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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/23 21:17:38
Subject: Tips for preventing being cheated and general how to tips with dealing with cheaters
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Furious Fire Dragon
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yeah my flgs has gw look inside codexes
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Homer: Your mother has this crazy idea that gambling is wrong. Even though they say it's okay in the Bible.
Lisa: Really? Where?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/23 21:27:59
Subject: Tips for preventing being cheated and general how to tips with dealing with cheaters
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Madrak Ironhide
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JD21290 wrote:EDITED BY MODQUISITION LEST MALF GET JEALOUS
cease fire folks and focus. No more images of men in dresses or FRAZZLED's nausea meter will go off.
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And it was probably blocked at work!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/23 21:31:37
Subject: Tips for preventing being cheated and general how to tips with dealing with cheaters
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Horrific Hive Tyrant
London (work) / Pompey (live, from time to time)
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EDITED BY MODQUISITION LEST MALF GET JEALOUS
cease fire folks and focus. No more images of men in dresses or FRAZZLED's nausea meter will go off.
bugger off frazz, its only a laugh and its hardly serious
and malf, look at me again like that and die
frazz, how come you get to hve a dig at someone and we cant?
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Suffused with the dying memories of Sanguinus, the warriors of the Death Company seek only one thing: death in battle fighting against the enemies of the Emperor. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/23 21:34:44
Subject: Tips for preventing being cheated and general how to tips with dealing with cheaters
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Because I have incriminating photos of Malf (doesn't everyone). Duh!  The sad thing is he likes it...
EDIT: The problem with reading Ender's Game is that, now not only do I get ticked, but get images of sentient bug creatures having it out with human combat troops inside a ship with marines getting their "guts spilled out" by bugger shots.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2008/10/23 21:37:26
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/23 21:42:09
Subject: Tips for preventing being cheated and general how to tips with dealing with cheaters
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Horrific Hive Tyrant
London (work) / Pompey (live, from time to time)
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doesent mean you have to edit my bloody posts
its only light hearted fun, without that, dakka would just be like warseer, with alot more people, and more interesting.
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Suffused with the dying memories of Sanguinus, the warriors of the Death Company seek only one thing: death in battle fighting against the enemies of the Emperor. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/23 21:43:57
Subject: Re:Tips for preventing being cheated and general how to tips with dealing with cheaters
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/23 21:45:34
Subject: Tips for preventing being cheated and general how to tips with dealing with cheaters
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Horrific Hive Tyrant
London (work) / Pompey (live, from time to time)
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havent go it yet, and if its a warning or anything against me im not gunna be happy
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Suffused with the dying memories of Sanguinus, the warriors of the Death Company seek only one thing: death in battle fighting against the enemies of the Emperor. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/23 21:48:51
Subject: Re:Tips for preventing being cheated and general how to tips with dealing with cheaters
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Its not. Did I mention
Strangely I think a Mod just reported..himself? You know this day has been weird when...
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/23 21:53:11
Subject: Tips for preventing being cheated and general how to tips with dealing with cheaters
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Horrific Hive Tyrant
London (work) / Pompey (live, from time to time)
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 shows the intelect of some mods
please say it was gonads, i need a good laugh at his expence (nothing malicious, he just keeps +'ing the things i - in survivors)
im glad its nothing bad, havent got a warning yet
and can i report you?
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Suffused with the dying memories of Sanguinus, the warriors of the Death Company seek only one thing: death in battle fighting against the enemies of the Emperor. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/23 21:59:21
Subject: Tips for preventing being cheated and general how to tips with dealing with cheaters
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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no you're not that lucky. Report me? Get in line...
Oh well back to real work.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2008/10/23 21:59:34
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/23 22:02:55
Subject: Tips for preventing being cheated and general how to tips with dealing with cheaters
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Horrific Hive Tyrant
London (work) / Pompey (live, from time to time)
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awwww :(
lego?, cent? maybe yak?
wonder what happens when i click alert mod
lol, whats real work like?
editing your own post lol
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Suffused with the dying memories of Sanguinus, the warriors of the Death Company seek only one thing: death in battle fighting against the enemies of the Emperor. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/24 06:22:50
Subject: Re:Tips for preventing being cheated and general how to tips with dealing with cheaters
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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theres no reason to go crazy if the action doesnt warrant it. just grow some balls and say hey man i dont think thats right. calmly ask them to show you the rules or re-measure the move. Now if they constantly continue cheating then you have every right to become a jerk. i still would say smashing there stuff is stupid. thats just low. thats like an angry g/f keying your car for no reason. if they do it a few times after you ask them to stop, then tell um to pack up and get out now.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/24 06:46:12
Subject: Re:Tips for preventing being cheated and general how to tips with dealing with cheaters
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Rampaging Furioso Blood Angel Dreadnought
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Well, yeah, I've been know to play a few games of Beerhammer 40 oz., GBF. I'm 33 years old, I can do that. I don't see what your point is at all, please elaborate.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/24 07:34:45
Subject: Tips for preventing being cheated and general how to tips with dealing with cheaters
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Frazzled wrote:The problem with reading Ender's Game is that, ...
Read Ender's Shadow once you're done. It's a great companion book.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/24 12:19:01
Subject: Tips for preventing being cheated and general how to tips with dealing with cheaters
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Good to know John. The 13 year old read EG at my request and was enamored. Of course he's young and thinks he's Ender in real life...
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/24 13:13:43
Subject: Tips for preventing being cheated and general how to tips with dealing with cheaters
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Fixture of Dakka
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frazzell is a control freak.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/24 15:14:19
Subject: Re:Tips for preventing being cheated and general how to tips with dealing with cheaters
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Rampaging Furioso Blood Angel Dreadnought
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prob. a good quality in a mod, to an extent. You seem alittle off, GBF, what's up?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/24 15:21:56
Subject: Tips for preventing being cheated and general how to tips with dealing with cheaters
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Horrific Hive Tyrant
London (work) / Pompey (live, from time to time)
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frazz is a good mod
and its a good quality to have if your a mod.
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Suffused with the dying memories of Sanguinus, the warriors of the Death Company seek only one thing: death in battle fighting against the enemies of the Emperor. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/24 15:49:35
Subject: Tips for preventing being cheated and general how to tips with dealing with cheaters
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Green Blow Fly wrote:frazzell is a control freak.
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Ah your flattery warms my heart. My kids would agree with you. Per the 9 year old my animal totem is a gorilla because: 1) I'm in charge (of the house); 2) I like to control things; 3) I get hot (hate the heat).
Yours truly surveying the yard to see if it needs to be cut
Its Frazzled though, thanks.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/24 16:34:56
Subject: Tips for preventing being cheated and general how to tips with dealing with cheaters
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Clousseau
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Uh, back on topic...?
I have no experience with cheaters in a tournament, as I've never played one. My sense is what many people have shared: make sure your opponent has a printed and legible army list, and has a copy for you to peruse. Know the rules well enough. Do not allow individuals to pick up hits, only misses. Be courteous, do not confront, but challenge where appropriate and bring the organizer/DM/rules boys over if necessary.
For playing at the store, where there's no money riding on it, take it easy. Ask yourself: is the person making a mistake? We all make mistakes, even vets. I've made a ton, and thankfully have never been accused of cheating. Ask what's going on and is that how the rule/unit/weapon works. The opponent may truly just be confused, and may appreciate the clarification (that just happened in a game of WM I played last weekend, and we're both 'vets'. If the person is cheating, remember this is a game of little dollies. Finish the game, shake hands, make a mental note not to play the individual again, and play other people.
If cheating, rules lawyering, whining, and other activities that drastically infringe on your ability to have fun (remember, why we spend money and time on these glorified line sinkers) is pervasive at the FLGS, it's time to find another group to play with.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/24 18:05:34
Subject: Tips for preventing being cheated and general how to tips with dealing with cheaters
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Frazzled wrote:Good to know John. The 13 year old read EG at my request and was enamored. Of course he's young and thinks he's Ender in real life...
Ender's Game is an exceptional book, easily accessible, and well-written. I can recommend it to anyone.
OTOH, if you're treating him like he's in Battle School, CPS may need to have a word with you...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/24 18:09:40
Subject: Tips for preventing being cheated and general how to tips with dealing with cheaters
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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 more like the whole Emperor Complex thing going on...
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/24 18:15:13
Subject: Tips for preventing being cheated and general how to tips with dealing with cheaters
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/26 03:37:12
Subject: Re:Tips for preventing being cheated and general how to tips with dealing with cheaters
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Thinking of Joining a Davinite Loge
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Green Blow Fly wrote: played a store where they broke a guy's thumbs for rolling loaded dice.
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I heard they tied him to a rail road tie and carried him to the outskirts of town... now he only plays in Jax, FL...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/26 03:51:53
Subject: Tips for preventing being cheated and general how to tips with dealing with cheaters
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back to the OP. My experience is most cheating is unintentional. Just be well versed on the rules.
I dont have trouble with cheating as I am intimidating physically, and my gaming group encompasses a former body builder and a semi-pro MMA fighter, so even if Im not intimidating enough, my posse will be.
Also be careful on who you chastise. My good gaming buddy had the side mirrors torn off is car as well as having"You owe me Drug money" Keyed on the hood of his car for having a cheater banned from a FLGS for cheating and stealing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/26 19:34:01
Subject: Re:Tips for preventing being cheated and general how to tips with dealing with cheaters
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JokerGod wrote:Green Blow Fly wrote: played a store where they broke a guy's thumbs for rolling loaded dice.
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Thats just sad and illegal. Just take his dice, getting overly worked up over a game just shows how lacking your real life is.
Yes... Because THEFT is neither, sad nor illegal.
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The Green Git wrote: I'd like to cross section them and see if they have TFG rings, but that's probably illegal.
Polonius wrote: You have to love when the most clearly biased person in the room is claiming to be objective.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/26 20:54:32
Subject: Re:Tips for preventing being cheated and general how to tips with dealing with cheaters
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Bounding Assault Marine
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I saw a lot of cheating while i lived in England.
Best one i saw was a game between a new kid, playing his firts game, and a "veteran".
In that game i got to see a game of 40k played over 17 rounds, marines with close order drill, chimeras with side hatches and many other strange things...
The red shirt even asked if they knew the rules...
I was thinking about telling him to stop cheating the new kid but since the staff didn't care i just left.
Cheating is sad, when you need to cheat in a game with painted miniatures you have a problem...
//Edge
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/26 21:12:31
Subject: Tips for preventing being cheated and general how to tips with dealing with cheaters
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Never feel worried about asking your opponent to explain why something is doing what it is doing. If he has four attacks, ask why it has four attacks. They should be able to explain it has say 2 basic, +1 for CC weapon and pistol and +1 charging say. If they are wielding a powerfist, well you know to challenge them.
A lot of players use 6" measuring bronzes. A tip I picked up from Greg Sparkes when he was over here was taking making a T-bone from sprues. If you feel your opponent is moving too far, then place it on the table.
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Hodge-Podge says: Run with the Devil, Shout Satan's Might. Deathtongue! Deathtongue! The Beast arises tonight!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/29 15:44:41
Subject: Re:Tips for preventing being cheated and general how to tips with dealing with cheaters
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Fixture of Dakka
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Thats a great idea for the T-Bone from a plastic sprue and you can offer it to them in a friendly way.
My problem is that you know I really dont care but its pretty obvious some people flat out cheat with a "ignorance" of the rules type attitude and that is usually the defense. Oh my bad I just didn't know etc.. was this way even though I have been playing the army for several months/ years.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/10/29 16:42:15
Subject: Re:Tips for preventing being cheated and general how to tips with dealing with cheaters
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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boyd wrote:
I heard they tied him to a rail road tie and carried him to the outskirts of town... now he only plays in Jax, FL...
I live and game in Jax... care to name names?
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