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Fango wrote:Points? who cares about points! You are talking SEVEN HUNDRED dollars retail for 34 suits! (not counting commander boxes)

Yeah but who buys retail these days.

Fango wrote:

Superscope wrote:The EMP burst should lower infantry BS by -1 instead of giving it +1. Wouldn't EMP totally feth up necrons?

But does it? I hope the +1 isnt true...why would an EMP boost infantry BS? That's BS.

Who knows? If I had to guess, the justification will be that the EMP blast supercharges the infantry's biological impulses, heightening their reflexes and synaptic responses.

Woo! I made up fluff!

Kanluwen wrote:

Fango wrote:

Superscope wrote:The EMP burst should lower infantry BS by -1 instead of giving it +1. Wouldn't EMP totally feth up necrons?

But does it? I hope the +1 isnt true...why would an EMP boost infantry BS? That's BS.

Who knows? If I had to guess, the justification will be that the EMP blast supercharges the infantry's biological impulses, heightening their reflexes and synaptic responses.

Woo! I made up fluff!

Maybe for nids, but marines can only move in power armour because it responds electronically so meh....

Because its not real life? <Insert techno babble reasoning here!>

Do they have the Lavithian or Capital Imperialis Mobile Fortress rules in it?

It would seen that they might start with the additions of some more of the big boys harken to the days of Epic.

Other then that this just looks like an excuse to spout off of the jervisified vision, yet again.

out and out, I'm not really impressed when you can easily just do something on your own that would be ten times as easy, such as getting rid of the structured army system, (LOL) and using the standard army list of a standing army, sucha s a Waagh, a Cadre, or and IG regiment.

- first mission would be a recon unit, then have some additional planetary defense forces with some guns. shooting down the attackers, then you fight it out with whatever makes it to the ground.

(WW2 airborne companies style)
How do the super heavys get to the planet without being wiped out? Are there some different drop ships we need to put the rhinos into?

How about some spore drops, Ork Roks,etc.?

I'm really not digging the "new " version of apocalypse.

It's more like the "new" version of city fight. Not Apocalypse. It's meant to be played without superheavies or datasheets.

The reason that the EMP increaes BS of infantry is simple:

Tau attacks IG. Uses EMP. All of those Leman Russ are now WORTHLESS with a BS of 1.

So to compensate the total and complete NERFING of the army, they increase the skill of the remaining defenders to compensate.

Think of it this way: With the EMP providing the penalty and NOT the infantry bonus, do you think your Guard army could beat a Tau force?

Mattlov wrote:Think of it this way: With the EMP providing the penalty and NOT the infantry bonus, do you think your Guard army could beat a Tau force?

Frankly, it really depends on what kind of vehicles you're running. If you're running Mech IG, it'll hurt all those multilasers and HB on your Chimera, it'd be a pain for Hydras, but all of the Hellhound variants are unaffected, and anything with a blast template (which is a good chunk of the IG arsenal) it will make it a little harder to hit, but since you're still hitting 1/3 of the time on your scatter dice anyway, all it's doing is increasing your scatter distance, which is a pain, but since you're talking about a difference of two inches on 3- and 5-inch templates, I don't think it will hurt them as much as you might think. Now, Mech SM? They'd be more significantly effected.

I don't think my mass of Dire avengers would mind if their wave serpent's targeters are blown, especially if they're about to bladestorm with a +1 to their BS... neither will my dragons, reapers, or pathfinders!

This is one of the few GW products I'm planning on buying after the price increase. If I fon't have Cities of death already, is there any point in me getting it now? Will this replace it all together or could both work?

Maybe it affects everyone globally, IE, ALL VEHICLES have BS1 for that turn, not just the defenders. Or maybe it gives the defenders BS1 and the attackers +1 BS to hit.

These rumors aren't very clear who or what is affected.

Mattlov wrote:Tau attacks IG. Uses EMP. All of those Leman Russ are now WORTHLESS with a BS of 1.

With the EMP providing the penalty and NOT the infantry bonus, do you think your Guard army could beat a Tau force?

IG 18 Demolishers & Russes & Basilisks plus bonus pie-throwers?

I dunno, but it wouldn't hurt to try...

I look forward to planetstrike simply for the additional variety of play it will offer; which face it, the sub par mission section in V5 badly needs help with...

Well doesn't this mean dark eldar are always on the attacking side? as well as that -1 leadership each turn they could really pose a threat to almost any army i might collect them soon then but it might be better to wait for their dex :( which could be another 10 years away

I'm liking Planetstrike more and more by the minute!

P.S.

Inquisitor build

Inquisitor
The Scourging
Storm Bolter

x2 Mystics

x2 Sages

X5 Heavy Bolter Servitors

1 Plasma Gun Servitor

I'm sorry, what deepstrikers???