to being the second highest volume producing manufacturer of plastic minis in the world!

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 judgedoug wrote:
chaos0xomega wrote:

TBH I wonder if tehre was some confusion on there end between the two.


you posted this _after_ that video was posted?


I browse and post while I'm at work. That means I open a bunch of tabs at the start of my workday and work through them over the next few hours when the boss man ain't looking, only refreshing occasionally. So while I posted it after the video came up, I opened the thread beforehand and evidently didn't refresh before posting.

So what has you all hyped up the most? ww2 Italians, Warring states Chinese, or the move to US manufacturing?


The latter for me. If they are successful at it it will shatter the illusion that the US is too expensive to manufacture in for the miniatures and board gaming industry. More importantly, it will be a shot in the arm of the US-based toy manufacturing industry and help rebuild our domestic skill/talent/knowledge pool with regards to toy/miniature manufacturing. One of the big problems in trying to do plastic miniatures in the US today (which is a significant cost driver) is that there are very few people here who actually know how to do it - while we have plenty of plastics manufacturers across the country, not all plastics manufacturers are the same. Depending on the industries served, those manufacturers might utilize completely different tools, technologies, and processes to cut their molds and produce their castings, and knowledge in one area doesn't necessarily guarantee success in another. It might sound odd, conceptually speaking, but toys and miniatures remain one of the most niche, specialized, and challenging segments of the industry (at least as far as the US is concerned, despite the widespread availability of aviation, medical, industrial, etc. plastics manufacturers available), because all that talent and knowledge needed to achieve high-end results was transferred over to China and elsewhere decades ago and very few people here know the current best practices or cutting-edge processes needed to achieve results like what the upper-end of Chinese and Japanese manufacturers (and even Games Workshop) are capable of.


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 lord marcus wrote:
So what has you all hyped up the most? ww2 Italians, Warring states Chinese, or the move to US manufacturing?


The fact that an unknown went from starting with two kits and a dream and now are on track to being the second highest volume producing manufacturer of plastic minis in the world!


Is that an accurate statement? Based on what data? Are we assuming that GW is #1? Because thats not really accurate unless you are tailoring the definition of "plastic minis" to exclude scale model kits - companies like Tamiya and Bandai have GW beat by orders of magnitude.

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 lord marcus wrote:
So what has you all hyped up the most? ww2 Italians, Warring states Chinese, or the move to US manufacturing?


The Italians for me too, the warring states stuff is cool (and the video was really interesting) but not something i'm going to be collecting, and if you keep making the kits i'm not bothered where you're making them as i'm sure you'll keep up the quality wherever that is

 
   
 
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